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McFrugal posted:I guess. Also there's some quest in the questbook that gives a ridiculously beefy node so technically you don't have to jar one. Unless that's locked behind something you need a jarred node for? I dunno. Yeah, after you beat the T7 planet dungeon you can get a free 1000 Instrumentum node. Because of this, I will generally limp along with primal shrooms until then. You never need to tap a node to refill your wand in GTNH.
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Does it tell you that in advance? Like is there a bit in some quest that points out you can power through and get a free node later, or choose to set up the infrastructure to make one in the meantime?
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midnight77 posted:i wish more modpacks would take a page out of GTNH book and have a decent questbook. Heh, I got tired of playing through packs where the progression is 'get a quest to make a thing, make it, turn in the quest, get a quest to make the next thing along', which informed how I did quests in my pack. That said I have toyed with the idea of making two different quest chapters: one for the 'I can figure it out myself' type and one for the 'I'd like to be guided please' type. That might be an interesting project.
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Vib Rib posted:Does it tell you that in advance? Like is there a bit in some quest that points out you can power through and get a free node later, or choose to set up the infrastructure to make one in the meantime? No, it does not. I only know this because I've progressed to that point. The quest is even hidden, so you can't see it via any means until you hit the prereqs. To be honest, it's kind of a min-maxing grognard decision. Most folks won't make it to UV tier when you can actually complete the quest; dangling that in front of them might be counterproductive.
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UV takes such an absurdly long time to get to for a new player that it's really not even worth discussing. Vib, your one single bugbear is not at all a thing a new player should worry about, either. for reference that's after the "final goal" threefold set out for his current playthrough, and he's only on t3 planets. you don't need TC or TF at all to get your first EBF, or to build your first rocket, both good challenging achievable goals for a new player. I'm in early LuV and have hardly touched magic mods, and then only for fun, really. and a couple qol things like boots of the traveler, moss balls, and a translocation focus. i have some primal shrooms and that's it. serves me just fine.
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You don't need to open the Twilight Forest for that stuff, but you should. However, no TF setpiece progression is required; for the main tech progression, it's only used as a mining dimension for silver, nickel, and gems.
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 tinkers tables set up, and a little test cactus farm that doesnt seem to ever grow for some reason  my abode  added a bit more farm  quest progress! edit: i raided my nearby village and stole all their tinkers patterns, am i a bad person edit: gently caress yeah first tinkers tools done  god the efficiency jump being able to just repair a tool with a single flint, mygod queeb fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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While the TF is not required, per se, I found it nice to be able to just take a break from machine stuff and go exploring. I was also unlocking a fair bit of TC4 stuff just to do so, so I did have to go for harder bosses eventuallyqueeb posted:
Nice little setup you have here. I dunno why the cacti aren't growing but just letting you know they don't need water flowing besides them.
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FPzero posted:While the TF is not required, per se, I found it nice to be able to just take a break from machine stuff and go exploring. I was also unlocking a fair bit of TC4 stuff just to do so, so I did have to go for harder bosses eventually yeah that was just to collect the stuff popping off, was going to try the string and block of sand automation thing edit: also yay got this guy going 
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queeb posted:yeah that was just to collect the stuff popping off, was going to try the string and block of sand automation thing In that case, I wonder if the cacti blocks were deleting themselves as they pop off, since they can destroy themselves when packed together tightly. I don't recall ever needing that much cacti as I progressed, so you could probably get away with handling them manually and still get about the same if not more cacti than if this string method is accidentally voiding the drops.
