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StumblyWumbly posted:Sometimes people have two talents. And sometimes they are Whilce Portacio.
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Halloween Jack posted:I also think that after spending all those years "picking the cotton" McFarlane doesn't want to be told that he should be beholden to anyone or anything as long as people are buying what he produces. I can understand it. He was saying that kind of poo poo when he was doing Spider-Man, though, is the thing. Dude gives zero fucks and is entirely in it for the bucks. Qwo posted:Good artists are bad writers. Jack Kirby, Frank Miller when he was in his prime, Steranko, Brandon Graham. Literally top of my head you are poo poo. BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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Metal Loaf posted:As much as Liefeld gets slagged off I get the impression that he genuinely loves comics. I don't get the same impression from McFarlane. I asked a guy who met both of them and he says that Liefeld is a pretty decent fellow while McFarlane is a complete shitlord. moot the hopple posted:Mike Mignola I like how Mignola has panels devoted to the close-ups of sculptures and paintings within the scenes of his story. I didn't get them at first but they set the mood and atmosphere like a film.
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So I've been thinking lately. Since SA's sort of declining (mods are all leaving, half the forums are a mess, etc.), are there any other decent comicbook discussion sites? Most of the ones out there are pretty low traffic, and SA has some good posters, especially here. I don't read much else but BSS and a few games threads these days, but the comicbook discussion is slightly above the average internet. Maybe it's a good idea if the best of BSS is backed up and a replacement forum or something is considered. I was considering setting up a comicbook site; I've been working on annotating some of my favorite series (mainly Udon's Street Fighter) and I was thinking why not go all the way and make a full on comicbook discussion site? Note: not interested in drama or exploring why or why not people agree or disagree over the forums' state. I'm just asking for opinions on alternatives just in case.
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Jan 31, 2014 09:09
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Mister Roboto posted:So I've been thinking lately. Since SA's sort of declining (mods are all leaving, half the forums are a mess, etc.), are there any other decent comicbook discussion sites? Most of the ones out there are pretty low traffic, and SA has some good posters, especially here. I don't read much else but BSS and a few games threads these days, but the comicbook discussion is slightly above the average internet. I had thought BSS had been kept mostly drama free from things  If you're wondering where a lot (?) of comic book discussion has moved and where the majority of posters post outside of BSS is pretty much just Twitter as far as I'm aware.
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Jan 31, 2014 09:25
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Waterhaul posted:I had thought BSS had been kept mostly drama free from things Oh, it is drama free, I wasn't saying otherwise. That's probably because of the low population; there's like, 40 regular posters? Still, that's a decent number, a small community can be made around that. That's why I'm asking if we should make a backup plan just in case. But if everyone's moved to twitter, then maybe messageboards and discussion sites are just a thing of the 2000s.
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Jan 31, 2014 09:31
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Mister Roboto posted:Oh, it is drama free, I wasn't saying otherwise. Honestly I don't think there are any other great messageboards out there anymore but maybe other people will disagree. BSS isn't going anywhere and while our community number increases and decreases at various points I think we have a healthy community of people who get on with each other and just like talking about comics. I'd hope other people feel the same with regards to that. Waterhaul fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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Jan 31, 2014 10:34
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Waterhaul posted:Honestly I don't think they are any other great messageboards out there anymore but maybe other people will disagree. BSS isn't going anywhere and while our community number increases and decreases at various points I think we have a healthy community of people who get on with each other and just like talking about comics. I'd hope other people feel the same with regards to that. I've got to agree. Outside of whatever is going on in GBS, what's the cause of all this "sky is falling" nonsense?
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Jan 31, 2014 11:38
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:good artist Seriously?
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qntm posted:Seriously? Really, really good.
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Soonmot posted:I've got to agree. Outside of whatever is going on in GBS, what's the cause of all this "sky is falling" nonsense? GBS has always been a loving mess, but the rest of the forums seem unchanged to me. Of course, I also never engage in any of the SA-specific stuff like FYAD or YOSPOS or whatever. The idea of dumping BSS for some arbitrary "the forums are dying" reason seems ludicrous to me. This is easily my favourite part of the site. Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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qntm posted:Seriously? Yes.  I could not find any good scans from his original Shadow miniseries, but that is some drat good comics art. E: Have some more.      
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Action Tortoise posted:I asked a guy who met both of them and he says that Liefeld is a pretty decent fellow while McFarlane is a complete shitlord. Liefeld always struck me as a big kid who just happened to be in the right place at the right time to become insanely popular by giving the 90s kids the bodacious grimdark kickass comics they wanted and he honestly doesn't understand why so many people hate him.
