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MegaCharger posted:When are the hokages gonna show up? I'm kind of bored of Naruto repeatedly protecting everyone. Bisse fucked around with this message at 20:58 on May 8, 2013 |
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MegaCharger posted:When are the hokages gonna show up? I'm kind of bored of Naruto repeatedly protecting everyone. They're protecting him now, but definitely want some more Hokage action.
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May 8, 2013 20:54
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MegaCharger posted:When are the hokages gonna show up? I'm kind of bored of Naruto repeatedly protecting everyone. Now I know what Milhouse felt during Poochie's debut 
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May 8, 2013 21:01
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|Ziggy| posted:They're protecting him now, but definitely want some more Hokage action. Well, expect that to change again soon given that Minato is probably going to give him the other half of the 9-tails chakra in the next chapter or two.
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May 8, 2013 21:10
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tsob posted:Well, expect that to change again soon given that Minato is probably going to give him the other half of the 9-tails chakra in the next chapter or two. Am I the only one who kind of hopes Kurama becomes an rear end in a top hat again once he gets the other half of his chakra back?
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May 8, 2013 21:22
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I don't know if it's because I always end up reading the Mangastream version second, but their translation is really beginning to bother me with their unnecessary thesaurus words. poo poo like last time's "I'M ON CLOUD NINE" and all these euphemisms sound really dumb. Echoing everyone else here about how making Rin the carrier for a tailed beast was a dumb plot point. Yes, every nation knew that jinchuuriki are unstable, but I thought every nation was fighting to get them because it's like stockpiling nuclear arsenal. That's really stupid of the Mist Nation to assume the Fire Nation wouldn't be able to contain its power or subdue the jinchuuriki. If Konoha was able to contain the 9-tails, what made them think the 3-tails would succeed?
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May 8, 2013 23:40
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Willsun posted:I don't know if it's because I always end up reading the Mangastream version second, but their translation is really beginning to bother me with their unnecessary thesaurus words. poo poo like last time's "I'M ON CLOUD NINE" and all these euphemisms sound really dumb. Well to be fair, the last time that Konoha had troubles with Kurama was during Madara's fight with Hashirama and I suppose that nobody but the elders knew the identity of the jinchuuriki. Plus the Hidden Mist never strike me like being a village filled with tacticians 
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May 8, 2013 23:54
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Willsun posted:I don't know if it's because I always end up reading the Mangastream version second, but their translation is really beginning to bother me with their unnecessary thesaurus words. poo poo like last time's "I'M ON CLOUD NINE" and all these euphemisms sound really dumb. Mangastream is better than Mangapanda, but they aren't perfect. I do sometimes feel they take one too many liberties that can either end up with everyone having the same "voice" r losing a little meaning. But its much better than mangapanda's translation. I'm not convincedd mangapanda even speak english let alone are capable of translating into it. I'm kinda getting the impression that the Mist had some method of just unleashing the bijuu fully. They are basically using Rin to carry the Tailed beast into the village. When it is free, it'll just loving rampage and, as we saw when the Nine Tails did it some years later, fighting a wild bijuu is something the entire village has trouble with. Now obviously, this plan is not gonna end up destroying the leaf. The leaf would have not only the Third and Minato to help fight the Three Tails, but their own jinnchuriki not to mention that Orochimaru is certainly still with Konoha at this time and Jiraya is probably around too, barring missions and poo poo. Presumably they are looking to simply weaken the Leaf post-war. Since Hashirama isn't around maybe they dont think that the leaf would be able to contain the Three Tails and would be forced to drive it off, or kill it? (Or maybe the leaf would be hesitant to hold onto the Three Tails as it would provoke the other nations, thinking the leaf is getting a little big for its britches?) but that is obviously just speculation, and risking something as valuable as a bijuu on such a plan smacks of idiocy, the real Madara somehow stirring poo poo up, or insane desperation. Or lovely writing I guess
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May 8, 2013 23:55
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The cloud country did some of the most ridiculous (and often times makes no sense) things.
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May 9, 2013 00:30
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Bisse posted:It honestly feels like fanfiction at this point.
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May 9, 2013 01:46
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MegaCharger posted:When are the hokages gonna show up? I'm kind of bored of Naruto repeatedly protecting everyone.
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May 9, 2013 02:17
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Surec posted:We've come full circle. Now when Naruto's on the page people want to the manga to cut over to Sasuke's group. Only because Sasuke's traveling companions are actually interesting (and nothing's really happening on Naruto's end.) 
