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KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.
I got my first internship after freshman year. GRANTED I GOT LAID OFF BEFORE I STARTED BECAUSE OF THE SEQUESTER but thats another story

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SeaBass
Dec 30, 2003

NERRRRRRDS!

spwrozek posted:

Worst they can say is no. Just go and do it.

Exactly. If they say no, come back the following year and try again.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
If you go for an internship position please be serious about it. Its no fun to fence with HR to get a position for a month then have the student quit 4 hours into it.

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
Did you hire the worst dude on earth or is your company just that awful to work for?

mitztronic
Jun 17, 2005

mixcloud.com/mitztronic

Uncle Jam posted:

If you go for an internship position please be serious about it. Its no fun to fence with HR to get a position for a month then have the student quit 4 hours into it.

Oh come on, you have to tell us more than that

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
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Thoguh fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Aug 10, 2023

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.

Thoguh posted:

Weren't you military first though? That's a much different background than most freshmen.

I was trying to be encouraging!

Eskaton
Aug 13, 2014

No Egrets posted:

I'm in my first semester for EE and my school is hosting a career fair for STEM students looking for internships. I already have an undergraduate degree in microbiology, but seeing as how I'm only in my first semester of engineering is it even worth dropping off a resume to these people or should I wait until after my first year? Thanks.

I'm just a few weeks a Michigan Tech and the career fair is a very big deal and all I hear is to go (GO GO GO) as a freshman. One time, General Motors hired nothing but freshman and many companies will be interested in you. Even if they wait for you to pop up next year, they'll know you already then.

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

Eskaton posted:

I'm just a few weeks a Michigan Tech and the career fair is a very big deal and all I hear is to go (GO GO GO) as a freshman. One time, General Motors hired nothing but freshman and many companies will be interested in you. Even if they wait for you to pop up next year, they'll know you already then.

It is one of the best fairs out there. Super go go go. (2 internships and 5 offers out of school in 2008 when the economy died)

Xeom
Mar 16, 2007
So I have this guy who used to TA a class of I was in on my linkedin. When I hit him up and ask him for some help finding a job do I just ask for a reference? Is all you need a name for the application? Or does it take more than that for it to matter?

SeXTcube
Jan 1, 2009

Uncle Jam posted:

If you go for an internship position please be serious about it. Its no fun to fence with HR to get a position for a month then have the student quit 4 hours into it.
I've had four internships and this happened in three of them with the other hire.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect

Steve Jorbs posted:

I've had four internships and this happened in three of them with the other hire.

This guy was a candidate and apparently he talked to his adviser and explained what projects we worked on to him (or what he thought the projects were, we don't really get on them until the 3 day orientation is done) and the adviser said it didn't match well enough with what the adviser's lab did. So he calmly left work, packed his bags, got a taxi to the airport, and called HR from the airport that afternoon.

Needless to say he burned a lot of bridges. We will totally negotiate with advisers about intern projects but he didn't even try. Usually the interns can expect a publication, and a few times we've sat on the defense committee. Plus its more than 30/hr.
We just assumed it was one of the rotten professors and held his visa status over his head when he realized he was going to lose out on $8/hr labor over the summer.

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

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Plasmafountain fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Feb 27, 2023

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
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Thoguh fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Aug 10, 2023

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

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Plasmafountain fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Feb 27, 2023

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice
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Thoguh fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Aug 10, 2023

Io_
Oct 15, 2012

woo woo

Pillbug
When I was doing cfd at University we had do it all on Unix workstations, which was always fun.

Odette
Mar 19, 2011

To the EEs, what PCB software do you guys use at work?

University has Altium, but there's not much support for it online (and it's not exactly cheap for students) whereas Eagle/etc seem to have plenty of support (tutorials, etc) floating around.

EDIT: I really like the 3D feature that Altium has, doesn't seem like a common thing.

KetTarma
Jul 25, 2003

Suffer not the lobbyist to live.
I've heard some really good things about the open-source program KiCad. Never used it though since I don't do anything with PCBs. The only CAD program I ever use is CATIA.

qsvui
Aug 23, 2003
some crazy thing
I use Altium at work. Before it was Protel. In fact, most of our projects are still in Protel.

