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Squinty Applebottom posted:git it totally unintuitive and its ridiculous the lengths people go to convince you "oh you just don't *get* the brilliance of it" butfea its actually quite poo poo for actual human beings, much like linus's other creation. git's killer feature is that it's the only way to get code onto github
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git is the best source control IDE integration is the worst
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 00:00 |
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USSMICHELLEBACHMAN posted:git's killer feature is that it's the only way to get code onto github github is the only reason git won git cli sucks dick and u need to know the deep internals to understand what the gently caress goes on still better than tfvc
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 00:15 |
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they should have a source control system that is basically SVN, but good check in, check out, branch that actually branches, merge that works, a rename that tracks history. boom.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 00:18 |
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i just had to initialize a VM and install git and set up a blank repo and manage accounts for ppl to use it. it took me like half a day and it works but i can still safely say that i dont know what the gently caress
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 00:23 |
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born on a buy you posted:jira is as good as the effort you put into configuring it. if you have customized workflows/ticket types/etc for your process, ti's wonderful. if you use all the stock tools without any amount of thought to, "what do we actually need?" it's poo poo. the lotus notes defence
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 00:34 |
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Socracheese posted:i just had to initialize a VM and install git and set up a blank repo and manage accounts for ppl to use it. it took me like half a day and it works but i can still safely say that i dont know what the gently caress This is why people buy Stash and Github Emterprise
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 00:40 |
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Malcolm XML posted:github is the only reason git won commits are just monomorphisms in the category of commit DAGs, whats the problem
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 01:10 |
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some people made a vcs with a sound theoretic basis. last i checked merges didn't take exponential time very often at all, which was a great improvement
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 01:14 |
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:some people made a vcs with a sound theoretic basis. last i checked merges didn't take exponential time very often at all, which was a great improvement darcs. it worked very well indeed. and a normal human being could use it w/out blowing his foot off. the exponential merge thing, while hypothetically possible, turned out to be a bug in most practical examples. unfortunately it was very non-portable and kinda pokey using the ghc of its era
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 01:17 |
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~Coxy posted:they should have a source control system that is basically SVN, but good it's called svn fortunately pressure from git has kept svn from just being "cvs in a database" and things like renames aren't actually things anymore. unlike git cli which will only ever get worse
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 03:40 |
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chmods please posted:haha yeah let's just not branch and merge at work we use gerrit for code review which (a) will categorically reject merge commits and (b) needs a tool called 'repo' (great name y'all) to do the branch management, so i haven't done a 'git branch' or 'git merge' in months
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 04:36 |
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reviews are also one commit at a time so I'm doing lots and lots of 'git commit --amend'
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 04:37 |
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fritz posted:at work we use gerrit for code review which (a) will categorically reject merge commits and (b) needs a tool called 'repo' (great name y'all) to do the branch management, so i haven't done a 'git branch' or 'git merge' in months why
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 04:42 |
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fritz posted:reviews are also one commit at a time so I'm doing lots and lots of 'git commit --amend' just use stash and then commit when you're really done
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 04:42 |
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stash the atlassian tool is really great
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 04:46 |
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pl thread is doing windows chat, which made me think: one of the things im gonna be working on at newjob is a windows application that does some video capture and encoding using dedicated hardware (among other things). question is, does it sound like im gonna have to care + learn about windows internals? or will i likely be able to get away with just reading up on XAML and "windows app" development (yeah i know its a hella vague question)
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 11:10 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:stash the atlassian tool is really great yeah we use it. it's good.
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 12:29 |
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:darcs. it worked very well indeed. and a normal human being could use it w/out blowing his foot off. the exponential merge thing, while hypothetically possible, turned out to be a bug in most practical examples. when i tried to clone the darcs repo it took all day and didn't finish, if that wasn't due to an exponential merge then wtf
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 12:30 |
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Brain Candy posted:it's called svn I gotta admit I have not created a brand new SVN server in a while but is merging renamed files really fixed?
