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From the AAC commissioner:quote:IRVING, Texas – American Athletic Conference Commissioner Mike Aresco has issued the following statement on today’s announcement by the Big 12 Conference. I assume the AAC has to raid the Sun Belt or something, right? The Sun Belt already put out a statement at https://sunbeltsports.org/
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Komet posted:The Sun Belt already put out a statement at https://sunbeltsports.org/ I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up adding Boise State, even though it seems like a bad marriage for both sides. That's a flirtation that dates back to the twilight of the old Big East.
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Sep 10, 2021 19:00
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Congrats to Goons whose programs are part of the new BigXII. I will be curious to see what the TV rights' value will look like. BYU and UCF in the same conference, hard to believe.
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Sep 10, 2021 19:05
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General Dog posted:I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up adding Boise State, even though it seems like a bad marriage for both sides. Just speaking generally here (the Sun Belt seems insane) Boise's in a weird spot where it tests the only football matters part of things. Yeah football matters most but Boise State really brings absolutely nothing else. Also they're in a hell of an awkward place geographically. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Sep 10, 2021 |
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Sep 10, 2021 19:05
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Grittybeard posted:Just speaking generally here (the Sun Belt seems insane) Boise's in a weird spot where it tests the only football matters part of things. Yeah football matters most but Boise State really brings absolutely nothing else. They should join the big sky
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Sep 10, 2021 19:10
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MourningView posted:why do people think colorado state is good Because of these awesome uniforms they wore... one time. 
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Sep 10, 2021 19:13
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Scarf posted:Because of these awesome uniforms they wore... one time. I saw those in their uniform lineup in their stadium atrium for this year so they're still available for them to wear. Who knows if they will again, but they were some good unis.
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Sep 10, 2021 19:15
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Trying to poach the Sun Belt would make sense but Mountain West would likely be the easiest course of action. Does AAC really bring in that much more revenue than Sun Belt?Grittybeard posted:Just speaking generally here (the Sun Belt seems insane) Boise's in a weird spot where it tests the only football matters part of things. Yeah football matters most but Boise State really brings absolutely nothing else. I mean AAC already had Cincy to UFC to Houston. Granted they're more populated areas but still a really spread out conference. Ches Neckbeard fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Sep 10, 2021 |
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Sep 10, 2021 19:15
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No one ever talks about raiding the MAC because a) the MAC is probably the most stable of all G5 conferences and b) almost all MAC schools exist in the Big Ten footprint and bring no real revenue to anyone. And so many teams have had brief periods of being either really good or really bad over the last 20 years.
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Sep 10, 2021 19:23
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Trying to poach the Sun Belt would make sense but Mountain West would likely be the easiest course of action. Does AAC really bring in that much more revenue than Sun Belt? It's dramatic. In 2019, when the AAC re-upped its contract, they paid out $7 million/year to schools. The Sun Belt was $500k per year, total. The Sun Belt just extended their rights deal, so I expect that number to be higher, but it remains to be seen by how much, as neither they or ESPN release numbers back in July.
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Sep 10, 2021 19:24
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Komet posted:No one ever talks about raiding the MAC because a) the MAC is probably the most stable of all G5 conferences and b) almost all MAC schools exist in the Big Ten footprint and bring no real revenue to anyone. And so many teams have had brief periods of being either really good or really bad over the last 20 years. They also generally exist to play each other, so why leave your family like that? The rivalry web over there is, uh, elaborate.
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Sep 10, 2021 19:51
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Grittybeard posted:Just speaking generally here (the Sun Belt seems insane) Boise's in a weird spot where it tests the only football matters part of things. Yeah football matters most but Boise State really brings absolutely nothing else. Their basketball program isn't great or anything but it's been okay since the football program took off. But yeah they are probably the team that suffers the most from football becoming increasingly centered in the south and there being only two FBS conferences on the west coast. Ches Neckbeard posted:Trying to poach the Sun Belt would make sense but Mountain West would likely be the easiest course of action. Does AAC really bring in that much more revenue than Sun Belt? At least right now their TV deal is a lot better but I imagine that's about to go down a fair bit.
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Sep 10, 2021 20:10
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Yeah the 8-team core remaining of the AAC is pretty dire, especially right now. I could maybe talk myself into a scenario where C-USA or the Sun Belt take from them rather than the other way around. But I guess those three exit fees maybe give everyone enough spending money to keep things stable.
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Sep 10, 2021 20:21
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The remaining AAC teams aren't all that much more attractive than the Mountain West, so I'm not sure Boise State gains much by leaving. Sun Belt has 12 teams and Conference USA has 14. There's not much room for them to gobble up the remainders. There might be a couple of teams eyeing the job from FCS to FBS, like JMU. Or someone might be desperate enough to take Liberty.
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Sep 10, 2021 20:43
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Liberty is a pretty appealing expansion candidate if you think you can live with them. I don't think the remaining AAC teams are more appealing than the MWC at all, especially if your school is in Boise, ID, but I keep hearing that Boise is unhappy there for whatever reason.
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Sep 10, 2021 20:49
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Had it not been for BYU, I probably would have never said the combination of words "Jimmer Fredette" in my life, so there's that
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Sep 10, 2021 20:51
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General Dog posted:Liberty is a pretty appealing expansion candidate if you think you can live with them. TV money and the bowl partnerships are the big complaints I think. Also it's just been kinda bad recently outside of a couple teams. Nevada seems like they're in a good spot with Norvell but most of the time it seems like SDSU and Boise are the only two really trying that hard.