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May 9, 2013 02:21
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What are the chances Naruto gets Tobi's eyes including the one Kakashi has / Nagato's Rinnegan in order for him to be the SO6P? e: Also theres a decent hypothesis about the So6P being the son of an Uzumaki. http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=333535 Kild fucked around with this message at 07:23 on May 9, 2013 |
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May 9, 2013 07:14
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Kild posted:What are the chances Naruto gets Tobi's eyes including the one Kakashi has / Nagato's Rinnegan in order for him to be the SO6P? For some reason I never thought about Obito's eyes going to Naruto. It would work, too, considering Obito's knowledge on SO6P stuff is somewhat decent and he might change sides.
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May 9, 2013 07:38
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I'm tempted to say Obito is beyond redemption after his actions as the "real Fourth Mizukage," but considering the recent developments with Orochimaru, who knows? I'm not sure how you can talk a committed solipsist like Obito out of his worldview, though. All the points that convinced Sasuke are irrelevant to him, because he can just respond to them with "I don't consider that real."
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May 9, 2013 07:43
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I'm guessing that the Rinnegan doesn't require special eyes or genetics to awaken. It strikes me as being something that comes with a certain degree of spiritual awakening. Essentially, you get them if you become a Ninja Buddha. Note that destroying the world to save people from suffering is a very Japanese Shonen Buddha-villain thing to do. On the other hand, being awesome in a unique and personal way seems to be the Senju thing to do. Naruto with Rinne-tensei kind of just makes death irrelevant though. Actually, since he has unlimited chakra, Madara could literally just end death forever if he wanted to.
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Hodgepodge posted:I'm guessing that the Rinnegan doesn't require special eyes or genetics to awaken. It strikes me as being something that comes with a certain degree of spiritual awakening. Essentially, you get them if you become a Ninja Buddha. If that were the case I am wondering why Hashirama never awakened them. And why did Madara awaken his?
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CURATOR OF ANIME posted:If that were the case I am wondering why Hashirama never awakened them. And why did Madara awaken his? Hashirama was too busy with day to day concerns and trying to implement a political solution to worldwide suffering. You can be an awesome dude and not become a Buddha. Using worldly power to good ends isn't necessarily a bad thing in this context, it's just not the path that leads one to being a Buddha (or vague Buddha analog). Giving up political power is explicitly what the original Buddha did immediately prior to his enlightenment. Madara awakened the Rinnegan when he became an ascetic and put his mind to using his power to end suffering on a worldwide scale. Naruto's solution to the problems of his crappy world is also fundamentally a spiritual one. He isn't proposing a new ninja system, he basically just wants people to think about each other differently and believes that the world will become a better place if enough people make that their goal in life. Ie, he is Ninja Jesus.
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Meanwhile, the subs for the Road to Ninja movie finally came out. Given that Kishi was the one writing the story for this one, it had somewhat higher expectations than the typical Naruto movie. Overall, it was just kind of okay-ish. I can't help but think it squandered a lot of its potential, though it had a few unexpected amusing surprises. At the very least, Naruto and his parents was done well while the Sakura sub-plot was just dumb. Would have liked to see a bit more of topsy turvy versions of Naruto's friends, but I guess a lot of that got cut for time (given there was gif of Hinata punching Sasuke posted around here from way back, but never showed up in the movie). The battles could have been better too, instead of bland. Basically, I feel like there could have been a lot more interesting things done with the initial premise.
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May 9, 2013 13:00
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Silver2195 posted:I'm not sure how you can talk a committed solipsist like Obito out of his worldview, though. All the points that convinced Sasuke are irrelevant to him, because he can just respond to them with "I don't consider that real." Gonna have to have ghost Rin debate him to the truth. Maybe ask him why his hasn't used his Rinnegan to resurrect her, then get into a 10 chapter debate about Plato's Cave. Alternatively, zombie 4th might have the pull as Obito's teacher and former Ninja Jesus to pull Obito out of his world subjugation scheming. Over a decade inside the Death God's stomach has got to give you at least some cred when it comes to metaphysical discussion.
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May 9, 2013 15:18
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Why doesn't Obito revive her with Edo Tensei?
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He has said that it isn't just about Rin, even if he revived her, the horrible ninja system that resulted in her dying and all the suffering of others wouldn't change.
