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Doctor Zero posted:I got my shipping notice and it says it will be here in 11 days and that’s it’s coming express. Mine took 9 days, you would think it would take less than 48 hours to get from Shanghai to anywhere in the world.
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I ordered within 15 minutes after the event ending and mine showed up yesterday.
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Nov 12, 2021 02:28
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Currently shipping is screwed up for a whole heap of things because of the huge backlogs at any number of ports.
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Lemon King posted:AFAIK the only thread of hope for people that want an Apple Game Console / Apple Gaming in general is if this rumor/leak actually comes to fruition in some form: https://www.tomsguide.com/opinion/apple-leak-claims-a-nintendo-switch-style-games-console-is-coming-but-i-dont-believe-it The problem with that rumour is they already have a portable mobile gaming system - the iPhone. quote:Apple’s App Store revenue is made up almost entirely of users playing games, according to a court ruling released Friday that concluded Epic Games failed to prove Apple is a monopolist. The appstore had $65B in revenue in 2020. It's not the games we want, but in terms of profit, gaming is wildly successful for them.
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Nov 12, 2021 03:36
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:The problem with that rumour is they already have a portable mobile gaming system - the iPhone. Yeah it’s hilarious when people say ‘why doesn’t Apple care about gaming?’ They do. A lot. They care about the games that make money. Which, as someone who likes good games, can be disappointing to be sure. Remember that the King (Candy Crush) part of Activision Blizzard King makes way more money than the Blizzard part.
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Yeah, Apple makes more money on video games than every other 'mainstream' AAA studio or publisher combined and they haven't made a single game.
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Nov 12, 2021 05:45
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I understand what you're saying but I'd struggle to call Apple's biggest money makers "video games" and the one sincere effort Apple has seemed to put getting into the actual gaming space, Apple Arcade, has largely fallen flat. The point remains though that Apple doesn't care about games because they don't have to care about games.
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If apple wants to do mobile gaming we got the iPad Mini that *rules* but... Doesn't seem to have the right gaming content yet haha
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American McGay posted:I understand what you're saying but I'd struggle to call Apple's biggest money makers "video games" and the one sincere effort Apple has seemed to put getting into the actual gaming space, Apple Arcade, has largely fallen flat. “only games with guns in them are video games”
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Ok Comboomer posted:“only games with guns in them are video games”
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American McGay posted:Yes that's what my post said. Thank you for your great contribution. well why don’t you explain why “Apple’s biggest money makers” aren’t real video games then?
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Nov 12, 2021 06:03
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Just glance at a list of the top grossing mobile games. Not sure why you feel the need to get defensive about it. You can't compare Candy Clash Royale to something like Super Mario Odyssey. They don't exist in the same sphere. I'm not saying one of them is more worthy of your time and money than the other, just don't act like they're the same thing.
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Nov 12, 2021 06:06
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Yeah. The only thing preventing Macs & iPads from being a top tier gaming platforms is biz dev decisions. The hardware is plenty powerful, and so was the Intel stuff. It’s a matter of them throwing money at game makers the way Epic, Xbox, PlayStation do. They don’t break out subscriber numbers for Arcade and the offerings there are idiosyncratic and suggest to me that they’re still figuring themselves out/that it’s low priority compared to the TV+ play.
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Nov 12, 2021 06:08
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they are the same thing (video games)
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well why not posted:they are the same thing (video games)
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American McGay posted:Just glance at a list of the top grossing mobile games. Not sure why you feel the need to get defensive about it. You can't compare Candy Clash Royale to something like Super Mario Odyssey. They don't exist in the same sphere. I'm not saying one of them is more worthy of your time and money than the other, just don't act like they're the same thing. the first computer games I ever played in earnest were Mercer Meyer’s Little Monster and Richard Scarry’s Busytown, pieces of software where mainly you click around and drag a bunch of stuff from one place to another and solve basic puzzles and animations happen. Are those less “game” than Wolfenstein? Outside of the monetization and microtransaction garbage, your Clash Royales/etc aren’t structurally or conceptually all that different from something like Plants vs Zombies. Is that not a game? Is Peggle not a loving game? What about solitaire or Shanghai mahjong or goddamn Cookie Clicker? Is the pinball app that used to ship on Windows not a game? What about Minesweeper?
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I'd say that, in the context of this thread, many people asking about new MX chipped Macs being viable gaming machines are in fact, not talking about those types of games, no.
