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Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

precision posted:

You used to be able to rent episodes of Monty Python at Blockbuster. They had a TV section. That's how I watched The Prisoner.

Also why I totally think she was going to watch Flying Circus episodes because that's the only thing people just call "Monty Python" without an actual movie name.

For the people here saying they hate Monty Python, I just have to say it's a shame the internet decided to go full :regd08::regd08::regd08: and ruin otherwise hilarious movies like Holy Grail though. Like any sketch troop they had their misses but their hits were really drat funny. Terrible fans ruin everything.

Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Jun 23, 2017

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Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Well, two things:

"Monty Python" was a serviceable shorthand for The Holy Grail for casuals throughout my high school and college experience

And the practice of :regd08:'ing Python through overquoting and ceaseless references is something that predates the internet


Which I agree is a shame, blame me if you like; I do

hiddenmovement
Sep 29, 2011

"Most mornings I'll apologise in advance to my wife."
There's a Simpsons episode from like 96 where the nerds at homers college won't stop saying 'Ni'

Nude
Nov 16, 2014

I have no idea what I'm doing.

Data Graham posted:

Well, two things:

"Monty Python" was a serviceable shorthand for The Holy Grail for casuals throughout my high school and college experience

And the practice of :regd08:'ing Python through overquoting and ceaseless references is something that predates the internet


Which I agree is a shame, blame me if you like; I do

I too am to blame, along with my friends no regrets :v:.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


One of the DVD movies was A Knight's Tale, featuring Heath Ledger on the cover. Obviously to signal the coming drug overdose by Kim once she gets hooked on "the good stuff" Jimmy gives her.

vermin
Feb 28, 2017

Help, I've turned into a manifestation of mental disorders as viewed through an early 20th century lens sparked by the disparity between man and modern society and I can't get up

Blazing Ownager posted:

Terrible fans ruin everything.

That's a sentiment I never understand. Good things exist independent of the people who watch them. Monty Python is great and good but it really is niche humor that you either love, hate, or don't understand. Same with Kids in the Hall, MST3K, and Arrested Development. Since there's a distinct line in the sand with the people who watch it, the ones who love it are going to treat it like a secret club sacred experience and the ones who don't are going to think they're all twits.

Now I'm going to rant for five paragraphs about how Monty Python primed the early internet for the concept of internet memes. It all began with the creation of ARPANET and groundwork laid out by Frodo Lives...

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Finished the season and the thread. I didn't start reading posts until the season was almost over and It's been great reading the dead on accurate and way off predictions.

Random thoughts:

Chuck cashed the check I believe. I thought that was the whole point of showing off his house when Jimmy came to visit. like he'd bought a bunch of new stuff and remodeled. Or maybe it was just showing how much stuff was plugged in and how cleaned up it was? Jimmy seemed to look at everything like it was brand new though. I think it'd be hilarious if Chuck lived and his space blanket protected him from the fire. McKean absolutely crushed that role and deserves an Emmy nomination.

If I understand these things right, the electric meter ALWAYS spins. It shows it's connected. The final slow spinning that Chuck couldn't stop was probably the electricity running the meter itself. Also, I tied the Chuck suicide decision into the "new stuff/remodeling" thing he'd done with the money and then his realization that he'd torn it all down. Nice touch with Chuck reading a book right before his meltdown after what his final words to Jimmy were and the cold open with him reading a book to his brother. Hadn't seen that mentioned.

"Here Lies Chuck McGill; And Why Not?"

Took me forever to figure out the Nacho ibuprofen scheme. Originally, I was wondering how he planned to kill Hector with it but then realized he was simply removing Hector's meds from the picture. Very clever reveal with Gus noticing the pills too. Michael Mando has been phenomenal on this series too. I love the way he plays cocky, smooth confidence with an undercurrent of nervousness and uncertainty. He's pretty and level expression wise but somehow manages to emote.

Hamlin reminds me a lot of Anthony Michael Hall and I can never shake it.

Watching the nursing home stuff, I had a funny idea for a cross over show with the Sopranos gals from Green Grove all set in the same facility. That's actually not a bad idea for a show in general: a drama set in a retirement facility that delves into all the politics. use hosed up visiting members as supporting characters. Golden Girls meets House of Cards. Someone get on that.

Why did Gus call 9/11 so quickly? To feign allegiance?

Cool Blockbuster call back. Really took me back. I noticed too that in the foreground when Kim is picking out movies that "Darkness Falls" was featured prominently in the foreground. It was actually the only title I could make out. Nice touch.


Someone way back brought up (during the pill switch scene) "what are they doing counting thousands of dollars out in the open at a restaurant? What if the cops raid it?" but I got the impression that the place wasn't open yet and it was during prep hours. There was no waitstaff and the mex restaurant was a front anyway. If I remember right, someone was locking and unlocking the door even.