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May 9, 2013 16:51
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Allarion posted:Meanwhile, the subs for the Road to Ninja movie finally came out. Given that Kishi was the one writing the story for this one, it had somewhat higher expectations than the typical Naruto movie. Overall, it was just kind of okay-ish. I can't help but think it squandered a lot of its potential, though it had a few unexpected amusing surprises. At the very least, Naruto and his parents was done well while the Sakura sub-plot was just dumb. Would have liked to see a bit more of topsy turvy versions of Naruto's friends, but I guess a lot of that got cut for time (given there was gif of Hinata punching Sasuke posted around here from way back, but never showed up in the movie). The battles could have been better too, instead of bland. Basically, I feel like there could have been a lot more interesting things done with the initial premise. That was a fanmade gif traced over from another show 
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May 9, 2013 16:58
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Prison Warden posted:He has said that it isn't just about Rin, even if he revived her, the horrible ninja system that resulted in her dying and all the suffering of others wouldn't change. Plus apparently that wasn't the real Rin anyway. The real Rin is way to perfect to die like that.
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May 9, 2013 17:18
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It just occurred to me that Obito hates everyone for being fakes, or "phonies" if you will. So Naruto is basically battling against ninja Holden Caulfield.
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May 9, 2013 18:23
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I'm not really sure how Obito will get converted by the power of friendship. He actively rejects reality, lacks physical sensations and doesn't seem to be aware of his own emotions. He still has emotions subconsciously but he doesn't seem to feel them, if that makes sense.
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Serious Frolicking posted:I'm not really sure how Obito will get converted by the power of friendship. He actively rejects reality, lacks physical sensations and doesn't seem to be aware of his own emotions. He still has emotions subconsciously but he doesn't seem to feel them, if that makes sense. Historically speaking, things have not worked out well in terms of "Friendship no Jutsu" for Akatsuki members.
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May 9, 2013 19:51
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He's no mere member of Akatsuki though.
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May 9, 2013 23:38
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U.T. Raptor posted:Honestly, I've read better fanfiction. Trap sprung
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May 10, 2013 19:06
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Kushina looks like she would've been awesome 
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May 10, 2013 21:37
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Seems like a really stupid thing for Kakashi to do, just kill Rin. Won't the three tails just be released wildly wherever he is then? I don't recall that killing the host kills the tailed beast itself
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Guilty posted:Seems like a really stupid thing for Kakashi to do, just kill Rin. Won't the three tails just be released wildly wherever he is then? I don't recall that killing the host kills the tailed beast itself I think you need to go back and re-read the chapter, you seem to have missed at least two important points.
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Guilty posted:Seems like a really stupid thing for Kakashi to do, just kill Rin. Won't the three tails just be released wildly wherever he is then? I don't recall that killing the host kills the tailed beast itself It actually does kill the Tailed Beast, though only temporarily.
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Guilty posted:Seems like a really stupid thing for Kakashi to do, just kill Rin. Won't the three tails just be released wildly wherever he is then? I don't recall that killing the host kills the tailed beast itself When Naruto was fighting the Raikage to allow him to fight in the war, the Raikage said that he would rather kill Naruto then than let Madara get the 9 tails. Doing so would cause both to die with the kyuubi resurrecting in a couple years. If killing the host released the tailed beast, then killing Naruto would have no effect on Madara's plans.
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Guilty posted:Seems like a really stupid thing for Kakashi to do, just kill Rin. Won't the three tails just be released wildly wherever he is then? I don't recall that killing the host kills the tailed beast itself IIRC, if a host dies without the beast being transferred then it just reappears somewhere after a period of time.
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May 11, 2013 00:12
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Ah, that's why the hidden mist village is loving dumb
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May 11, 2013 00:13
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There was also a moment when Naruto was near-death, where the Kyuubi explicitly mentions he is starting to fade too. Not to mention the entire reason that Kurama even gave Naruto any of his chakra in the first place, way back at the beginning of the series is to ensure his own survival. I mean, yeah he'll revive anyway but I guess dying isn't a pleasant experience for them in any event.
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Prison Warden posted:Not to mention the entire reason that Kurama even gave Naruto any of his chakra in the first place, way back at the beginning of the series is to ensure his own survival. I mean, yeah he'll revive anyway but I guess dying isn't a pleasant experience for them in any event. Evidently not, if dying would release him from imprisonment and he still doesn't want to.
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Black Is Black posted:Historically speaking, things have not worked out well in terms of "Friendship no Jutsu" for Akatsuki members. Guilty posted:Ah, that's why the hidden mist village is loving dumb Edit: v Not to mention that their Seven Swordsmen consists of, what, one guy right now? And that at least two of them have turned traitor, and that they'd lost all but one of their swords. U.T. Raptor fucked around with this message at 16:41 on May 11, 2013 |
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U.T. Raptor posted:I really have no idea how the Mist got to be classified as one of the five great villages. Yeah, thinking about it... A: kills off half of their graduating students pre-Zabuza. B: Hunts down and kills bloodline users C: Throws their bijuu at the one village whose upper echelons count the two best (presumably) sealing experts in the world. How the gently caress do they function?
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