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Maxwell Lord posted:Thing is, there's always been a certain libertarian slant to the "space trader" genre- fundamentally it's looking at the wonders of an endless universe to which you have access, and thinking "man I could make a killing off of trading tungsten futures." Like, it's the easiest way to game-ify space exploration- have resources which you gather and use to trade for fuel, weapons, better ships, etc.- but there are times the genre really leans into "this is your job, get to working." This is enhanced by the hilariously bland Sharper Image aesthetic SC aims for- a bunch of fancy space yachts clearly targeting people with more money than taste. I see where you are coming from, but IMO real "libertarians" don't deal with video games in general, or space sims specifically. They bribe governments to enable criminality, fund propaganda and so on. Pick one of ~500 US billionaires; they are real libertarians. Fanboys of star citizen/crobo are at best wannabes. Edit: taxxe: skeletors_condom fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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There is nothing to be gained from a no true scotsman argument about "real libertarians" comeon this is literally a fallacy
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trucutru posted:I mean, last week we had the "subhuman invertebrates" guy who was given a temp ban in reddit, and a week or two before him we had that other one with the racist tirade, and before that... nope, I don't smell any alt-right in there. SJWWWWWWWWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Whole lot of repetitive behavior like that guy, but just a few bad apples ...
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Zaphod42 posted:There is nothing to be gained from a no true scotsman argument about "real libertarians" comeon Maybe you're right. Idk, I don't treat libertarianism as a real-life philosophy. IMO it's a PR strategy for well-connected criminals. A similar example would be Russian oligarchs. Most Russians who support the government are not oligarchs; yet their actions and beliefs functionally reflect oligarchs values. I am just saying that most star citizen fanboys (i.e. ones on spectrum + r/sc) are not into "the ethno-state" and other super weird poo poo. Most of them are into dumb video gaming BS. They are nostalgic for 90s/early 2000s gaming culture and they've taken this nostalgia to the nth degree. But they are not weird, hosed racists; at least not the majority of them.
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lol did I just read someone earnestly post that there’s no overlap between the alt right and gamers what the hell is this game doing to poor goons minds
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skeletors_condom posted:But they are not weird, hosed racists; at least not the majority of them. You're adorable.
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free hubcaps posted:lol did I just read someone earnestly post that there’s no overlap between the alt right and gamers The alt right literally came into being as “gamer gate” before that nerds with lovely beliefs but too physically weak to actually be skinheads or whatever didn’t have a coherent identity. all gamers
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# ? Sep 8, 2019 04:58 |
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As another SC backer posts about wanting a rape mechanic in game.
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MarcusSA posted:As another SC backer posts about wanting a rape mechanic in game. Could you inevitably link r/sc’s discussion of the inevitable consequences of piracy?
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idk if it’s been posted itt but the saddest/most infuriating star citizen thing I’ve seen was a cap of a forums post where the poster was clearly having a problem with impulse control/addiction to buying spaceship jpegs and I think said something about it seriously affecting his finances, it seemed kind of like a cry for help and the first loving reply was a mod or some other shill telling him to drown his sorrows by buying more spaceship jpegs.
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skeletors_condom posted:I am just saying that most star citizen fanboys (i.e. ones on spectrum + r/sc) are not into "the ethno-state" and other super weird poo poo. Most of them are into dumb video gaming BS. They are nostalgic for 90s/early 2000s gaming culture and they've taken this nostalgia to the nth degree. But they are not weird, hosed racists; at least not the majority of them. This is trivially disproven by looking at the post histories that are frequently posted. Stop being a doofus.
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free hubcaps posted:idk if it’s been posted itt but the saddest/most infuriating star citizen thing I’ve seen was a cap of a forums post where the poster was clearly having a problem with impulse control/addiction to buying spaceship jpegs and I think said something about it seriously affecting his finances, it seemed kind of like a cry for help and the first loving reply was a mod or some other shill telling him to drown his sorrows by buying more spaceship jpegs. I mean thats sad but we just had a post a few weeks ago about a SC backer getting his friend to take out a loan from his credit union to buy the 890....