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FPzero posted:In that case, I wonder if the cacti blocks were deleting themselves as they pop off, since they can destroy themselves when packed together tightly. I don't recall ever needing that much cacti as I progressed, so you could probably get away with handling them manually and still get about the same if not more cacti than if this string method is accidentally voiding the drops. oh yeah that is definitely what happened, i broke them all and only got 2 cactus out of it, the others must have been destroyed lol, i'll space them out more. i saw that you can replace 8 cactus with 1 water in some recipes but its actually not hard at all to get water where i am so i probably dont need it at all
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queeb posted:oh yeah that is definitely what happened, i broke them all and only got 2 cactus out of it, the others must have been destroyed lol, i'll space them out more. yeah, cactus for water is a tactic of last resort for people who spawn in a desert and won't move for some reason, if you've got a medium-sized body of water nearby you can just not bother with cactus at all
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AceClown posted:I think if I was going to recommend an onboarding to mods pack it would probably be Stoneblock 3 tbh, it's got a solid quest book, it's short enough that makes the pack "winnable" and the quest book is pretty solid. I really didn't like stoneblock's questbook. A large percentage of the quest tabs were "and here are an unordered list of things in this mod!"
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is it normal to think "drat this coke oven is slow" and instantly start to build more
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queeb posted:is it normal to think "drat this coke oven is slow" and instantly start to build more perfectly normal. i had 14 by the time i retired them. eventually you'll probably want to fully automate them which will require GT pump and conveyor covers. not something you have to worry about just yet, though.
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Hooplah posted:perfectly normal. i had 14 by the time i retired them. eventually you'll probably want to fully automate them which will require GT pump and conveyor covers. not something you have to worry about just yet, though. i feel like im gonna be able to watch a ton of shows while i grind away. current GTNH status: enjoying greatly
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Coke oven tips: coke ovens will accumulate lots of creosote oil, and eventually clog the oven so it can't work any more. Do not be shy about wasting or voiding it, you will have a ton. Creosote oil buckets smelt 32 items in a furnace, so they are excellent furnace fuel. If you want to empty the coke oven and delete the creosote oil, mine out the bottom center block. (Then place it back down to re-form the coke oven.) Also, make a rainforest oak sapling. You can craft it. It makes a bonkers huge tree and drops more saplings. You only need to craft one.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:Coke oven tips: coke ovens will accumulate lots of creosote oil, and eventually clog the oven so it can't work any more. Do not be shy about wasting or voiding it, you will have a ton. Creosote oil buckets smelt 32 items in a furnace, so they are excellent furnace fuel. If you want to empty the coke oven and delete the creosote oil, mine out the bottom center block. (Then place it back down to re-form the coke oven.) is there a fast way to cut that down, im already raging at these loving cherry trees with logs stuck up in the leaves
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queeb posted:is there a fast way to cut that down, im already raging at these loving cherry trees with logs stuck up in the leaves Unbreakable tinker lumber axe
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queeb posted:is there a fast way to cut that down, im already raging at these loving cherry trees with logs stuck up in the leaves The classic: TiC lumber axe.
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queeb posted:is there a fast way to cut that down, im already raging at these loving cherry trees with logs stuck up in the leaves If you've made it into the nether, you can make a netherrack lumberaxe, use it repeatedly until it has 10 upgrade slots, and then add Reinforced X to it to make it indestructable. Netherrack is useful because it levels quickly. edit: beaten like ore in a macerator
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The lumber axe is gated behind steel and at a minimum a steam compressor/macerator, unfortunately, so for a Stone Age guy it's gonna be the hard way. If you don't want to deal with cutting down huge trees, just plant birch, they never grow tall no matter how you cluster their saplings.
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Hooplah posted:UV takes such an absurdly long time to get to for a new player that it's really not even worth discussing. Vib, your one single bugbear is not at all a thing a new player should worry about, either.
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I got through my early wood needs planting 2x2 spruce, cutting a tight spiral stairway to the top and then grabbing the rest on my way down.
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oh, finding ores, is going to the centre of each ore chunk and digging a spiral down the best way? its working ok so far, found a copper and some other stuff, no tin or iron yet
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queeb posted:oh, finding ores, is going to the centre of each ore chunk and digging a spiral down the best way? its working ok so far, found a copper and some other stuff, no tin or iron yet Until you get the ore finding wand, yeah, that's how you do it. Once you find gold and redstone and get some hand tools, you can make the ore finder wand. Load it up with a sample and walk around, and it'll eventually make a horrible noise and populate your visual prospecting. Make sure to press F9 three times so you can get a blue wireframe drawn through the exact center of a 3x3 ore chunk.
