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Wheeee posted:Cars are going to be so much cooler and better once there's an energy storage solution that's at least an order of magnitude more energy dense and/or faster to recharge than current battery technology, too bad we'll all be either dead or just plain old as poo poo by then I'm doubtful we'll make huge strides in energy denisty (Altho I do think ten years time it'll be a fair bit better than now) but I suspect charging speed will change get a lot faster just simply due to the time and effort people are going to be putting into it. There's money to be made after all and clearly the five minute recharge is the big target. Oft repeated but in 2010 we had not a clue what EV's would be in 2020 and you would have been laughed out of the forum for suggesting Tesla would even be alive after the Top Gear debacle.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I rest my case. EVOs, GTOs/3000GTs, and 2G DSMs are all good though.
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KozmoNaut posted:All y'all seem hell-bent on passing judgment on my driving skills from a few misunderstood sentences. You're specifically complaining that the car won't accelerate though. It will, you just need to actually get it into the power band to do so. Then again, I don't own any cars with less than 350ftlbs and I floor it everywhere.
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KillHour posted:Then again, I don't own any cars with more than 250ftlbs and I floor it everywhere. 
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Oft repeated but in 2010 we had not a clue what EV's would be in 2020 and you would have been laughed out of the forum for suggesting Tesla would even be alive after the Top Gear debacle.
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Bandire posted:This. Top gear in cars is generally for fuel efficient highway cruising, not accelerating out of a school zone. Even at 400+ horsepower, my Mustang struggles to accelerate under 45mph in 6th.
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Sep 26, 2020 07:14
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If you treat the coyote like I do and pretend it's a Honda with Vtech it's a good time lol
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Sep 26, 2020 22:15
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Any car sold today should be able to reach Interstate speeds in the length of an typical on-ramp. I don't think that's too much to ask. Though I suppose that's more "30 to 75" performance than "0 to 60"
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BrownieVK posted:If you treat the coyote like I do and pretend it's a Honda with Vtech it's a good time lol Yup. It ain't a pushrod V8, you gotta wind it out to have fun. Which is fine.
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FuturePastNow posted:Any car sold today should be able to reach Interstate speeds in the length of an typical on-ramp. I don't think that's too much to ask. I think it was Jason Cammisa that said 5-60 times are way more relevant than 0-60. I think car and driver are the ones that test 5-60, but there might be others.
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I agree with that opinion absolutely. The extra power derived by revving the engine and dumping the clutch isn't relevant to other tests of performance, but starting from a locked clutch gives you a good sense of how the engine builds power across the band.
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Sep 27, 2020 18:48
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I loved my 160hp Focus. Got to mash the pedal down daily.
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RPMs are good, you should make the engine do lots of them, and if you disagree then you're wrong and bad.
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Modus Man posted:I think it was Jason Cammisa that said 5-60 times are way more relevant than 0-60. I think car and driver are the ones that test 5-60, but there might be others. BrownieVK posted:If you treat the coyote like I do and pretend it's a Honda with Vtech it's a good time lol
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Sep 28, 2020 15:17
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hell throw in 0-25 for urban driving and prius epeen
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30-70 is the all important two lane road passing confidence metric. I don't need my car to be fast, I just need to know that at any reasonable speed I can drop a gear and pass a truck with a camper on a dotted yellow line without it taking too long. This is why I want a fairly powerful car, not to race stoplight to stoplight, but for the comfort that knowing I can get out of situations that need a dab of speed easily. Gangringo fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Sep 28, 2020 |
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Really like this bit by Cammisa about 0-60 times and why they are bullshit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igqKJymzv90 Skip to 48:10 if that link doesn’t take you there for whatever reason
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Modus Man posted:I think it was Jason Cammisa that said 5-60 times are way more relevant than 0-60. I think car and driver are the ones that test 5-60, but there might be others. I started caring way more about 5-60 vs 0-60 as I not clutch dumping or doing loving launch control each time I drive.
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Sep 28, 2020 18:21
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Gangringo posted:30-70 is the all important two lane road passing confidence metric. I don't need my car to be fast, I just need to know that at any reasonable speed I can drop a gear and pass a truck with a camper on a dotted yellow line without it taking too long. I always remember Clarkson's review of one of the AMG 65 Mercs that had like 700+ lbs/ft of torque. The whole thing was mostly "lol this might be excessive" but it was the sheer overtaking ability that really sold him on it. He'd be cruising along a two-lane road at 40 and then pass three cars in front of him in as many seconds.