DId Jimmy ever replace the rigged Bingo balls? Things are gonna get hairy when the same numbers start coming up every time. Thanks to the dude who linked the story about the PA lottery rigging. i never knew about that.

Great loving show. I love good acting (and conversely loathe bad acting) and the level of it can make or break a movie or a show for me. Every single loving performer in this show is fantastic. More as it comes to me but that's enough for now.

WIFEY WATCHDOG
Jun 25, 2012

Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.
the one thing i don't get is that this thread thinks jimmy's gf is hot,

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

BiggerBoat posted:

Why did Gus call 9/11 so quickly? To feign allegiance?

Gus doesn't want a quick death for Hector, he wants to draw his life and suffering out as long as possible. If Gus wanted him dead, he could have just let Mike go ahead with the bullet at the end of season 2.

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

hiddenmovement posted:

There's a Simpsons episode from like 96 where the nerds at homers college won't stop saying 'Ni'

Homer went to college?!

vermin
Feb 28, 2017

Help, I've turned into a manifestation of mental disorders as viewed through an early 20th century lens sparked by the disparity between man and modern society and I can't get up

maskenfreiheit posted:

Homer went to college?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-LCw4CGIV8

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

BiggerBoat posted:

That's actually not a bad idea for a show in general: a drama set in a retirement facility that delves into all the politics. use hosed up visiting members as supporting characters. Golden Girls meets House of Cards. Someone get on that.

Thank you! I've been thinking this for years, and thought I was the only one. Either a drama or an Office-style comedy. I'd watch both.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

Thank you! I've been thinking this for years, and thought I was the only one. Either a drama or an Office-style comedy. I'd watch both.

I unironically would watch this.

Surprised it's never been done. And I meant to write "hosed up visiting family members as supporting characters". The more I think about it, the more i think it could work. "Golden Girls" proved there's a market for "old people doing old people stuff". I'm sure someone's thought of it before and you probably have TV execs talking about "not enough sexy characters" and poo poo but you could bring in well known actors who have aged too much to be in film but who people remember fondly and are still good actors. Also, you have the problem that one of the stars might die but that works itself right into the plot really.

Ornithology posted:

Do you guys also get super pissed off when there's a message saying no animals were hurt during the filming of the episode? Holy crap the sperging in this thread is on another level.

What if the animal was a protagonist?

BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Jun 23, 2017

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

BiggerBoat posted:

I unironically would watch this.

Surprised it's never been done. And I meant to write "hosed up visiting family members as supporting characters". The more I think about it, the more i think it could work. "Golden Girls" proved there's a market for "old people doing old people stuff". I'm sure someone's thought of it before and you probably have TV execs talking about "not enough sexy characters" and poo poo but you could bring in well known actors who have aged too much to be in film but who people remember fondly and are still good actors. Also, you have the problem that one of the stars might die but that works itself right into the plot really.

Make it an anthology series. New characters every season.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

The Ninth Layer posted:

I'd imagine Chuck's estate would go to his ex-wife.

No it wouldn't. Unless he had kids under the age of 18 and she were their guardian but pretty sure Chuck never had children.

More:

Good point that Jimmy wouldn't get Chuck's money since we KNOW he winds up skeeving and hustling for dough. Maybe Chuck didn't cash the check but he still obviously was worth a lot. I could totally see Chuck donating it to an EHS charity.

Or, I'll say it again: Chuck lived and his space blanket ironically is what saved him.

Maybe Jimmy becomes "Saul" by bringing a wrongful death suit agains HHM? Or the company that manufacturers lanterns?

How are the ratings for this season DOWN? this is one of the best shows on TV. What the gently caress do people watch? Dancing with the Stars and poo poo still?

beep by grandpa posted:

God. I just finished the finale and I have to share my experience.

I have a teenage little brother who I love and care about more then anything else on this earth (we lost both parents when he was just 14).

This might wind up in some goons.txt somewhere but I had to share my experience. God drat.

Sorry about your little brother dude. I'm an only child but you made me choke up a little bit.

Lastly, can everyone shut the gently caress about suicide hotlines and Skyler? The gently caress is wrong with you idiots?

ATP5G1
Jun 22, 2005
Fun Shoe

BiggerBoat posted:

Took me forever to figure out the Nacho ibuprofen scheme. Originally, I was wondering how he planned to kill Hector with it but then realized he was simply removing Hector's meds from the picture.