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# ? Sep 8, 2019 05:12 |
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There are a couple of people ITT who comb through every post on reddit and twitter grabbing the delusional or vile ones. Of course you're going to think they're all alt-righters or space-libertarians or whatever. But most Star Citizen fans aren't alt-righters. Hell most star citizen fans aren't even visible -- they didn't make $300 million dollars just from the people on reddit. Even the people who still believe the Dream have mostly wandered off because the game has such little progress. Some of the most prominent shitizens are alt-right or terrible in some other way because that's the nature of the extremely online. The internet makes you crazy + terrible people who are rejected by everyone irl live on the internet. (Also for some reason the edgiest of edgelords are among the last to leave a dying video game community. I don't know why but I've seen it repeated a couple times.) SpaceSDoorGunner posted:The alt right literally came into being as “gamer gate” before that nerds with lovely beliefs but too physically weak to actually be skinheads or whatever didn’t have a coherent identity. This is idiotic, the alt-right isn't just angry gamer nerds. The term "alt-right" was invented to describe political skinheads. Klyith fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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MarcusSA posted:Hahah that was a good rant. I wanted to post the text since it scrolled pretty fast but now I can't seem to play it. If you let the whole animation play it'll show you the full text at the end skeletors_condom posted:Yeah but cutt88 (I am assuming that's the dude from oneangrygamer) is not representative of the wider SC fanboy population. In general, oneangrygamer is trash; it's not something any normal person ("gamer" or a person who plays video games) would approach seriously. SC fanboys care about "fidelity," crobo's word salad and other BS, not the ethnostate. And I am not representative of the whole SA population. Yet we all love anime tiddies, big ones. Coincidence? I think not!
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MarcusSA posted:I mean thats sad but we just had a post a few weeks ago about a SC backer getting his friend to take out a loan from his credit union to buy the 890.... No, his friend wanted to do it and he told him not to and how stupid it was.
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So I just finished COD: Infinite Warfare. TBH I'm not sure what Chris can do to top it. It's a mega-budget action ride, with awesome set pieces, great zero-G gameplay and tight gunfighting. The story is pretty trash, but the ending isn't too bad. The AI is COD dumb but not terrible. It does some cool things with the formula and pushes it in lots of different ways. It's your standard jack-boot military oo-rah shoot-em-up and so far of what we've seen of SQ42 it's literally what that game wants to be. A game from like 2 years ago will probably mop the floor with Chris's magnum opus.
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free hubcaps posted:idk if it’s been posted itt but the saddest/most infuriating star citizen thing I’ve seen was a cap of a forums post where the poster was clearly having a problem with impulse control/addiction to buying spaceship jpegs and I think said something about it seriously affecting his finances, it seemed kind of like a cry for help and the first loving reply was a mod or some other shill telling him to drown his sorrows by buying more spaceship jpegs. I remember that, the enabler was telling the guy with the addiction problem that he should buy a ship with a hot tub to destress in lol. :facepalm: During my time as a backer (my 'dumb' time), I had argued with that particular enabler as they didn't understand why having toilets and food related items/needs in a mostly spaceship combat game was dumb as gently caress. Not long after that, I became an goon
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Regrettable posted:No, his friend wanted to do it and he told him not to and how stupid it was. That's right, but to be fair the initial tweet didn't make it clear whether or not he agreed it was a good idea.
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Sabreseven posted:I remember that, the enabler was telling the guy with the addiction problem that he should buy a ship with a hot tub to destress in lol. :facepalm: You guys are thinking about Humility, the backer who posted that he basically buys ships he can't afford because he feels dead inside and has to hide it from his family. Ideally this is where mirificus posts the screen caps because it was a memorable moment in this poo poo wreck video game
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TonyMcS posted:IT APPEARS SQ42 IS POWERING ALONG. They are still working on how to pause a single player
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No_talent posted:They are still working on how to pause a single player No they want to add tech so that when your want to pause the scene then characters wind down and wait for you to return, at which point they'll go back to acting the scene out. You don't to pause and have the characters frozen on screen with their mouths half-open, do you? Something like "okay, take five, we'll continue this briefing in a moment" kind of crap. You know, logical important stuff that all games should have.
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Solarin posted:You guys are thinking about Humility, the backer who posted that he basically buys ships he can't afford because he feels dead inside and has to hide it from his family. Ideally this is where mirificus posts the screen caps because it was a memorable moment in this poo poo wreck video game Holy poo poo, it was Humility, you are correct. I hope he managed to get out of the con and get things back on track in his life. Mirificus, do your thing dude.
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Posting cause we're back to early days of Thread Development.
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Sabreseven posted:Mirificus, do your thing dude. I think Miribot is broken at the moment.
