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I wonder what some of the specific answers in the 70+ bracket were. "She's a thousand; Hot Springs is a Lazarus pit."
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Spun Dog posted:Too early for this (hilarious) mental image. And it's SNOWMACHINE, scrub. Snow machines are what they use to bulk up ski slopes during a dry season.
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Mar 5, 2014 01:10
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The Entire Universe posted:Snow machines are what they use to bulk up ski slopes during a dry season. Those are snow guns or snow makers, and the slopes are then groomed by sno Even by our usual standards, this is an odd derail.
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Mar 5, 2014 01:17
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Those are snow guns or snow makers, and the slopes are then groomed by sno Now, when I drive my snocatwmachine to the store, what kind of cheap beer is best?
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Mar 5, 2014 01:26
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Chantilly Say posted:Now, when I drive my snocatwmachine to the store, what kind of cheap beer is best? Icehouse.
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Mar 5, 2014 01:35
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Icemobile. Is not knowing the age of hillary clinton really a thing? Good lord. Interesting hypothetical though, the youngest age for potus is constitutionally mandated, but whats the oldest candidate you'd personally vote for? McCain was ancient but he lost, and with older presidents you don't get that soul sucky age-before-your-eyes spectacle we've had with our last two presidents. i'd say mid sixties, at the highest, personally.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Interesting hypothetical though, the youngest age for potus is constitutionally mandated, but whats the oldest candidate you'd personally vote for? McCain was ancient but he lost, and with older presidents you don't get that soul sucky age-before-your-eyes spectacle we've had with our last two presidents. i'd say mid sixties, at the highest, personally. I don't know about picking an absolute maximum, it would depend on the candidate. Women do tend to live longer than men, though... Now I'm thinking about what it would be like to have a president die in office of natural causes. It used to be pretty common, but I don't know how well people would handle it now.
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Mar 5, 2014 03:14
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Icemobile. I'll just leave these here.
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You know who's a lot like Hitler? According to Hillary, Putin is.quote:“She compared issuing Russian passports to Ukrainians with ties to Russia with early actions by Nazi Germany before Hitler began invading neighboring countries,” Saltzgaver said. “She said, however, that while that makes people nervous, there is no indication that Putin is as irrational as the instigator of World War II.” She also basically paints Kerry as Chamberlain in this comparison.
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Mar 5, 2014 03:17
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Nth Doctor posted:I'll just leave these here. I'm not super happy with the prospect of voting for hillary in the first place, and i admitted that John McCain was exceedingly old when he ran.
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Mar 5, 2014 03:18
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I'm not super happy with the prospect of voting for hillary in the first place, and i admitted that John McCain was exceedingly old when he ran. Even though she's going to be a similar age to what McCain was in 2008, McCain just seemed older. There was stuff like refusing to rule out use of force against Spain, or chanting "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran."
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Plus there was that whole thing about McCain having been tortured for six years, having a long list of potential medical issues, and having picked Sarah Palin as his VP.
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Mar 5, 2014 03:38
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Skwirl posted:Even though she's going to be a similar age to what McCain was in 2008, McCain just seemed older. There was stuff like refusing to rule out use of force against Spain, or chanting "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran." His injuries made him seem older, because he moved so slowly. Mitt Romney was only 7 years younger than McCain was when he ran, it looked like a difference of 30 years.
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Mar 5, 2014 03:41
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Joementum posted:You know who's a lot like Hitler? According to Hillary, Putin is. It's not a huge stretch to think that putin is cribbing out of Hitler's playbook. Bring a country back to the world stage after a catastrophic event, blame problems on a minority and encourage violence against said minority, be extremely popular to idiots, invade a country on the pretext that it's citizens are ethnically yours, host the olympics...
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Mar 5, 2014 03:55
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:His injuries made him seem older, because he moved so slowly. Mitt Romney was only 7 years younger than McCain was when he ran, it looked like a difference of 30 years.