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When people ask if Macs have a future as platforms for gaming they are not asking if they’ll run Chess, Peggle, Solitaire, Minesweeper even though those are real games. They are asking about Stardew Valley, Total War, Death Stranding, Monster Hunter and so on. This conversation isn’t some moral argument about who is a “real gamer.” Calm down.
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Nov 12, 2021 06:19
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American McGay posted:Just glance at a list of the top grossing mobile games. Not sure why you feel the need to get defensive about it. You can't compare Candy Clash Royale to something like Super Mario Odyssey. They don't exist in the same sphere. I'm not saying one of them is more worthy of your time and money than the other, just don't act like they're the same thing. just own the thing you originally said and stop moving the goalposts
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Nov 12, 2021 06:33
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"Mobile games are not the kinds of games people are thinking of when they are asking if a Mac is good for gaming" is a very different take thanAmerican McGay posted:I understand what you're saying but I'd struggle to call Apple's biggest money makers "video games"
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Nov 12, 2021 06:41
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When people are trying to talk Game of Thrones vs Mad Men vs the Sopranos vs Seinfeld, no one that’s not an advertising executive gives a poo poo that the Super Bowl out-viewered all of them combined.
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American McGay posted:Just glance at a list of the top grossing mobile games. Not sure why you feel the need to get defensive about it. You can't compare Candy Clash Royale to something like Super Mario Odyssey. They don't exist in the same sphere. I'm not saying one of them is more worthy of your time and money than the other, just don't act like they're the same thing. The #1 top grossing mobile game in this country is PUBG dude. I think you might have a challenge convincing me that PUBG is not a video game.
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chaosbreather posted:The #1 top grossing mobile game in this country is PUBG dude. I think you might have a challenge convincing me that PUBG is not a video game. it’s obviously not, dude, and neither are CoD, Among Us, Minecraft, or Roblox
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Video games are so boring compared to doing CAD. When are the good CAD programs going to port to macOS/ARM, is what I want to know. SW/MasterCAM, Catia, the program formally known as ProE.
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spending 3000 dollars to play peggle and laughing at the console paeons
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Quantum of Phallus posted:spending 3000 dollars to play peggle and laughing at the console paeons that’s not the argument anybody’s having just the argument y’all wish we were having but go off, king
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Ok Coboomrr
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Quantum of Phallus posted:spending 3000 dollars to play peggle and laughing at the console paeons this but not ironically. flexing on the poors is the most important part of buying the m1 max. For anyone interested, here are some benchmarks I've done so far between my two 14" machines. If you can think of anything else you'd like me to test let me know. Geekbench 5 (M1 Pro 10C/16C) 1764 Single-Core Score 12382 Multi-Core Score Geekbench 5 (M1 Pro 10C/16C) (Low Power Mode) 1326 Single-Core Score 6733 Multi-Core Score Geekbench 5 (M1 MacBook Air) 1710 Single-Core Score 7440 Multi-Core Score Cinebench (10C/16C vs 10C/24C) No difference between the two. BlackMagic SSD Speed Test (10C/16C vs 10C/24C both with 1TB SSD) ~5400 MB/s Read/Write on both - No difference Black magic disk external SSD (ExFat - Intel Certified Thunderbolt 3 cable) 905 MB/s write 550 MB/s Read Black magic disk external SSD (ExFat - Maxonar USB4 Cable) 900 MB/s write 550 MB/s Read Black magic disk external SSD (ExFat - USB-C Hub + USB3 Type A to USB-C cable) 423 MB/s write 366 MB/s Read Black magic disk external SSD (ExFat - USB-C 3.1 cable included with nvme enclosure) 894 MB/s write 555 MB/s Read Battery: 3 Hours of Chrome Browsing - Full Brightness, Auto Brightness turned off 24C: 36% battery remaining 16C: 52% battery remaining World of Warcraft FPS (Quality @ 10/10, native res 14” 3024x1964) M1 Max 24 Core - 75 FPS M1 Pro 16 Core - 45 FPS 20.66GB file transfer over Wifi 6 from NAS to Local SSD 16C: 4m 36s (598.8Mbit) 24C: 4m 36s (598.8Mbit) Planned Tests: Web browsing battery test at half brightness level USB-C Network Adapter speed tests Blender Benchmarks Handbrake h265/h264 Number of Plex 4k transcodes Number of Plex 1080p transcodes Brain Issues fucked around with this message at 11:19 on Nov 12, 2021 |
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Quantum of Phallus posted:spending 3000 dollars to play peggle and laughing at the console paeons Data Graham posted:Then it [Halo] came out and oh it's just another Doom shooter these two quotes are so Stereotypical Mac User/Gamer lol silence_kit fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Nov 12, 2021 |
