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Sad Panda posted:Update? I'm on 4.2.16 and it's not updated since 2016. http://www.beyondpod.mobi/Android/BETA/
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Oh, well I'm sure he reported the issue on the beta forum then. 
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Nov 25, 2017 21:27
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I emailed them. I'll try to find time to post on their beta forum, as well.
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Nov 25, 2017 21:38
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The Beta Beyondpod released on Wednesday hosed all sorts of things. I don't get a notification for it even during playback anymore. Of course they'd release it and then immediately go on vacation. Our fault for being in the Beta though.
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Nov 26, 2017 02:09
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I'm very happy I stuck with pocketcasts, they have one hell of an app.
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Nov 26, 2017 03:06
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TwistedNails posted:I'm very happy I stuck with pocketcasts, they have one hell of an app. Yeah second this. I used Google Listen for years after I should have given it up, then switched to Pocket Casts. The killer feature for me is the web player that I use on the desktop when I'm at home.
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Nov 26, 2017 03:33
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Thirding, after pocketcasts I couldn't go back to anything else. You can tell google assistant/google to start playlists, which paired with smart playlists and filtering options can be really nice. Webplayer is just a sweet bonus I didn't mind giving them 
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Nov 26, 2017 08:55
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Pocketcasts ist great but the lack of support for password protected feeds forced me away.
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Nov 26, 2017 09:11
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I think they've fixed that, or at least I don't remember any issues adding a protected feed to it last time I had to.
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Nov 26, 2017 10:58
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Talking about BeyondPod. Does the backup/restore option keep track of which episodes you have downloaded? I'm getting a new phone next week and want to have it re-download the same episodes I've got now. I guess setting up EpisodeSync on that phone could work, just wondering if it's necessary.
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Nov 26, 2017 16:46
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flatluigi posted:I think they've fixed that, or at least I don't remember any issues adding a protected feed to it last time I had to. There's no automatic support. You have to craft the Url with the login/pass yourself. After that it works fine though.
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Nov 26, 2017 18:56
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Now that you mention it, that's probably what drove me away from PocketCasts a few years ago. I was able to import the OPML from BeyondPod and that got my password-protected feed into PocketCasts just fine today.
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Nov 26, 2017 19:28
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Sad Panda posted:Talking about BeyondPod. Does the backup/restore option keep track of which episodes you have downloaded? I'm getting a new phone next week and want to have it re-download the same episodes I've got now. I guess setting up EpisodeSync on that phone could work, just wondering if it's necessary. In my experience, it remembers what episodes you have listened to and which you have downloaded but not listened to, but it doesn't auto-download them. If it does, I never figured out how.
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Nov 26, 2017 20:15
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Whats the USP of pocketcasts over Podcast Addict? The web thing?
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Nov 27, 2017 00:49
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I regret not switching from Pocketcasts to Podcast Addict much sooner. And I thought Pocketcasts was great for the many years I used it.
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Nov 27, 2017 10:23
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Cool cool cool cool cool. Beyondpod stores its backups in it's own folder, and that folder gets wiped out when you uninstall Beyondpod. Thanks, guys!
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Nov 27, 2017 13:39
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Vykk.Draygo posted:Cool cool cool cool cool. Beyondpod stores its backups in it's own folder, and that folder gets wiped out when you uninstall Beyondpod. Thanks, guys! Lmbo. Podcast Addict does the same thing though. I'm like MBMBAM, uh, Loser's Club, Norm McDonald... poo poo I'm missing something Other apps that do this include Nova Launcher (best launcher) (put save files on the cloud, basically)
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Nov 27, 2017 18:33
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When you do a Podcast Addict backup I'm quite sure it prompts you to save to cloud during the process. I've done a few moves just doing that to google drive and it has been excellent
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Nov 27, 2017 18:40
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Yeah, Beyondpod has a cloud saving option, but I was in a hurry and didn't expect it to wipe my backup. Oh well. I found a backup in my Drive trash from June at least.
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Nov 27, 2017 19:08
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Manky posted:When you do a Podcast Addict backup I'm quite sure it prompts you to save to cloud during the process. I've done a few moves just doing that to google drive and it has been excellent Right, but if you ignore this and save to the app's own directory it's gone. That's a poor design, sorry. I think I have save files on Gdrive, One Drive, MEGA and Dropbox at this point but why?
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Nov 27, 2017 19:40
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MeKeV posted:I regret not switching from Pocketcasts to Podcast Addict much sooner. And I thought Pocketcasts was great for the many years I used it. Nice, what feature of Podcast Addict do you like? The screenshots in the play store look like Pocketcasts.
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Nov 27, 2017 20:18
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syscall girl posted:Right, but if you ignore this and save to the app's own directory it's gone. That's a poor design, sorry. Genuine question, what's the bulletproof design solution for a user ignoring warnings, blowing past explanatory text, and then deleting their data without verifying their backup?
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Nov 27, 2017 20:20
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Vykk.Draygo posted:Cool cool cool cool cool. Beyondpod stores its backups in it's own folder, and that folder gets wiped out when you uninstall Beyondpod. Thanks, guys! Backups of the podcasts themselves, or user data like timestamps? Because if it's the former that's exactly what it should be doing. Actually it should be doing that for both, but user data should be saved in a cloud store tied to an account. Apps should never leave behind data after being uninstalled, apps that do are contributing to terrible design and device slowdown over time.
