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NumberLast posted:Well, gently caress Luckily we only need to fix a few of them to turn things around and thats definitely one of the must haves.
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Powercrazy posted:Nice. 
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Venom Snake posted:it's either incredibly sad or amazingly uplifting that the left is going to regain control of the democratic party with only very minor resistance. If you went back in time and told yourself that progressives would take control of the DNC with the support of chuck schumer would you believe yourself. "That kind of factional unity only comes on the back of a major catastrophe, like 9/11 or... wait... no, it can't be... let me see that paper!" *wrestles newspaper from future self and reads headline* "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
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i was all hyped and fired to go, ready to use my 2008 organizing chops to fight for the dnc chair, but all of the opponents have no one who will come out and support them lol
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Venom Snake posted:it's either incredibly sad or amazingly uplifting that the left is going to regain control of the democratic party with only very minor resistance. If you went back in time and told yourself that progressives would take control of the DNC with the support of chuck schumer would you believe yourself. I will only be sad if we don't overcome our illiberal opposition to anyone who disagrees with us. (WE being the left. I've never been a democrat.)
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Venom Snake posted:it's either incredibly sad or amazingly uplifting that the left is going to regain control of the democratic party with only very minor resistance. If you went back in time and told yourself that progressives would take control of the DNC with the support of chuck schumer would you believe yourself. Something crazy would have to happen before I believed that, like Hillary losing to Trump or something....
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loquacius posted:"That kind of factional unity only comes on the back of a major catastrophe, like 9/11 or... wait... no, it can't be... let me see that paper!" *wrestles newspaper from future self and reads headline* "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" The reaction to "Donald Trump Elected President" is very different, depending on what past year you find out.
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Zikan posted:i was all hyped and fired to go, ready to use my 2008 organizing chops to fight for the dnc chair, but all of the opponents have no one who will come out and support them lol still worth pushing as hard as possible so the message is as loud as possible also I'm going to a college dems meeting this evening somehow I never went to one when I was a student
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Yeah i mean its nice but have they seen the light, is this not actually as good as it seems, or are they really this spineless?
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 Enormous pressure on him right now. The entire party is watching. Zikan posted:i was all hyped and fired to go, ready to use my 2008 organizing chops to fight for the dnc chair, but all of the opponents have no one who will come out and support them lol Your making history friend.
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bump_fn posted:https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/798281831359463424 it's a result of lousianna dumbass jungle election system. it's an extreme longshot that he wins unless the anger over a trump presidency can cause a good campaign and a ton of money to come in and pull a 20 point upset
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GlyphGryph posted:Yeah i mean its nice but have they seen the light, is this not actually as good as it seems, or are they really this spineless? I suspect a lot of centrists are actually sympathetic with more left positions. They only take up that position because they felt that those harder-left positions were unelectable or electoral poison. I mean, it's in the name. Incrementalism. So now that it turns out centrism isn't more electable, well then. And the rest of them are probably either: 1. Spineless; 2. Rich people who realize that the New Deal was called that because the rich made the deal of giving money and support to the poor so they wouldn't get lynched by the poor (the same reason Bismarck supported social security and welfare!)
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NumberLast posted:It's not about purity it's about having a comprehensive and consistent platform that you stick to. Though like not doing anything remotely close to corruption would be nice.
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Zikan posted:keith ellison update: civil war looks more like a palace coup a mostly-bloodless palace coup with the populists as the winners is best for everyone at this point imo
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Lastgirl posted:what is this, msnbc? Chris Hays will be interviewing Keith on MSNBC yeah
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MrCussMustard posted:I will only be sad if we don't overcome our illiberal opposition to anyone who disagrees with us. (WE being the left. I've never been a democrat.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCnEAH5wCzo got yer rural outreach right here, city boys 
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platzapS posted:Tim Faust, who made the "Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer" t-shirt and promotes the arts, says: You know this article is hilariously wrong because it implies that data comes from NGPVAN. Edit: I can't actually think of a better overreaction than making GBS threads all over data as a way of explaining the election. Data isn't perfect, but a lot of failures can be explained by poor application f data rather than data inaccuracies. Moreover, data is getting more accurate all the time as models get new information. We can't throw out one of our best advantages as a party. Democrazy has issued a correction as of 23:41 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Well What Now posted:a mostly-bloodless palace coup with the populists as the winners is best for everyone at this point imo Assuming it isn't followed by 4 years of bitter Clintonites claiming Keith is an illegitimate pretender to the throne.