I haven't seen that much online support for Altium but the documentation has covered everything that I was planning to do, even if some of the pages are outdated.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Odette posted:

To the EEs, what PCB software do you guys use at work?

University has Altium, but there's not much support for it online (and it's not exactly cheap for students) whereas Eagle/etc seem to have plenty of support (tutorials, etc) floating around.

EDIT: I really like the 3D feature that Altium has, doesn't seem like a common thing.

Altium. Most common in 'traditional' industry I've seen is Altium, OrCad/Allegro (Cadence) and Expedition (Mentor). Altium's got a derived free version out now I think (CircuitMaker?), no idea how good it is though.

Jyrraeth
Aug 1, 2008

I love this dino
SOOOO MUCH

I use Eagle at work, even though I rarely do circuit board design. Its support for tutorials is great and that's why I grabbed it. I think I have some freeware gerber viewer because I'm awful at remembering which rev my files are in, but aside from that I like Eagle.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect

Zero Gravitas posted:

Just started a masters in aerospace engineering. Does anyone have any good (cheap is also a plus!) recommendations for learning about the Boundary Element Method?

Find projects where you can use already developed tools and don't have to develop your own stuff ;)
Everyone and their brother who has developed some sort of solving software like that tries to commercialize it anyway.


Odette posted:

To the EEs, what PCB software do you guys use at work?

University has Altium, but there's not much support for it online (and it's not exactly cheap for students) whereas Eagle/etc seem to have plenty of support (tutorials, etc) floating around.

EDIT: I really like the 3D feature that Altium has, doesn't seem like a common thing.

I use KiCad at work, because I have a lot of my own code that interacts with the very easy to parse save files. There are a lot of niggles with it though cause its developed by people in their free time and all that. It can export/has integrated 3D features.

Altium isn't expensive, it is very cheap considering most software packages.

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

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Plasmafountain fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Feb 27, 2023

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect

Zero Gravitas posted:

Well, we have to use ABAQUS for the solution, but apparently the guy is expecting a report you could beat somebody to death with in which we have to go through the BEM in detail to try and derive approximate equations that we think ABAQUS is going to solve in its commercialised code.

EDIT:

Eg, we have to compare our own solution to one provided by Abaqus.

You have the ABAQUS Theory Manual, right?

Plasmafountain
Jun 17, 2008

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Plasmafountain fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Feb 27, 2023

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect

Zero Gravitas posted:

I had never even heard of it - I have never even used Abaqus before since our first comp lab with it is this week. Thanks for letting me know, it definitely explains what I had thought was particularly obtuse matrix notation in some other lectures.

How am I not surprised the prof probably never mentioned it. :v:

Xeom
Mar 16, 2007
So a big career fair is going down in Detroit, its the SHPE(Society of Hispanic Professional Engineers) yearly conference. Its a pretty big conference with lots of companies. Its 50 dollars just to attend, but I live in Florida and it would cost me around $400 dollars to attend in total; Possibly more if I have to stay a second night.

I am mostly interested in going because a few of the oil service companies are going. Schlumberger in particular interests me because they seem to be the best to work for, and I've also heard they will hire you at the career fairs as long as you aren't a complete idiot. Overall it seems that companies are more likely to hire you if you meet in person.

Basically I am desperate for a job. $400 dollars will hurt my family, but they are willing to help me out. But is it worth going to? Plenty of students do go, so it must be worth something, I am just worried about throwing money down the drain. Also worried about showing up as a graduate, it seems that its mostly people still in school that attend.

Goons should I go or not?

Doghouse
Oct 22, 2004

I was playing Harvest Moon 64 with this kid who lived on my street and my cows were not doing well and I got so raged up and frustrated that my eyes welled up with tears and my friend was like are you crying dude. Are you crying because of the cows. I didn't understand the feeding mechanic.
My wife has worked for the first couple of years after school as an engineer at a big aerospace/defense firm and recently her computer basically has barely been working. She has spent over a month going around in circles with help desk - apparently there is a company policy that they won't replace computers, only try to fix them, but nothing is working. She's spending all of her time calling help desk and struggling to get anything to work, and she's falling behind on deadlines, etc. And her manager basically tells her that her hands are tied and that there's nothing they can do.