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Mar 5, 2014 03:57
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Slate Action posted:Plus there was that whole thing about McCain having been tortured for six years, having a long list of potential medical issues, and having picked Sarah Palin as his VP. This, I know was a pretty big deal to a few Obamacans that I knew. If he'd been younger or she'd been less crazy they might not have voted for big O. (They went back to the GOP on Romney though so, eh, gently caress 'em)
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Mar 5, 2014 06:17
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Icemobile. How old is Bernie Sanders? In his seventies, right? Then the oldest president I'd be okay with would be in their seventies.
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Mar 5, 2014 06:57
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Age isn't a big factor for me, unless they have bad health or show signs of age-related mental issues. Unless you pick someone like Sarah Palin - not that I would have voted for McCain, but his age plus Palin as VP was an absolutely terrifying idea. Pick a decent VP and have decent mental health and I really don't care how old they are if they're a good president.
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Mar 5, 2014 19:25
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McCain also would have been the oldest person ever elected to the Presidency for a first term, Hillary would still be younger than Reagan (and likely in considerably better health than either man).
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Mar 5, 2014 20:10
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DynamicSloth posted:McCain also would have been the oldest person ever elected to the Presidency for a first term, Hillary would still be younger than Reagan (and likely in considerably better health than either man). Also I'm pretty sure Hillary doesn't have Alzheimer's.
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Mar 5, 2014 20:28
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I don't really like Hillary, but the idea of Republicans having to deal with going from a black potus to a woman potus is just to great of a opportunity to pass up.
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Mar 5, 2014 20:40
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Gygaxian posted:How old is Bernie Sanders? In his seventies, right? Then the oldest president I'd be okay with would be in their seventies. This is the right answer.
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Mar 5, 2014 20:40
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Winkie01 posted:I don't really like Hillary, but the idea of Republicans having to deal with going from a black potus to a woman potus is just to great of a opportunity to pass up. I honestly think they'll take it a lot better. Plus, sadly, most of the really fun ones are getting too up there in age to do much anymore.
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OneTwentySix posted:Age isn't a big factor for me, unless they have bad health or show signs of age-related mental issues. Unless you pick someone like Sarah Palin - not that I would have voted for McCain, but his age plus Palin as VP was an absolutely terrifying idea. Pick a decent VP and have decent mental health and I really don't care how old they are if they're a good president. Age is actually a significant issue for me because older politicians seem to have a predilection for 1) taking and defending horrible "conventional" positions, i.e., marijuana has to stay illegal, and 2) looking at today's problems through the lens of yesterday's battles, i.e., whining about how the Ukraine debacle is a "new cold war". Admittedly though that's just a rule of thumb not something I'm going to hold against an individual politician if they have the right positions and say and do the right things. My larger issue with Hillary is simply that she's a Clinton and I oppose political dynasties. Again, if nothing else, today's problems are not the problems of the 1990's.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Age is actually a significant issue for me because older politicians seem to have a predilection for 1) taking and defending horrible "conventional" positions, i.e., marijuana has to stay illegal, and 2) looking at today's problems through the lens of yesterday's battles, i.e., whining about how the Ukraine debacle is a "new cold war". Admittedly though that's just a rule of thumb not something I'm going to hold against an individual politician if they have the right positions and say and do the right things. Republicans are saying it's a new Cold War because they deem it politically beneficial to tack as hard right as possible whenever a foreign policy issue that they have no responsibility over comes up, and to characterize the issue in a way that makes sense for the old white people constituency. Hence we should be landing troops and settling it all right now, especially when we are in danger of finally having a peacetime-level force 20+ years after the Cold War ended.
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I do remember the Atlantic making a good point that Clinton's 'age' is a negative because she's been in politics for so long and she's going to have older campaign staff more prone to 'Serious Ideas'. I don't know if it was Matt O'Brien (ergo less likely to be concern troll) or Conor Friersdorf (more likely).
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Is Hillary Clinton's speech on Putin and the Ukraine a calculated attempt to position herself as more hawkish than the Obama administration, or is it just spontaneous comments? I don't think the right-wing Hillary-haters are going to be mollified by anything that she says and does, but I suppose some independents might be happy to know she isn't purely a member of Team Obama, which will be a much harder case for Biden to make.