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Sabreseven posted:Holy poo poo, it was Humility, you are correct. I hope he managed to get out of the con and get things back on track in his life. I don't know if he managed to get completely out of the con, but at least he found another actual game to play as I did see him posting on the Ubi Anno 1800 forums a couple of times
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Sabreseven posted:Holy poo poo, it was Humility, you are correct. I hope he managed to get out of the con and get things back on track in his life.
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Klyith posted:(Also for some reason the edgiest of edgelords are among the last to leave a dying video game community. I don't know why but I've seen it repeated a couple times.) Once you scam a chud he stays scammed.
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I still cant believe how much money people have put into this game. And everyone cheers when tiny features are added.
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free hubcaps posted:idk if it’s been posted itt but the saddest/most infuriating star citizen thing I’ve seen was a cap of a forums post where the poster was clearly having a problem with impulse control/addiction to buying spaceship jpegs and I think said something about it seriously affecting his finances, it seemed kind of like a cry for help and the first loving reply was a mod or some other shill telling him to drown his sorrows by buying more spaceship jpegs. There's so many red flags, its definitely a cult at this point.
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Solarin posted:You guys are thinking about Humility, the backer who posted that he basically buys ships he can't afford because he feels dead inside and has to hide it from his family. Ideally this is where mirificus posts the screen caps because it was a memorable moment in this poo poo wreck video game lol, my Lakon Asp in Elite was called HUMILITY. Its ship ID was set to HO-LLO. Like death. All its life.
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Pretty sure this woman was later driven out by sexual harassment, though I might have the story wrong, but it's not like the citizens aren't rather harass friendly Titanic might remember, where's the Titanic
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Spiderdrake posted:Pretty sure this woman was later driven out by sexual harassment, though I might have the story wrong, but it's not like the citizens aren't rather harass friendly She last posted on Spectrum 5 months ago, FWIW.
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Klyith posted:But also any remaining "actual pros" will be in the UK office where they're mostly insulated from Crobbler, or in Frankfurt where they're even further away. Crobbler's personal domain in Santa monica is where you'd have to deal with the man himself. I get the impression that office is staffed entirely by "game designers", 3d spaceship modeling artists, and the guys who make videos every day talking about how amazing everything is going. That is interesting I had not thought about that. The value of the Manchester office is Crobert is not there.
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skeletors_condom posted:I see where you are coming from, but IMO real "libertarians" don't deal with video games in general, or space sims specifically. They bribe governments to enable criminality, fund propaganda and so on. I have no idea if that was intentional, but the resemblance it is uncanny. [https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3773270&pagenumber=5#post467914548] reverend crabhands fucked around with this message at 10:25 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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Content creators were a mistake
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I am no longer collecting high-temporal-resolution funding data, due to loss of the scripts involved (which was in turn due to idiocy), but the public funding spreadsheet is still chugging along. A casual look at the daily funding totals is rather interesting. The pattern that I had grown accustomed to from previous observation was that daily totals tended to be low-ish in the absence of exogeneous stimuli (sales events primarily). Thus a large proportion of the total funding was picked up in very extreme sales spikes. Starting in late 2018, this pattern appears to have shifted fairly decisively. Although sales spikes do still occur, as we can see from the minelayer and fingernail clipper sales, the typical daily total was noticeably elevated for most of the first half of 2019. It still appears high-ish to me although I have not attempted a quantitative verification. Perhaps there is a reasonable and benign explanation for this pattern shift, though I am unable to think of one. For your edification, I have marked the dates of Citcon 2018 and the investor/financials reveal with red lines. Note that I adjusted the y axis to focus more on the lower totals associated with typical daily activity. The high sales spikes are way off the top of the chart. boviscopophobic fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Sep 8, 2019 |
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Tippis posted:The fidelity was so great that it failed to be much of a simulator at all, essentially just replicating the same kind of arcade gameplay that was the core of Wing Commander (unsurprisingly since SC was just WC-with-fighter-jets). Again, Falcon 3.0 was the actual F-16 simulator of its time and featured a level of simulation that required a maths co-processor to run its high-fidelity flight model mode. Chris did help shape the industry to a degree, though. The Wing Commander series was one of the early examples of pushing production values over everything else, so if you see a game that's all graphics and very little memorable gameplay you can sort of thank Chris for that.
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XK posted:Ms. Management
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