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 12:41 |
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:when i tried to clone the darcs repo it took all day and didn't finish, if that wasn't due to an exponential merge then wtf darcs' patch tehory is super cool but even they caved and went to using git style hashes. darcs has a p sweet cli ui though
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 12:42 |
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~Coxy posted:I gotta admit I have not created a brand new SVN server in a while but is merging renamed files really fixed? http://blogs.wandisco.com/2013/07/10/better-move-tracking-in-subversion-1-8/ recentish sure, but forever ago in computer terms i use svn & git at jorb. after updates, things are usually a little better for one of those. the other barfs SIGPIPE
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 13:07 |
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in Java does there exist a for-each loop which also gives the index? specifying bounds (or updating the index myself) is for chumps
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 13:23 |
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nope. there is a magic listIterator though
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 13:49 |
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AlsoD posted:in Java does there exist a for-each loop which also gives the index? specifying bounds (or updating the index myself) is for chumps perhaps you would prefer javascript. Array.prototype.map supplies the index as the 2nd argument to f
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:perhaps you would prefer javascript. Array.prototype.map supplies the index as the 2nd argument to f lots of languages have this construct. it came up in the thread a few months ago and i remember built-in functions in lisp, haskell, f#, ruby, python and js a few other langs (java8, c#) could cobble something together using zip iirc
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 14:23 |
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wait js's map is the one that gives the iterator silently so multi-arity functions silently give weird results right?
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 14:24 |
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why gerrit? i think it was just what the people here on day 1 were familiar with it's 'ok' as a code review thing, we got jenkins listening to it and doing builds, but couldn't figure out how to get jenkins to post reports back into it, i wish it was better integrated into our (subpar) bug tracker, and it has a few warts, but it's better than nothing
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 15:13 |
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fritz posted:why gerrit? i think it was just what the people here on day 1 were familiar with am i especially terrible for using https for git instead of ssh with the certificates and keys and all that jazz?
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coffeetable posted:pl thread is doing windows chat, which made me think: one of the things im gonna be working on at newjob is a windows application that does some video capture and encoding using dedicated hardware (among other things). question is, does it sound like im gonna have to care + learn about windows internals? or will i likely be able to get away with just reading up on XAML and "windows app" development if you're lucky its wpf/xaml so its litterrally the best ui development platform in the world. if not then its probably old rear end windows forms crap or maybe even some custom in house thing. (or even vb6 lol) but no matter what if you're doing video hardware stuff you're gonna probably need to know atleast a little bit about how that stuff works cause its mostly accessed the same way regardless of which windows app platform ur coming from. unless they hired you because you claimed you had that knowledge I wouldn't worry too much about learning it until you get their cause its some arcane poo poo.
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:when i tried to clone the darcs repo it took all day and didn't finish, if that wasn't due to an exponential merge then wtf probably an unfixed version. i would suggest patching and trying again, except git already won so now it doesn't matter that superior things lost.
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prefect posted:am i especially terrible for using https for git instead of ssh with the certificates and keys and all that jazz? no but isn't it a pita typing your password every time
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 17:33 |
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prefect posted:am i especially terrible for using https for git instead of ssh with the certificates and keys and all that jazz? git is incredibly slow over http. like 1% of the speed of ssh.
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:no but isn't it a pita typing your password every time credential.helper=winstore problem solved
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 18:01 |
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prefect posted:credential.helper=wincred
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 18:21 |
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actually use osxkeychain
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 18:21 |
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coffeetable posted:pl thread is doing windows chat, which made me think: one of the things im gonna be working on at newjob is a windows application that does some video capture and encoding using dedicated hardware (among other things). question is, does it sound like im gonna have to care + learn about windows internals? or will i likely be able to get away with just reading up on XAML and "windows app" development define "dedicated hardware" if it shows up as a video device, you use directshow or media foundation. you'll get to learn the fun quirks of COM but overall not terrible if it doesn't, or your job is to make it appear as a video device, you'll definitely need to learn stuff
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 18:37 |
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Malcolm XML posted:actually use osxkeychain this but with icloud keychain
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# ? Jun 11, 2014 20:07 |
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Shaggar posted:if you're lucky its wpf/xaml so its litterrally the best ui development platform in the world. if not then its probably old rear end windows forms crap or maybe even some custom in house thing. (or even vb6 lol) chmods please posted:define "dedicated hardware"
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coffeetable posted:im not starting till next month and the people there are reluctant to tell me much until ive signed an nda. what im doing right now is building a general reading list for myself so i'll at least have some context for the problem, and now that i know it exists, media foundation seems like exactly the kind of thing i should be looking at. thanks welcome to COM
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