This seems like insanity to me. Does anyone have any insights about this or how to handle it? She's been a miserable wreck at home and I told her that I would aggressively start looking for a new job. She's a bit hesitant because she generally likes the company and her job otherwise.

BeefofAges
Jun 5, 2004

Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the cows of war.

Do something subtle that irreparably kills the computer?

Hed
Mar 31, 2004

Fun Shoe
This sounds like a really bad company or ineffective manager. She probably should look for a new position anyway!

Xeom posted:

So a big career fair is going down in Detroit, its the SHPE(Society of Hispanic Professional Engineers) yearly conference. Its a pretty big conference with lots of companies. Its 50 dollars just to attend, but I live in Florida and it would cost me around $400 dollars to attend in total; Possibly more if I have to stay a second night.

I am mostly interested in going because a few of the oil service companies are going. Schlumberger in particular interests me because they seem to be the best to work for, and I've also heard they will hire you at the career fairs as long as you aren't a complete idiot. Overall it seems that companies are more likely to hire you if you meet in person.

Basically I am desperate for a job. $400 dollars will hurt my family, but they are willing to help me out. But is it worth going to? Plenty of students do go, so it must be worth something, I am just worried about throwing money down the drain. Also worried about showing up as a graduate, it seems that its mostly people still in school that attend.

Goons should I go or not?

Where did you hear that it is a sure fire thing? If you trust that knowledge and have no alternatives, I guess so. If you know literally anyone else in the industry or can generate leads another way, say asking the company if they do any events within driving distance, then that would seem a larger ROI.

RogueLemming
Sep 11, 2006

Spinning or Deformed?

Xeom posted:

So a big career fair is going down in Detroit, its the SHPE(Society of Hispanic Professional Engineers) yearly conference. Its a pretty big conference with lots of companies. Its 50 dollars just to attend, but I live in Florida and it would cost me around $400 dollars to attend in total; Possibly more if I have to stay a second night.

I am mostly interested in going because a few of the oil service companies are going. Schlumberger in particular interests me because they seem to be the best to work for, and I've also heard they will hire you at the career fairs as long as you aren't a complete idiot. Overall it seems that companies are more likely to hire you if you meet in person.

Basically I am desperate for a job. $400 dollars will hurt my family, but they are willing to help me out. But is it worth going to? Plenty of students do go, so it must be worth something, I am just worried about throwing money down the drain. Also worried about showing up as a graduate, it seems that its mostly people still in school that attend.

Goons should I go or not?

This doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Career fairs are hit or miss as is, I just can't imagine traveling across the country when you can't afford to is worth it. Also consider that the career fair is so far away from where you live you'll probably get a lot of "I'll pass your resume along to someone in that region" and you'll be no better off. I feel like there has to be a better way to make yourself known to these companies.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
Also its hard to imagine that SchlumberJ won't have a recruit-off somewhere closer. I would save your time and energy to do something else.

If I rep'd at a fair and some guy told me he literally drove across the country to come to this particular career fair I would :wtc:

Xeom
Mar 16, 2007

RogueLemming posted:

This doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Career fairs are hit or miss as is, I just can't imagine traveling across the country when you can't afford to is worth it. Also consider that the career fair is so far away from where you live you'll probably get a lot of "I'll pass your resume along to someone in that region" and you'll be no better off. I feel like there has to be a better way to make yourself known to these companies.


Uncle Jam posted:

Also its hard to imagine that SchlumberJ won't have a recruit-off somewhere closer. I would save your time and energy to do something else.

If I rep'd at a fair and some guy told me he literally drove across the country to come to this particular career fair I would :wtc:

But everyone does? I know at least 40 students from FSU are going to it, and probably the same amount from UF. As far as I know more people attend from out of state than in. I think the recruiters full well know almost everyone will be from out of town. Its kinda a yearly national conference that changes location every year. I talked to the current leader of SHPE at FSU, and hes paying 300 dollars to be able to go to all the events (walk through / dinner and drinks with all the recruiters).

I would love to attend a closer career fair, but I live in a literal dead zone when it comes to chemical engineering. Its called south Florida, and unless you do construction(maybe electrical/mechanical) you are screwed. The two local schools FIU and UM don't even have chemical engineering programs, its why I had to go upstate for school. Overall south Florida just doesn't have much industry, its all tourism based.

