Lowtax posted:

I never started this site, and I never ran this site, for the intention of becoming popular and attracting new members, sorry.

Sham bam bamina! posted:

it's baffling that you're set against taking even the simplest action to shore up declining popularity when that declining popularity seems to bring you nothing but personal misery in the first place. you (justifiably) complain about revenue and yet you refuse to do anything about the source of that revenue?

Puppy Galaxy posted:

I haven't seen any child porn in Fyad

Lowtax posted:

Dont you think that if the answer was simply " HURRR UPGRADE VB" I would've done that a loooooooong time ago? I know you want to think that I ruined this entire community because I didn't want to pony up a payment of $250, but literally 70% of the code running here is custom and from scratch. I know in your world all problems would be solved by merely upgrading vB or one of many other simple and easy answers, and I know how familiar you are with the performance impact and changes each and every vB iteration released had, but for some reason, the world and situation is slightly more complex than that.

Lowtax posted:

no offense, but you're an idiot

Lowtax posted:

you're an incredible moron

Beast of Bourbon posted:

it would be cool if there was like a pay-to-ban button and members could donate money and eventually ban someone, or maybe even ban them from certain sub forums and such and so forth

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but literally 70% of the code running here is custom and from scratch.

TRON JEREMY posted:

everything to do with the forums - content, code, upkeep and management - is embarrassing as hell and the whole thing should be buried and paved over

Lowtax posted:

no offense, but you're an idiot

Lowtax posted:

you're an incredible moron

TerminalRaptor posted:

for the love of god *do not* take volunteers to fix things. everyone has ideas of how to help and no drat clue on how to actually execute on said ideas. add in the fact that this is *your* revenue stream and you'll have retard-mania butt-hurt drama in no time. "I volunteered to fix Mr Kayankavich's forums for free, put in a billion hours, and now he's living so well he buys Teslas and throws them out when the batteries die, and he didn't even have the gall to pay me! that idiot poo poo-fucker conned me!"

if you do pay someone to fix things don't let it be a goon, or at least a not a goon who posts a poo poo-ton. someone who spends all their free time posting on a forum is not the best candidate to do actual work.

the pay-wall was a large part of what kept me from registering for the longest time. not because of the cost, but because as you said, you can get a lot of the same thing from free elsewhere on the internet. honestly, now since i've paid, i've grown to appreciate the monetary barrier keeps a lot of idiots out; not that you could tell from some of the posting. as others have said, some sort of recurring charge feature would be nice, but it should probably be for flair only


gently caress if i'm a good candidate to tell you how to fix things though. i'm serious posting in a os flamewar subforum.

TRON JEREMY posted:

simmer down, beavis

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TerminalRaptor posted:

everyone has ideas of how to help and no drat clue on how to actually execute on said ideas.

Smythe posted:

N.Z.'s Champion posted:

i wrote an sa app. the smilies are cached locally and images can be turned off which works well in my 3rd world country. includes a pretty good saforums parser


wonder if the passwords are hashed. pretty sure metafilter still stores them unhashed

sa is a read heavy site that primarily needs a good cache layer that can be pushed to CDNs. so thats a question of serialization (eg data dependency graphs)

to model that you'd need a graph of the forums/threads/comments/users, and then triggers to update the serialization

then have a client library that other apps can build upon

as far as migration i don't see any need to take the site down for this -- you'd probably run it in parallel on a subdomain w/ access to the same db

i'll start the pwiki

N.Z.'s Champion posted:

here's what it looks like on my phone (nexus 5, custom build of the app)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydQ_mZ5Pqho

so everyone just use my phone when you want to browse the forums

that app isn't something that i suggest anyone else use (and I didn't test on any other phones, you're right it's buggy), but i guess i'm trying to say that it only took a few months to implement most of the sa API (sa.lib.js) and the API isn't too big at all. so after doing that i have an idea of the complexity of replicating SA's features (as awfulapp devs would too...) and it seems that the effort required to make SA fast and cdn-friendly (which i think are the main problems) would be a few months work by one or two devs.

i don't think lowtax is asking for help though is he? he's just drowning in it

N.Z.'s Champion posted:

yeah this is how you'd actually fix it. it's not a lot of work to replace the forums, forum, and thread view which is the server bottleneck

the existing url structure could be maintained:

• showthread.php has the threadid and pagenumber in the url. so either redirect to a new url, or get nginx to serve up static html whose javascript accesses a static built thread-3742786_page-8.json served from a cdn. that could move the traffic on sa servers to the edge of the network (eg to a cdn service).
  
• forumdisplay.php has the forumid and pagenumber in the url too so same deal, redirect or serve static html whose js reads the url and accesses accessing forum-219_page-1.json
  

those are the core features that can be fixed without much effort (a month or so)

the hardest bit is cache invalidation but that's just a dependency graph


there's a lot of fat to trim

• leper colony
  
• archives
  
• gas chamber
  
• goldmine
  
• forums cancer
  
• gbs train
  
• saclopedia
  

all of these don't really matter and aren't the bottleneck. so you could eventually support them but it's (imo) not very important

pram posted:

the most pathetic appeal for a vanity project

N.Z.'s Champion posted:

welp guess i was wrong when i thought i made sites bigger than sa and did consulting on site bottlenecks and stuff

ultramiraculous posted:

there are literal facebook and apple employees on here. some of us contribute to awful.app. have you used awful.app?

OSI bean dip posted:

some real old-valeyard-level crap going on in here

sorry buddy

pram posted:

lol

echinopsis posted:

just ask "have you heard of the something awful forums" in the interview and you'll manage to filter out both people who you would never want working on the site (anyone who has ever heard of it) and liars at the same time

ony accept "something awful? what kind of website name is that?"

zen death robot posted:

Holy poo poo there are a lot of bad posts in this thread.

qntm posted:

ask them if they have stairs in their house and if they say "uh, what's that got to do with anything, are you an idiot" hire them

ultramiraculous posted:

there are literal facebook and apple employees on here

ultramiraculous posted:

there are literal facebook and apple employees on here. some of us contribute to awful.app

TerminalRaptor posted:

Remember when Lowtax used to write for Voodooextreme? Good times.

Is there still a corpse of that site around?