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Soonmot posted:I've got to agree. Outside of whatever is going on in GBS, what's the cause of all this "sky is falling" nonsense? There's been a lot of changes going on with regards to the state of the forum and admin/moderation for the last few days so I can understand if people get worried or that but well BSS is still just BSS. If people ever have queries or anything I've always said they can post here or PM/e-mail if they don't want to talk on the forums, same with any suggestions they may have and that won't be changing. There are very long threads in QCS if people want to look through everything that's happened with different mods/admins stepping down or being removed. qntm posted:Seriously? I think Chaykin is best treated like Claremont. They were both great at what they do but you don't want to read any of their stuff from the last few years. Any of Chaykin's superhero stuff anyway.
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Jan 31, 2014 14:21
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Waterhaul posted:I think Chaykin is best treated like Claremont. They were both great at what they do but you don't want to read any of their stuff from the last few years. Any of Chaykin's superhero stuff anyway. I still enjoy his art. It's got a chunky, square-jawed kind of thing that I find appealing for some reason. (Same for Frank Miller; the enormous hands are weird, but not weird enough to turn me off completely.)
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prefect posted:I still enjoy his art. It's got a chunky, square-jawed kind of thing that I find appealing for some reason. (Same for Frank Miller; the enormous hands are weird, but not weird enough to turn me off completely.) Yeah i don't mind it either though I know i'm well into the minority. Well I don't mind his non Marvel work. I also still like Miller's art too (though I amn't going to brave Holy Terror or that recent Catwoman cover.)
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Jan 31, 2014 14:48
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prefect posted:I still enjoy his art. It's got a chunky, square-jawed kind of thing that I find appealing for some reason. (Same for Frank Miller; the enormous hands are weird, but not weird enough to turn me off completely.) I like his art. I plan on getting that big Sin City trade coming out later this year and still think his Daredevil and most of his Batman art is amazing. I just think that he currently does not work as a superhero artist and is fitted more for stuff that has the same tone as Sin City. It is violent, but its done to the ridiculous extreme.
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Waterhaul posted:There's been a lot of changes going on with regards to the state of the forum and admin/moderation for the last few days so I can understand if people get worried or that but well BSS is still just BSS. If people ever have queries or anything I've always said they can post here or PM/e-mail if they don't want to talk on the forums, same with any suggestions they may have and that won't be changing. There are very long threads in QCS if people want to look through everything that's happened with different mods/admins stepping down or being removed. Okay, I read up on it a bit, and I see why those guys are upset, but I still think it's insane to start talking about moving to another forum because poo poo is going down in GBS/FYAD when some of us probably want nothing to do with those parts of SA in the first place. Sorry, I'll stop talking about it, I just don't think we should freak out over other subforums' internet drama. I love BSS and I'd hate to see all that bullshit intrude on this place. Hakkesshu fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Jan 31, 2014 |
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Hakkesshu posted:Okay, I read up on it a bit, and I see why those guys are upset, but I still think it's insane to start talking about moving to another forum because poo poo is going down in GBS/FYAD when some of us probably want nothing to do with those parts of SA in the first place. Also to be honest where would we go? Have you ever been to the forums of comic sits like comic book resources?
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Jan 31, 2014 15:11
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bobkatt013 posted:Also to be honest where would we go? Have you ever been to the forums of comic sits like comic book resources? I started out there, and I ain't goin' back. *flicks switchblade* I AIN'T GOIN' BACK, YA HEAR ME?
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Hakkesshu posted:Okay, I read up on it a bit, and I see why those guys are upset, but I still think it's insane to start talking about moving to another forum because poo poo is going down in GBS/FYAD when some of us probably want nothing to do with those parts of SA in the first place. You don't need to apologise. It's okay to talk about if people want or are concerned about things. You're right though in that none of it really effects BSS and people can just continue to post as they always do. Personally i'd like to see more threads in BSS and am currently working on a few bigger ones myself but other than that I think BSS is a great community of people who like talking about comics and that's not going to change regardless of what goes on in the rest of SA.
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I keep meaning to post a Wonder Woman thread but I'm waiting on all my hardcovers to arrive. Apparently they're held up somewhere along the retail chain-link line.
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Action Tortoise posted:I asked a guy who met both of them and he says that Liefeld is a pretty decent fellow while McFarlane is a complete shitlord. I once met a man who told me that his biggest inspiration as a comic artist was Rob Liefeld. I have no idea how I kept a straight face until he left.