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Barudak posted:I honestly think they'll take it a lot better. It's Hillary Clinton. They're going to go completely apoplectic the second she forms an exploratory committee. Probably sooner.
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Mar 6, 2014 02:39
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Do Americans really care about the qualifications of the president? What qualifications did Reagan have? I know Obama was criticized for his lack of experience but it didn't seem to matter in the end. Seems like all you need is at least an ounce of charisma and a catchphrase and you have a good chance. That's why I thought Christie would be next.
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Disco De Soto posted:Do Americans really care about the qualifications of the president? What qualifications did Reagan have? . Obama had an exceptional political transcendence, most Presidents who weren't already a well known national commodity (i.e. VP) have been governors of large populous states (where they can fund-raise like crazy) .
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Disco De Soto posted:What qualifications did Reagan have? 2 term Governor of California, former Union leader, and past runner up for the nomination who had been doing political poo poo since at least the 40s. Sure it's fun to laugh that the actor became President, but he did have a perfectly reasonable resume.
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Mar 6, 2014 14:21
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Gyges posted:2 term Governor of California, former Union leader, and past runner up for the nomination who had been doing political poo poo since at least the 40s. Sure it's fun to laugh that the actor became President, but he did have a perfectly reasonable resume. Yeah that and he shot up a bunch of students at Berkeley. Not a lot of folks can put "Quelled public dissent with military force" on their resume.
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Kaal posted:Yeah that and he shot up a bunch of students at Berkeley. Not a lot of folks can put "Quelled public dissent with military force" on their resume. To be fair, his heart and his best intentions told him it's perfectly fine to kill students, but the facts and the evidence were ignored so no one cared about it.
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glowing-fish posted:Is Hillary Clinton's speech on Putin and the Ukraine a calculated attempt to position herself as more hawkish than the Obama administration, or is it just spontaneous comments? Attempting to appeal to independents borders on completely useless for Clinton, even her own advisers must know that "Independent" in the vast majority of cases just means "The GOP are too liberal to call themselves the tea party so I'm not one of those RINO pricks." All she needs to do is focus on getting out the vote, the numbers are already on her side. If anything any comments on Ukraine would be to "toughen" her image because the certain line of attack on her in a general will be a thinly veiled focus on claiming that a bleeding heart woman doesn't have the stones to make manly man decisions so vote Republican. Spaceman Future! fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Mar 6, 2014 |
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Bernie Sanders "I Am Prepared to Run for President of the United States" http://www.thenation.com/blog/178717/bernie-sanders-i-am-prepared-run-president-united-states 
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A Winner is Jew posted:To be fair, his heart and his best intentions told him it's perfectly fine to kill students, but the facts and the evidence were ignored so no one cared about it. To this day, it ASTOUNDS me that no one critically analyzed that loving sentence of his speech. "Gee, the rear end in a top hat actually DID sell arms for hostages. Maybe we should look into this." Did ANYONE loving do that?
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Winkie01 posted:Bernie Sanders "I Am Prepared to Run for President of the United States" The important part here is that he says he might run as a Democrat (or a Republican  ). It's the first interview in which he's said that.
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I'll cry such sweet loving tears if Bernie somehow ends up on a primary stage with Ted Cruz. I'll then drink my own tears.
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Joementum posted:The important part here is that he says he might run as a Democrat (or a Republican Yeah, running as independent seems like a terrible idea because he'll just split the base. If he runs in a primary, he immediately turns the discussion left which is good. He won't win, but turning the conversation leftward might improve politics as a whole.
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:Yeah, running as independent seems like a terrible idea because he'll just split the base. He'd need to qualify for the ballot to stand any danger of splitting the base and that is extremely difficult to do. For example, Jill Stein (Green) was only on the ballot in 36 states and DC in 2012. The Libertarians even missed a couple states last cycle. There's also the problem that he'd be excluded from all the primary debates as a third party candidate and almost certainly the general election debates as well. He'd show up on MSNBC once a week or so, which is basically his current media footprint. He'd get more national coverage from literally setting a pile of money on fire than the figurative approach of a third party Presidential campaign.
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