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Forgall posted:http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/22/palmer-luckey-the-facebook-billionaire-secretly-funding-trump-s-meme-machine.html There are already game devs pulling support over this
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Sep 23, 2016 20:28
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the talent deficit posted:how is it not cheaper and more effective to hire early and fire early? Because this is a terrible experience for everyone involved? The employee who likely gave up a position to join the company who now has to figure out how to pay rent/a mortgage on unemployment and the employer who has to go back through the hire process and watch their unemployment tax burden jump (unless they say it's for cause in which case it's a double gently caress-you to the employee)
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Sep 23, 2016 20:29
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Good job yahoo, noticing that data breach from two years ago
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Sep 23, 2016 20:32
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Femtosecond posted:There are already game devs pulling support over this Good, IMO.
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Sep 23, 2016 20:41
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Arsenic Lupin posted:This is stretching out longer than Francisco Franco's death. He's still dead right? SNL stopped giving status updates decades ago.
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Sep 23, 2016 21:03
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Femtosecond posted:There are already game devs pulling support over this Which ones, and why? The founder of a piece of tech has opinions you dislike. How is that an issue? And I dislike his opinions.
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Sep 23, 2016 21:04
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Racism shouldn't be an acceptable opinion.
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Sep 23, 2016 21:10
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Non Serviam posted:Which ones, and why? Maybe they believe in social responsibility as a guiding concept and don't want to reward someone who hold lovely opinions
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rscott posted:Maybe they believe in social responsibility as a guiding concept and don't want to reward someone who hold lovely opinions Palmer is rewarded more by changes in $FB than by dev support for the Rift, but I still applaud the gesture.
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Sep 23, 2016 21:13
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Kobayashi posted:Racism shouldn't be an acceptable opinion. But political correctness! Freedom of speech! Gamer gate! Mra! Pua! Fat acceptance
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Sep 23, 2016 21:45
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Non Serviam posted:Which ones, and why? https://twitter.com/polytron/status/779392568425455616 I think I heard there's more. Presumably people don't want to have any part in enriching Luckey or they just want to send a message to Luckeys bosses.
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Sep 23, 2016 21:44
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Palmer's bosses better not do anything in response to his political speech or they'll be coughing up big lawsuit bucks. Off-duty political activity is protected in California (thankfully). The ~~free market~~ can of course react as it deems appropriate, which will be nice.
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Sep 23, 2016 21:54
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Can they react to losing customers though?
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Probably not, given that devs aren't the customers and they'd have a hard time showing a link. Also, given the amount of "boycott" noise that the FB acquisition generated, I think it would be a tricky case to make. Subjunctive fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Sep 23, 2016 |
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Twitter said to be in sales negotiations. An offer is expected "by year-end", and Google and Salesforce are said to be the frontrunners. In other news, Generalissima Marissa Mayer is still fired...
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Sep 24, 2016 01:13
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fordan posted:Because this is a terrible experience for everyone involved? The employee who likely gave up a position to join the company who now has to figure out how to pay rent/a mortgage on unemployment and the employer who has to go back through the hire process and watch their unemployment tax burden jump (unless they say it's for cause in which case it's a double gently caress-you to the employee) Also, future people are less likely to take a job offer if they know there's a reputation for early firings.
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Liquid Communism posted:H1B reform isn't because there's a lack of candidates. LOL, no. I think you underestimate the average H1B salary. http://h1bwage.com/ Edit: 2016 info http://www.h1bdata.info/
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hobbesmaster posted:Can they react to losing customers though? HTC's Vive was already outselling the Rift. Game devs dropping support for the Rift is just going to widen the gap.
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Pixelboy posted:LOL, no. I think you underestimate the average H1B salary. wait doesnt that proove his point? they want to reform it to increase supply, driving down those prices
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Kobayashi posted:Racism shouldn't be an acceptable opinion. It's a legal one to have though. Not to mention that nothing on that link says he's a racist. Of course, you can say every Trump supporter is a racist, including the (granted, few) poc that are part of it, of course, but then you're just coming off as a bit of an rear end. "I don't like the opinions that he holds in private, and which have no bearing on this piece of tech or the company producing it" is a really idiotic reason to boycott. The fact is that every CEO of every company has opinions that may are may not be repulsive to you, but as long as that doesn't play a role in the company's business, you shouldn't care. Also, the Daily Beast article repeats that pro Gawker mantra of Peter Thiel being eeeeeevil, as if the fact that he bankrolled legitimate suit somehow takes legitimacy away from it. gently caress Trump, though.