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There are worse inspirations to have as an artist.
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Waterhaul posted:You don't need to apologise. It's okay to talk about if people want or are concerned about things. I know I have said this before, but next week I will have a hellboy thread up. There is a lot of crazy poo poo going down and it has been 20 years since Seed of Destruction came out.
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bobkatt013 posted:Also to be honest where would we go? Have you ever been to the forums of comic sits like comic book resources? I sometimes post there, but only in the Marvel subforum. I went into the DC subforum once and it was a whole lot of "Forever Evil is better than Earth 2" or "Mark Waid is the worst thing ever to happen to comics" and so on. There was another one I looked at but never registered with or posted on (it wasn't CBR; I can't really remember what the name of the site was) where this one dude was a really hardcore DC fanboy and slagged off Kevin Maguire for not being a good little company man and keeping his mouth shut about being sacked from JL 3000.
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Metal Loaf posted:I sometimes post there, but only in the Marvel subforum. I went into the DC subforum once and it was a whole lot of "Forever Evil is better than Earth 2" or "Mark Waid is the worst thing ever to happen to comics" and so on. Try the X-threads.
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I tried going there to discuss X-Factor, because pretty much no one here read that at the time, and I'm never loving going back. Seriously there aren't any comics forums that are better and more informative than BSS, despite our faults. I would not be reading comics today if this forum wasn't here.
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What is this sky is falling SA stuff? So there's probably going to be a transition and change coming about. This is not necessarily a bad thing yet. Unless Lowtax decides he made this and he's going to end it.
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Jan 31, 2014 16:13
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Somebody give me the quick and dirty. Last time I checked out GBS everyone seemed to be having a Pretty Good Time with the (fairly amazing) 9/11-Star Wars mashups.
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redbackground posted:Somebody give me the quick and dirty. Last time I checked out GBS everyone seemed to be having a Pretty Good Time with the (fairly amazing) 9/11-Star Wars mashups. GBS is a mess, and a lot of people are calling for a general forum revamp and a mod overhaul. People yelled at each other and a lot of them were banned, others walked away, mods included. It's not anything new, and it's not surprising. The thing I find most baffling is the constant insistence that the forums are supposed to be this or that way, and the current way isn't working, so let's get rid of subforum X or Y. I'm not going to disparage anyone in FYAD or GBS, but I have like 9.000 posts on this forum and I have no clue who Wayne Gretzky or Ruddha are. Maybe I'm missing out, but given the way things are going, I don't wanna touch that poo poo. Internet drama is the worst. I primarily post here, in Games, and in the Giant Bomb thread, the latter two widely considered to be hellholes, and these are still the best/most civil forums I've ever seen.
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Hakkesshu posted:I have no clue who Wayne Gretzky or Ruddha are. Cool
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Wasn't there a goon run proto-BSS around the time Identity Crisis came out? I remember GBS getting flooded with comic threads and that offsite forum failed to divert the threads enough so BSS was created.
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Sanschel posted:Wasn't there a goon run proto-BSS around the time Identity Crisis came out? I remember GBS getting flooded with comic threads and that offsite forum failed to divert the threads enough so BSS was created. I have no memory of this. I went to work one night and when I got home 8 hours later BSS existed.
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Sanschel posted:Wasn't there a goon run proto-BSS around the time Identity Crisis came out? I remember GBS getting flooded with comic threads and that offsite forum failed to divert the threads enough so BSS was created. I don't remember an offsite forum though BSS was created shortly before I started lurking SA. There was an IRC channel, maybe still is if people still use IRC? There was the BSS FAQ for a short while.
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I am kind of glad BSS exists otherwise I probably wouldn't be reading comics today. Actually that might not be a good thing. My wallet hates you guys. I still love all of you though. Even Rhyno.
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Dan Didio posted:Cool Don't be like that, I specifically didn't mean to disparage anyone, nor tout that as some sort of stamp of pride. My point is that there's more to SA than what's going on in GBS/FYAD on any given day.
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No one cares, dude. Talking about a situation that had a lot to do with posters like Wayne and Ruddha and you don't know who any of them are. Like, thanks, but no one cares. No one cares about anything
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I don't remember anything offsite besides the IRC room either. We just flooded GBS until the admins got fed up.
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Dan Didio posted:No one cares, dude. Then why the passive-aggressiveness? Maybe I said something dumb, but I'd rather not promote the exact thing I'm complaining about. Edit: Never mind, I'm gonna drop it, this wasn't my intention.
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