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Vib Rib posted:Sorry my obvious joke insulted your sacred cow modpack but just for the record I am also in the middle of and enjoying a GT:NH playthrough so I'm not actually trying to tear it down apologies, updating GTNH_enjoyers.xlsx now
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I should get back to GTNH at some point. It'd probably be less frustrating than trying to close the distance between creative RF and creative vending in Nomifactory.  Trying to parallelize draconic fusion crafting makes me crave death.
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Kyrosiris posted:I should get back to GTNH at some point. It'd probably be less frustrating than trying to close the distance between creative RF and creative vending in Nomifactory. name items so they don't stack  (this is part of how you automate the assline in gtnh, which works surprisingly similarly)
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:name items so they don't stack Oh, you mean so that you can do things in stack mode? I've just been making GBS threads out more rings of injectors and duplicating the pattern on another ME interface->AA interface->item laser relay setup. It's just establishing a proper ring of injectors that is the worst.
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Arrath posted:I got through my early wood needs planting 2x2 spruce, cutting a tight spiral stairway to the top and then grabbing the rest on my way down. queeb posted:oh, finding ores, is going to the centre of each ore chunk and digging a spiral down the best way? its working ok so far, found a copper and some other stuff, no tin or iron yet Hooplah posted:apologies, updating GTNH_enjoyers.xlsx now
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hmm, so the quest book wants me to turn in ore blocks, but when i mine ore i only get the dusts, is there a way to get the actual blocks for the questbook? edit: oh seems like its material dependent, mined some iron and thats giving me the blocks queeb fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Apr 3, 2024 |
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queeb posted:hmm, so the quest book wants me to turn in ore blocks, but when i mine ore i only get the dusts, is there a way to get the actual blocks for the questbook? You may be thinking of small ores, which can spawn at basically any elevation and drop dusts when broken. Actual ore blocks primarily occur in a vein of like 6-10 thick at an elevation within the range quoted in NEI's Ore Vein Info tab, and drop blocks when mined. You probably just need to go deeper. Arrath fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Apr 3, 2024 |
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Arrath posted:You may be thinking of small ores, which can spawn at basically any elevation and drop dusts when broken. Actual ore blocks primarily occur in a vein of like 6-10 thick at an elevation within the range quoted in NEI's Ore Vein Info tab, and drop blocks when mined. ok yeah that makes perfect sense, the small ancillery ores will drop dusts, but the main ores of that node will come as blocks edit: drat ive found 3 diamond veins, no tin yet queeb fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Apr 3, 2024 |
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last page or two makes me wish i hadn't lost my UHV GTNH game to a hard drive crashqueeb posted:edit: drat ive found 3 diamond veins, no tin yet Have you found any "garnettin" veins yet? Those have cassiterite sand, which despite the name is a tin-bearing ore, not a sand. Mica veins also have cassiterite ore (and if you have one, you lucky bastard, this one is a bitch to find.) Actual "tin" veins only spawn in mountainous terrain and are ludicrously rare.
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:last page or two makes me wish i hadn't lost my UHV GTNH game to a hard drive crash complaining works, just after i read this 
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Kyrosiris posted:I should get back to GTNH at some point. It'd probably be less frustrating than trying to close the distance between creative RF and creative vending in Nomifactory. I recently solved this problem with brute force and just created massive duplicate arrays under redstone control to passive everything. The first 40 draconic crafters were rough. After that, the sets spin up fast. I just got T8s fully automated and… I think I’m seeing the light at the end of this tunnel. I’ve been at this run for a hair over 14 months now, off and on.
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Lordshmee posted:I recently solved this problem with brute force and just created massive duplicate arrays under redstone control to passive everything. The first 40 draconic crafters were rough. After that, the sets spin up fast. Yeah, that's what Threefold did in his playthrough too and the idea has me mimicking  IRL.It's funny that I've got nigh-infinite resources but the one thing I'm lacking is patience for fiddly bullshit.
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Cassiterite sand is actually really nice because for some reason it produces 2x tin products when smelted or processed.
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I'm away from the game for a year or two and I have to be reminded that spiders can climb walls if you don't build them right. During a blood moon.
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