I literally don't know what to do. Because applying online seems completely useless. My plan if nothing works out, is to work a minimum wage job here. Save up few hundred dollars then drive up to ND and work the oil fields starting may. I figure once I am out there I can work my way into some sort of engineering position. Everyone says you can get a job in ND, so its where I am headed.

Frinkahedron
Jul 26, 2006

Gobble Gobble
I have never heard of any of my former classmates flying to another city for a career fair, but my university hosted a few per year, so YMMV.

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone

Xeom posted:

But everyone does? I know at least 40 students from FSU are going to it, and probably the same amount from UF. As far as I know more people attend from out of state than in. I think the recruiters full well know almost everyone will be from out of town. Its kinda a yearly national conference that changes location every year. I talked to the current leader of SHPE at FSU, and hes paying 300 dollars to be able to go to all the events (walk through / dinner and drinks with all the recruiters).

I would love to attend a closer career fair, but I live in a literal dead zone when it comes to chemical engineering. Its called south Florida, and unless you do construction(maybe electrical/mechanical) you are screwed. The two local schools FIU and UM don't even have chemical engineering programs, its why I had to go upstate for school. Overall south Florida just doesn't have much industry, its all tourism based.

I literally don't know what to do. Because applying online seems completely useless. My plan if nothing works out, is to work a minimum wage job here. Save up few hundred dollars then drive up to ND and work the oil fields starting may. I figure once I am out there I can work my way into some sort of engineering position. Everyone says you can get a job in ND, so its where I am headed.

Do you have any friends or family in cities without completely dead job markets? I think you are focusing too much on how hosed you are and not enough on reasonable solutions to the problem.

Uncle Jam
Aug 20, 2005

Perfect
^^^^ Yeah that's more to the point than my stream of conscious questioning.

I dunno man, maybe those people already have money and $400 is nothing to them. Also, that one guy gets to say 'I'm the president of our FSU branch' and has an immediate in with everyone. Of course he is going to go.

FSU doesn't have a career fair? There's no professional societies in Florida that have career fairs?

I mean, $400 is a drop in the bucket for a career thing if you believe that there is a great chance for you there. I don't know your resume or anything, but career fairs are generally ultra competitive and this one sounds kind of insane (80 people from just two universities, and this is a national thing?).
Also, there are other companies than big mega-conglomerates. Most of whom you'll never see at a career fair, and are perfectly fine to work for. Did you specialize in oil service ChemE?

And if you're going to work a bad job, why not do so nearer to a ChemE hub? I guess there are some ChemEs in the fields of ND, but do you really want to live there?

spwrozek
Sep 4, 2006

Sail when it's windy

FWIW Schlumburger seems to hire anyone will to run a crew in the middle of nowhere for 3 years. stick it out and make a ton of money and then you get an office job. (at least this is how it was in 2008).

I would give it a shot. It is not a school sponsored thing so I would say people expect out of towners. Sucks to be out $400 if you don't get interviews but you need a job.

I would check to see if they are doing onsite interviews though (not just Schlumburger but most of the companies) and if they are not going to it is a waste of time.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Doghouse posted:

My wife has worked for the first couple of years after school as an engineer at a big aerospace/defense firm and recently her computer basically has barely been working. She has spent over a month going around in circles with help desk - apparently there is a company policy that they won't replace computers, only try to fix them, but nothing is working. She's spending all of her time calling help desk and struggling to get anything to work, and she's falling behind on deadlines, etc. And her manager basically tells her that her hands are tied and that there's nothing they can do.

This seems like insanity to me. Does anyone have any insights about this or how to handle it? She's been a miserable wreck at home and I told her that I would aggressively start looking for a new job. She's a bit hesitant because she generally likes the company and her job otherwise.

That's so incredibly hosed. I'm tempted to follow the recommendation of 'killing' the machine so they're forced to give her a new one. What kind of moronic corporation / IT department puts their employees through that poo poo? (rhetorical question, I know)

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The Chairman
Jun 30, 2003

But you forget, mon ami, that there is evil everywhere under the sun
I think it'd be worth going to that event, since it's a national professional conference and not a local/regional job fair.

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