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I mean, fair, but as I tried to explain (and should have explained better at the start) my issue with Halo was not that it wasn't technically impressive, it was that I had seen iterations on "first person shooter" every year since Wolfenstein and I was getting bored of it. The 1999 MacWorld keynote promised something that looked way more interesting and creative than yet another look-through-gun-sights-and-shoot-things-that-jump-out-at-you-in-a-hallway-fest. This is a "my personal preferences and expectations" thing, not a "games in general" thing. For my own part, that bait-and-switch plus the Microsoft buyout that caused it to come out two years later than promised and deprived the Mac of what could have been a game-changing flagship platform-exclusive title were basically what made Halo the last video game I cared about, and all your Skyrims and Dark Scrolls are all just hearsay to me at this point
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Data Graham posted:I mean, fair, but as I tried to explain (and should have explained better at the start) my issue with Halo was not that it wasn't technically impressive, it was that I had seen iterations on "first person shooter" every year since Wolfenstein and I was getting bored of it. The 1999 MacWorld keynote promised something that looked way more interesting and creative than yet another look-through-gun-sights-and-shoot-things-that-jump-out-at-you-in-a-hallway-fest. This is a "my personal preferences and expectations" thing, not a "games in general" thing. the high water mark of Mac gaming is MYST, maybe Wolfenstein 3D/DOOM
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DOOM isn't a great example; maybe better would be Quake III Arena where every iMac had a 3D accelerator whereas many whitebox PCs couldn't run it. (In an alternate universe the Mac port of HL1 isn't cancelled by Sierra and CounterStrike beta gains a majority Macintosh playerbase from all the school labs and home PCs that are iMacs.)
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The Grand Central Fruit Stand has **NO** 16-inch M1 Pros in stock and only 8 core 14-inchers. The nice Fruit Lady said I would have better luck 'online'  rather than sending me on a ragtag wandering quest across the NYC hellscapeAnother guy suggested I try NJ or Staten Island..
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Lol. Getting from one Apple Store to another in Manhattan is a curse, it's like they're at some algorithmically determined furthest distance/annoyance from each other via transit the subway lagrange points
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Binary Badger posted:The Grand Central Fruit Stand has **NO** 16-inch M1 Pros in stock and only 8 core 14-inchers. The North Jersey Microcenter had a bunch in stock the other day, fwiw
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Binary Badger posted:The Grand Central Fruit Stand has **NO** 16-inch M1 Pros in stock and only 8 core 14-inchers. You might be interesting in this https://github.com/worthbak/apple-store-inventory-checker .
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Binary Badger posted:The Grand Central Fruit Stand has **NO** 16-inch M1 Pros in stock and only 8 core 14-inchers. maybe call some of the third party places like mikey's hookup or mike's tech shop, or even b&h/adorama? i know tekserve (RIP) would often have a half decent stock of macs that were scarce at the fruit stand.
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Walked has a good idea, I'll call the Yonkers Micro Center and maybe the Fruit Stand in Whitey Plains..
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“What’s a video game” chat is the new version of “what’s a computer” that Apple was going for You can play video games on anything including calculators, but you can’t play certain games on Macs (and you can’t play certain games on PCs), and people want to be able to play their PC games on Mac. The power of Apple silicon inspired hope in a lot of people hoping to see macs be more natively supported by developers of certain video games but we don’t see that happening. Beyond that, the performance on macs is almost always just a little bit worse than on PC because they rely on emulation and wrappers and stuff, but when they’re natively supported (like WoW) they run beautifully. I hope that I get native support for my favorite video games on MacOS and more robust Rosetta-esque compatibility so I never have to use windows again I want to play natively supported total war warhammer, FF14, all the FF pixel remasters, Stellaris, Factorio, rimworld, and Genshin impact. Maybe one day~ jokes fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Nov 12, 2021 |
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Apple doesn't want to promote "serious gaming" because it's toxic, it all 12 year old screaming the n-word and swatting each other to death. Also the code quality is crap, hmm yes 50GB day one patches and also you need the latest windows to get this directx point release, don't forget the 800MB gameready driver. Apple would rather cater to casual gamers.
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