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Nov 27, 2017 20:47
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Manky posted:Genuine question, what's the bulletproof design solution for a user ignoring warnings, blowing past explanatory text, and then deleting their data without verifying their backup? I believe it's called "not telling the user to backup data in a folder that will be deleted with the app when the update won't install because it is having an issue with the previous version" SD, goog, internal memory anything that is not going to be deleted.
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Nov 27, 2017 20:47
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Taffer posted:Apps should never leave behind data after being uninstalled This is correct buuuut users are stupid and we rely on that sometimes.
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Nov 27, 2017 20:48
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You know you'd be complaining too if you discovered another app that left poo poo behind after you'd uninstalled it If it warns you it's going to do it, that's plenty good enough
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Nov 27, 2017 20:50
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syscall girl posted:This is correct buuuut users are stupid and we rely on that sometimes. That's not the fault of the system. At worst, it's a failure of the app to inform you that you may lose important data, but it sounds like it did that, so this is just user error. One of the greatest improvements in mobile OS's over the desktop is effective boxing in of applications, this is absolutely how it should be. Taffer fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Nov 27, 2017 |
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Nov 27, 2017 20:58
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Skarsnik posted:You know you'd be complaining too if you discovered another app that left poo poo behind after you'd uninstalled it Let me tell you a story about ES File Explorer and a little folder called Baidu The punchline is a ton of ayndroid apps call home to Mountain View but we don't care why?
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Nov 27, 2017 21:03
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syscall girl posted:Let me tell you a story about ES File Explorer and a little folder called Baidu What does this have to do with the system cleaning up after an app when it's uninstalled? 
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Nov 27, 2017 21:09
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Taffer posted:That's not the fault of the system. At worst, it's a failure of the app to inform you that you may lose important data, but it sounds like it did that, so this is just user error. This. "Stash a potentially large archive somewhere so it sticks around after they uninstall the app" is hella not the answer. For one thing, a user who is in this position has not been reading! Or else they'd be saving to the cloud! So they'll never know they have the backup because they won't have read where it was saved and nobody just traipses around their filesystem and are gonna notice a new file in some Androidass subfolder. And if they do? It's six months later and they just get pissed off (correctly) that garbage has been left sitting there. e: wait, what? syscall girl posted:Let me tell you a story about ES File Explorer and a little folder called Baidu 
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Taffer posted:What does this have to do with the system cleaning up after an app when it's uninstalled? "the system" doesn't do poo poo. ES File Explorer leaves a folder I'd challenge you to decrypt when you uninstall it. I just don't gaf about China knowing my porn habits though.
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Nov 27, 2017 21:14
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The problem is that you can't set BeyondPod to backup to any folder outside of itself by default meaning you have to manually go in and backup and save to cloud each time. That's easy to forget, especially compared to something like 1Password which syncs to my Dropbox so if it were wiped it'd still be there. It'd be just a single file in a place I asked it to put it, that's all I want.
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Nov 27, 2017 21:14
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Why can't BeyondPod just use the Google app backup service that so many apps nowadays use? I mean, when I switched from my 6P to my Pixel XL I barely had to configure any apps, they just were automatically provisioned when they got reinstalled.
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Nov 27, 2017 21:17
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syscall girl posted:"the system" doesn't do poo poo. Yes, bad apps that users give high-level permissions to can do destructive things, this is nothing new and is a fundamental challenge of all consumer software systems. The important thing to note here is that they can only do those things once the user is prompted and then accepts the request for high-level permissions.
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Nov 27, 2017 21:36
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I don't watch porn of any kind. It supports sex-trafficking. I'm more worried about all my progressive lefty posts I use to annoy people on fb And guess which app I absolutely can not uninstall from my phone. "Life-long Republican" Zuckerberg will be our next president though
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Nov 27, 2017 21:38
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Thermopyle posted:Why can't BeyondPod just use the Google app backup service that so many apps nowadays use? Add Authenticator+ to that list, I am looking to switch again to another 2FA app after the bullshit I had with it yesterday. Between export crashes and other nonsense I ended up manually backing up and restoring the DB file.
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Nov 27, 2017 21:44
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I also had problems with Authenticator+ when switching phones. I mean, it restored my stuff from the cloud, but several 2fa accounts were just not there. It's like at some point it stopped syncing newly added accounts to Dropbox and just kept them locally.
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Thermopyle posted:I also had problems with Authenticator+ when switching phones. I mean, it restored my stuff from the cloud, but several 2fa accounts were just not there. It's like at some point it stopped syncing newly added accounts to Dropbox and just kept them locally. Dropbox syncing broke when Dropbox changed their API a while back. I'm not sure if it ever got fixed or if it required user action to restore the sync since I use Google Drive as the backup store. That said, I've had the same experience when switching phones with Authenticator+ and like The Gunslinger had to restore by manually grabbing the database file from my old device. Another annoyance that is killing me is how on Wear if the screen times out and you reopen the app, it resets to the top of the token list. This never happened before the update that broke out the Wear app into the watch Play Store but now it bites me multiple times a day.
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LastInLine posted:Dropbox syncing broke when Dropbox changed their API a while back. I'm not sure if it ever got fixed or if it required user action to restore the sync since I use Google Drive as the backup store. Yeah, db's new API broke everything but M$'s SMB implementation is worse somehow.
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