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Sep 24, 2016 09:21
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Non Serviam posted:Which ones, and why?
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Sep 24, 2016 09:34
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Forgall posted:Using your wealth to create megaphone for hate speech is just an opinion, maaaaan. Actually, it is. I'm sorry you don't understand what the word "opinion" means.
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Sep 24, 2016 09:44
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Non Serviam posted:Actually, it is. I'm sorry you don't understand what the word "opinion" means. Your really owning that red text ain't ya?
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Josef bugman posted:Your really owning that red text ain't ya? Because I said what the meaning of "opinion" is? You do realize I don't need to agree with him to say that, right? I like the thread, this will just lead to a derail. Move along.
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Sep 24, 2016 09:56
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I think people know what an opinion is. But just because you have one doesn't mean that spouting that poo poo off can't or won't have consequences and people choose who they fraternize with all the time based on opinions
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Sep 24, 2016 09:59
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blackguy32 posted:I think people know what an opinion is. But just because you have one doesn't mean that spouting that poo poo off can't or won't have consequences and people choose who they fraternize with all the time based on opinions I think it's legitimate to not hang out with the guy if you think his opinions are poo poo. It's also legitimate not to do business with him if you don't want, I just think, in the case of something like a piece of tech that has no ideological bias (as opposed to a restaurant that doesn't cater to gays, for example) is pointless, since his opinions are not touching the tech. Edit. To be clear, I'm not questioning whether it's legal or legitimate to not do business with the company. Of course it is.
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Sep 24, 2016 10:05
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You're basically giving him money to spend on "shitposting" by buying a Rift, so I think not wanting to do that is fairly uncontroversial.
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mobby_6kl posted:You're basically giving him money to spend on "shitposting" by buying a Rift, so I think not wanting to do that is fairly uncontroversial.
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Toplowtech posted:Do you believe none of the share holders of the other VR brands (or most company you spend money on in fact) don't give money to the Trump campaign? Realistically a small amount of the money you spend is going to end up on both campaign accounts.
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Sep 24, 2016 12:47
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Forgall posted:Giving money to campaign is a bit more abstract that giving it directly to abusive creeps I see on the internet daily. Both are evil of course, but latter is more personal.
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Sep 24, 2016 13:12
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Toplowtech posted:I don't think getting him fired of Occulus for a 10 000$ donation to some "troll group" will do anything but encourage him to spend more money trolling people. The guy personal fortune is still 700 million according to Forbes, i don't think going after him will make it less personal and will reduce the amount of creeps trolling around you. But if you feel like you must do something, please it's free country. But wasn't he bought out by Facebook? Even in the Daily Beast story they weren't sure about where he supposedly works
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Sep 24, 2016 13:16
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I think employment gets hazy once your net worth closes in on that ninth zero.
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Non Serviam posted:I think it's legitimate to not hang out with the guy if you think his opinions are poo poo. It's also legitimate not to do business with him if you don't want, I just think, in the case of something like a piece of tech that has no ideological bias (as opposed to a restaurant that doesn't cater to gays, for example) is pointless, since his opinions are not touching the tech. It's pointless to you because you don't give a poo poo about racism and bigotry clearly
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Non Serviam posted:It's a legal one to have though. Not to mention that nothing on that link says he's a racist. Your'e wrong.
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^^^ K. rscott posted:It's pointless to you because you don't give a poo poo about racism and bigotry clearly I'm sure you can vouch for all the executives that participate in every company whose products you use. Of course, you only buy products from companies with the Right Opinions®. Can you share a list with us, so that we can all demonstrate how much we care about racism and bigotry?
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Non Serviam posted:I'm sure you can vouch for all the executives that participate in every company whose products you use. I can certainly vouch for one, and make very public decisions based on that information.
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Sep 24, 2016 18:27
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Non Serviam posted:I'm sure you can vouch for all the executives that participate in every company whose products you use.
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Non Serviam posted:^^^ Oh no, you're right, some people might be racists, now we're incapable of action against those who definitely are.  Unless you're saying that boycott is weak-sauce bougie bullshit, and we should be punishing this guy more directly. In which case, right on, drat.
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Toplowtech posted:Do you believe none of the share holders of the other VR brands (or most company you spend money on in fact) don't give money to the Trump campaign? Realistically a small amount of the money you spend is going to end up on both campaign accounts. I doubt that the execs of the Korean, Taiwanese or Japanese companies making the competing VR headsets are donating to the Trump campaign.
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