I also like to think that Nacho was aware that the ibuprofen didn't simply have a neutral effect on Hector's condition, it actually increases one's risk of heart attack and stroke. I could totally believe Nacho is the sort of person who would discover the perfect over-the-counter medication that would both be loving terrible for Hector and cause nobody to blink an eye if it showed up in a toxicology report because even today basically nobody knows that NSAIDs are deceptively easy to overdose on and have way more contraindications than you'd think.

SeXReX
Jan 9, 2009

I drink, mostly.
And get mad at people on the internet


:emptyquote:
I don't remember them actually saying they were divorced?

Those proceedings require you to sit in court rooms that have electricity and aren't on your orchestra's tour bus.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Nude posted:

I too am to blame, along with my friends no regrets :v:.

Surely society is to blame

Sulman
Apr 29, 2003

What did you do that for?

The Ninth Layer posted:

Gus doesn't want a quick death for Hector, he wants to draw his life and suffering out as long as possible. If Gus wanted him dead, he could have just let Mike go ahead with the bullet at the end of season 2.

Also I expect the Salamanca family has enough swing that there would be repercussions, and Gus would want it known he kept Hector alive.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

SeXReX posted:

I don't remember them actually saying they were divorced?

Those proceedings require you to sit in court rooms that have electricity and aren't on your orchestra's tour bus.

Didn't she mention she had some new boyfriend?

Sulman posted:

Also I expect the Salamanca family has enough swing that there would be repercussions, and Gus would want it known he kept Hector alive.

Yeah, kind of hard for them to say Gus wanted Hector dead when he can say he performed CPR until the paramedics arrived.

Spellman
May 31, 2011

Sulman posted:

Also I expect the Salamanca family has enough swing that there would be repercussions, and Gus would want it known he kept Hector alive.

It's humiliating for Hector, too. He does not respect the chicken man

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
I was looking for Gus's best scene from the season and found a video that added something a little extra.

ATP5G1
Jun 22, 2005
Fun Shoe

SeXReX posted:

Those proceedings require you to sit in court rooms that have electricity and aren't on your orchestra's tour bus.

We know they're separated and one of the podcasts confirmed they're divorced. His mental illness didn't start until after the divorce. When she came and visited Chuck for that dinner where he freaked out he was trying to hide it from her, and during the trial episode she said she hadn't known about it.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
Giancarlo Esposito is really good in everything I've seen him in. I hadn't seen this posted but i heard an interview he did on NPR a few days ago. Found it.


http://www.npr.org/2017/06/07/531840764/better-call-saul-actor-giancarlo-esposito-on-the-making-of-an-iconic-villain

edit: here's the audio

http://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/2017/06/07/531891009/fresh-air-for-june-7-2017

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

erm... actually thieves should be summarily executed

BiggerBoat posted:

If I understand these things right, the electric meter ALWAYS spins. It shows it's connected. The final slow spinning that Chuck couldn't stop was probably the electricity running the meter itself. Also, I tied the Chuck suicide decision into the "new stuff/remodeling" thing he'd done with the money and then his realization that he'd torn it all down. Nice touch with Chuck reading a book right before his meltdown after what his final words to Jimmy were and the cold open with him reading a book to his brother. Hadn't seen that mentioned.

No, the meter itself (if it's the mechanical type like the one in the show) draws no power when there's no load running through it. In fact, the meters have a magnetic mechanism inside that catches and locks the wheel if there's no current flow, specifically so that someone doesn't see the meter very slowly drifting when they have nothing turned on and then accuse the power company of ripping them off.

Here's a video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtModjpxfxM

There was definitely something running in Chuck's house -- unless the spinning wheel was just a hallucination, which I think it very well could be since the numbers themselves don't change from shot to shot.

SeXReX
Jan 9, 2009

I drink, mostly.
And get mad at people on the internet


:emptyquote:
Ok I don't listen to the podcast, I couldn't recall actual mention of the d word.

my dad was living somewhere else banging floozies for a long time before the papers were finalized so ive got a pretty skewed personal experience on the difference between separated and divorced.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
We'll probably never get any conclusion to that if Chuck died and if the house burned down. Unless the fire inspector looks at his power box and sees there's some wire that's bypassing the breakers.

Cromulent
Dec 22, 2002

People are under a lot of stress, Bradley.

BiggerBoat posted:

Random thoughts:

Chuck cashed the check I believe. I thought that was the whole point of showing off his house when Jimmy came to visit. like he'd bought a bunch of new stuff and remodeled. Or maybe it was just showing how much stuff was plugged in and how cleaned up it was? Jimmy seemed to look at everything like it was brand new though.
He had all that stuff when Howard came to visit too. He got everything hooked up when he started therapy, it wasn't just for appearances (although him using the handmixer when Howard comes back again is definitely playing it up a bit). Jimmy is just shocked at everything being hooked up, not that it's new or remodeled.