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Sep 10, 2021 21:17
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The main tough thing for AAC in assessing expansion candidates is that most of the programs in the C-USA and Sun Belt seem close in terms of resources. I mean I guess App State has always shown good fan investment and good decision making, but you could've said the same of Georgia Southern up until a few years ago. Western Kentucky was a model G5 program right up until the point that it wasn't (much like current AAC member ECU). You basically just draw 2 or 4 out of a hat and hope they don't make a couple of bad hires in a row.
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Sep 10, 2021 21:31
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Komet posted:No one ever talks about raiding the MAC because a) the MAC is probably the most stable of all G5 conferences and b) almost all MAC schools exist in the Big Ten footprint and bring no real revenue to anyone. And so many teams have had brief periods of being either really good or really bad over the last 20 years. Yea, the MAC is kind of funny how all of their schools are just completely covered by Big 10 fan bases. I think even a lot of MAC fans are probably fans of the nearest B1G school. Buffalo is the only school kind of out there on their own. MAC seems to be a pretty low point right now. Wasn't that long ago that you could have 2-3 MAC teams that could've been middle of the pack of a P5 conference, but right now it's pretty rough. Buffalo and Ball State were good last year, but 2019 was brutal for most of the conference. 2020 is hard to judge since the MAC only played conference games, so who the hell knows how good anyone was.
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Sep 10, 2021 21:33
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I could see Boise, SDSU, Utah State, and Nevada looking to position themselves as the core of a "new" national football conference. Those seem to be the teams that try hard and have had some measure of success over the last decade or two. Throw in Memphis, SMU, and ECU, and you have a trans-national football conference that is trying to be competitive. It clears Hawaii, and the California State schools from the conference too, which are big drags. You can bring in the service academies to get you to 10, and then add add, say, a Tulane and Tulsa or some up-and-coming Sun Belt team that is hungry to compete, or maybe a strong basketball mid-major that has a football program you could beat up on. Coastal Carolina and App State fit the profile. The 8 remaining teams in the AAC could make that sort of package deal for the 4 western teams, or they could go everyone for themselves and wind up in a similar situation.
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I wouldn't call Fresno State a "drag" on the MWC; it's been pretty consistently solid since I've been following college football. For a bi-coastal conference of that nature to work, I think you'd need to have at least 6 teams in the west that could form a full division. That way with an 8-game schedule you're only having to make 1 or 2 cross-country trips. It would probably have to be a football-only conference for either the western teams or the eastern ones. Hell, maybe the AAC just invites their 8 favorite MWC teams and calls it a day. General Dog fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Sep 10, 2021 |
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Sep 10, 2021 21:39
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I do hope SMU lands somewhere it can find success, on a pure stupid sentimental level I like all of Texas' big cities having a relevant and fun football program (besides Austin, obviously)
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Sep 10, 2021 21:39
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Bring me the B1G/MAC promotion/relegation agreement
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Sep 10, 2021 21:41
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Bring me the B1G/MAC promotion/relegation agreement I would trade Rutgers for Buffalo permanently. I love the city of Buffalo and it's only 3.5 hours from State College anyway. I just saw the Illinois plane fly over my house to the Charlottesville airport. I thought it was Southwest Airlines (which doesn't come here) until I checked flightaware.
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Sep 10, 2021 22:39
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There's a top 25 game on tonight. Also, it's a top 10 El Assico tomorrow.
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Sep 10, 2021 23:38
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Who cares about that I'm here for A&T beating Duke
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Sep 10, 2021 23:43
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I can respect that. 
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Sep 11, 2021 00:35
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Is there a gdt for the weekend yet? Anyways, KU didn't look too bad on that opening drive.
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Sep 11, 2021 00:43
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A page late but gently caress BYU
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TipTow posted:A page late but gently caress BYU Pretty sure that would get you kicked out
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Sep 11, 2021 01:18
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Komet posted:From the AAC commissioner: Rutgers when the Big Ten boots them out.
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Sep 11, 2021 03:01
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Seems like JT Daniels probably won’t play this weekend against UAB.
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Sep 11, 2021 03:25
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a neat cape posted:gently caress BYU https://twitter.com/rodger/status/1434357189964144641
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Sep 11, 2021 04:08
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i can't wait for another full action packed slate of football tomorrow.
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Sep 11, 2021 04:17
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LLCoolJD posted:Congrats to Goons whose programs are part of the new BigXII. I will be curious to see what the TV rights' value will look like. BYU and UCF in the same conference, hard to believe. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BITCH
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Sep 11, 2021 07:16
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also congratulations to the big xii for finally having a team that's won a natty in the playoff era.
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Sep 11, 2021 07:19
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zimbomonkey posted:also congratulations to the big xii for finally having a team that's won a natty in the playoff era. Lol I really hope they start claiming that
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Sep 11, 2021 13:16
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Komet posted:
Im pretty pleased about this and wish it held true for all the illini games in the eastern time zone. Just get them over with by noon Central if you can
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KKKLIP ART posted:Seems like JT Daniels probably won’t play this weekend against UAB. game has red loving flags all over it. Get ready for a slog.
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Oh God we're already 1/12 of the way through college football 
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