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MJ12 posted:2. Rich people who realize that the New Deal was called that because the rich made the deal of giving money and support to the poor so they wouldn't get lynched by the poor (the same reason Bismarck supported social security and welfare!) Theil will have his tea with the Czar in hell
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MJ12 posted:I suspect a lot of centrists are actually sympathetic with more left positions. They only take up that position because they felt that those harder-left positions were unelectable or electoral poison. I mean, it's in the name. Incrementalism. So now that it turns out centrism isn't more electable, well then.
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Freemason Rush Week posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCnEAH5wCzo http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/11/14/trump-liberal-college-campuses-michigan-yale-glenn-reynolds-column/93765568/ Might I suggest N Korea if you want to hold a monopoly on democracy?
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Fulchrum posted:People don't join the Democrats to line their pockets and suppress people when there is a perfectly good fygm party right there. Democrats all have the same goal they are working towards, there was just a disagreement on how to achieve that. Why would you expect a long drawn out and ultimately self serving fight if the self is not what these people want to serve? oh god please Fulchrum do not bring this poo poo here
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Venom Snake posted:oh god please Fulchrum do not bring this poo poo here
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Fulchrum posted:People don't join the Democrats to line their pockets and suppress people when there is a perfectly good fygm party right there. I don't believe you on that one quote:At the Goldman Sachs Builders and Innovators Summit, Clinton responded to a question from chief executive Lloyd Blankfein, who quipped that you “go to Washington” to “make a small fortune.” Clinton agreed with the comment and complained about ethics rules that require officials. to divest from certain assets before entering government. “There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives,” Clinton said.
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Vox Nihili posted:Assuming it isn't followed by 4 years of bitter Clintonites claiming Keith is an illegitimate pretender to the throne. If he can deliver in 2018 and turn the tide back against the Republicans absolutely no-one in the party is going to say poo poo to or about the guy. If. Getting him in is all well and good, but he still must prove himself.
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Fulchrum posted:just poo poo posting False alarm, guys.
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Fulchrum posted:If he can deliver in 2018 and turn the tide back against the Republicans absolutely no-one in the party is going to say poo poo to or about the guy. God how can you be so awful in one post then actually make a coherent point the very next one. Even though I am currently plunging a knife into my chest in shame I do agree there will be a lot of pressure to preform.
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Venom Snake posted:https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/798293779232919552 It should embolden the rest of us that you've regained your faith in the past week.
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LinYutang posted:lol at the democrats thinking that Minority Group would save their hide just because This is why Dems who are betting Texas will become blue soon are kidding themselves. Most Mexicans in the state identify as Conservative. Significantly more than any other state in the country. temple posted:That was my point to a degree in response to the tweets about dems being a failed group or consultancy. Dems actually have to lead and legislate, so its harder than what reps have to do. Republicans just have to destroy, obstruct, or stall. They don't have to come up with solutions. They don't represent anything which is why an orange con-man could take over their party in one election. Dems often fail or get bought out but that's due for the course of living in a capitalistic world. The country actually supports most of the progressive stuff, has historically supported those policies, created a working democracy for most people, and dems have to figure out how to make it better. Its dumb to bash the dems as an whole (Clintons excluded because they are hack frauds) or praise republicans because the two parties serve fundamentally different roles in our politics. None of this excuses the Dems complete lack of effort for catching the legislation branch for almost a decade, lacking a coherent vision, and idiotic "demographics is destiny" type strategies . They brought this on themselves and should be blamed as much as possible. This cataclysmic gently caress up has been decades in the making. punk rebel ecks has issued a correction as of 23:59 on Nov 14, 2016 |
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Venom Snake posted:Even though I am currently plunging a knife into my chest in shame One must imagine Sisyphus happy. 
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punk rebel ecks posted:None of this excuses the Dems complete lack of effort for catching the legislation branch for almost a decade, lacking a coherent vision, and idiotic "demographics is destiny" type strategies . They brought this on themselves and should be blamed as much as possible. This cataclysmic gently caress up has been decades in the making. He says Clintons excluded. You say decades in the making. I see common ground. E: To be fair, I mean more so any dem who thought the presidency came with a throne and scepter. I don't know how much any one person should be blamed for the "coronation" philosophy that poisoned this cycle. GlobglogGroAbgalab has issued a correction as of 00:01 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Zikan posted:it's a result of lousianna dumbass jungle election system. it's an extreme longshot that he wins unless the anger over a trump presidency can cause a good campaign and a ton of money to come in and pull a 20 point upset The jungle system is a drat sight better than FPTP
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Venom Snake posted:it's either incredibly sad or amazingly uplifting that the left is going to regain control of the democratic party with only very minor resistance. If you went back in time and told yourself that progressives would take control of the DNC with the support of chuck schumer would you believe yourself. My god man. We've found the original monkey paw.
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