Even right before Chuck's final freakout, he has a working lamp next to his bed. He was legitimately trying to get better.

Spellman
May 31, 2011

Would there be a fire when he smashed it if it wasn't drawing a current?

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Cojawfee posted:

We'll probably never get any conclusion to that if Chuck died and if the house burned down. Unless the fire inspector looks at his power box and sees there's some wire that's bypassing the breakers.

I hope one of his neighbors was being a cheap prick and stealing his electricty.

If it's like the LA DWP they might have just left the meter rolling even though it wasn't charging anything because they are one of the most corrupt, lovely and drat near criminal public service organizations to exist. Seriously look up complaints about them and you will a shocking number (tens of thousands) of complaints where they decide to retroactively surge-price you for things that happened 1-2 years ago, after you have no proof at all of your power usage for that time, to the tune of several thousand dollars.

Cnut the Great
Mar 30, 2014

Sagebrush posted:

There was definitely something running in Chuck's house -- unless the spinning wheel was just a hallucination, which I think it very well could be since the numbers themselves don't change from shot to shot.

If it was a small current then it might take a while for the number to change, no?

Anyway, I don't think it matters what was drawing current and I seriously doubt we'll ever find out.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Cnut the Great posted:

Anyway, I don't think it matters what was drawing current and I seriously doubt we'll ever find out.

It matters! Now give me an axe, I need to start hacking this thread apart until I get an answer!

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
It certainly doesn't matter what was drawing current, but I do think it matters if there was a non-explicit "showing something that isn't really there" shot, if only for precedent's sake.

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

It's pretty obvious that a young Pinkman was hijacking power from Chuck's place and running a cable to his aunt's house, which is down the block, so he could run his hydro set-up. She had cancer at the time, before she died, of cancer.

Do none of you actually watch the television when you have it on?

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005

BiggerBoat posted:

How are the ratings for this season DOWN? this is one of the best shows on TV. What the gently caress do people watch? Dancing with the Stars and poo poo still?

^^^^^lol

My parents leave the TV on channel 5 all night for some mentally invigorating Celebrity Apprentice, American Ninja Warrior, The Voice, etc etc. Basically, yeah.

I don't know how to get them to give Breaking Bad a shot; I have tried. They'll watch The Blacklist, which uh, counts for something I guess. I don't really get it. Old people and TV, man. (They're not that old TBH, posters here have copped to being the same age.)

RedSpider
May 12, 2017

Who else is happy that miserable gently caress Chuck is going to be absent next season in favor of more interesting characters? The Nacho/Gus relationship is going to be nothing less than superb, for starters.

I'm also curious as to the future of Howard's character. What is there left for him to do? This show has had great cliffhangers like this so far.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.

Die Sexmonster! posted:

^^^^^lol

My parents leave the TV on channel 5 all night for some mentally invigorating Celebrity Apprentice, American Ninja Warrior, The Voice, etc etc. Basically, yeah.

I don't know how to get them to give Breaking Bad a shot; I have tried. They'll watch The Blacklist, which uh, counts for something I guess. I don't really get it. Old people and TV, man. (They're not that old TBH, posters here have copped to being the same age.)

I would unironically rather watch The Voice and American Ninja Warrior than Blacklist and I don't care for either of those shows.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


The cameras Jimmy had Mike install were drawing power

maskenfreiheit
Dec 30, 2004

Fried Watermelon posted:

The cameras Jimmy had Mike install were drawing power

i wonder how much money a 1080p suicide video goes for

(assuming the smoke doesn't obscure)

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Secret Agent X23
May 11, 2005

Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore.

RedSpider posted:

Who else is happy that miserable gently caress Chuck is going to be absent next season in favor of more interesting characters? The Nacho/Gus relationship is going to be nothing less than superb, for starters.

I'm also curious as to the future of Howard's character. What is there left for him to do? This show has had great cliffhangers like this so far.

I'm not sure I'd want to call out the Chuck character as not being interesting enough, but I do think that after his breakdown at the hearing, the only left to do with him is let his story arc go down into a crash landing. Continuing the conflict between the brothers at this point would be, more likely than not, creating the feeling of beating a dead horse. Even if they can find a way to avoid beating that horse, there's still probably more interesting territory in other places.

(Ha ha, jokes's on me--it'll turn out that Chuck's not dead, and he'll come back next season as a comic-book supervillain determined to bring down not only Jimmy and HHM but the New Mexico Bar Association, Kim, and Mesa Verde as well, and he'll have a futuristic, well-beyond-Batcave-like headquarters in his fireproof basement, financed with HHM buyout money. Maybe he'll even form a strategic alliance with Gus.)

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