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Gangringo posted:30-70 is the all important two lane road passing confidence metric. I don't need my car to be fast, I just need to know that at any reasonable speed I can drop a gear and pass a truck with a camper on a dotted yellow line without it taking too long. It's interesting how little top-end HP matters for this as well compared to transmission performance, the engine's ability to rev quickly, and the car's weight. Difference between fast and quick I guess.
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I got some wheel spin passing someone in 3rd a couple weeks back. I think that hurts my 50-90 time
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From noted hive of scum, villainy, and boomers, CorvetteForum, RE: 2021 Corvette changes -quote:Finally, the Buckle to Drive feature, which won’t let the driver shift out of park until they’ve had their seat belt buckled for at least 20 seconds, is also standard. 
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MrYenko posted:From noted hive of scum, villainy, and boomers, CorvetteForum, RE: 2021 Corvette changes - *scratches C8 off the list of potential getaway vehicles.*
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20 seconds? What's the value of that delay?
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MrYenko posted:From noted hive of scum, villainy, and boomers, CorvetteForum, RE: 2021 Corvette changes - Well thats gonna piss a few people off
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Most boomers can't even fit in the C8 already
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Zorak of Michigan posted:20 seconds? What's the value of that delay? That's my question. Seems like an eternity if you count it out. I probably am at least that long before I start to move the car because I like to check the radio, mirrors, etc, but seems like a while. I do hate it when people immediately go into reverse without any thought at all. 5-10 seconds seems better? I've noticed Euro taxi drivers often plug it in and unplug it immediately to silence the chime. Maybe boomers do that too. edit: Isn't Buckle to Drive an opt-in thing for parents of teenagers? That's what Chevy does for other cars.
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Seems about right for how long I let me car warm up before I set out. Honestly booting the god drat infotainment seems to take ages more so than idle rpms coming down.
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TheBacon posted:Seems about right for how long I let me car warm up before I set out. TheBacon posted:how long I let me car warm up TheBacon posted:I let me car warm up Ayyy, matey, 'tis a powerful machine, scupper the bilges me hearty! Arrr. (I buckle my belt as I'm reversing out of my driveway, so I'm gonna go ahead and rate this "feature" a solid fuckyou out of 10).
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Super Soaker Party! posted:Ayyy, matey, 'tis a powerful machine, scupper the bilges me hearty! I understand it hasn't been needed since fuel injection, but it still makes me feel better and it makes me make sure to always check extra careful for children and pedestrians before starting to back out. I like the routine and rhythm of it alright!
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On one hand I think 20 seconds is a bit much, but on the other hand it angers and hurts old racist fucks on corvetteforum.com Toss up.
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Charles posted:edit: Isn't Buckle to Drive an opt-in thing for parents of teenagers? That's what Chevy does for other cars. I at least hope you can turn it off, or it's just part of some "give it to your teenaged kid" restricted mode.
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Neo_Crimson posted:I at least hope you can turn it off, or it's just part of some "give it to your teenaged kid" restricted mode. Yes it's like Ford MyTouch where you can set restrictions for certain keys, at least on other Chevys. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/05/21/chevy-buckle-to-drive-seatbelt-shifter-teen-drivers/ Edit: I mean read the description, it's not even that bad, geez. quote:If the car starts without the seatbelt buckled, the shifter is locked out for up to 20 seconds or until the driver buckles the seatbelt, whichever comes first. The lock-out only lasts for a maximum of 20 seconds, though, whether the seatbelt was fastened or not. When asked why the 20-second time frame, a representative from Chevy said that "over 70% of drivers try to shift out of park within 20 seconds of turning the vehicle ON, so we feel that the 20 second timing will capture the most natural habits and encourage teens to buckle up before they head out on the road."
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Just timed it in the 340, it takes about 20 seconds for the engine to get to operating idle. It’s really not that long, but it doesn’t lock you out.
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Lol if you aren’t doing 6,000 rpm clutch dumps immediately after starting your car in -40 degree weather just lol
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Mr. Apollo posted:Lol if you aren’t doing 6,000 rpm clutch dumps immediately after starting your car in -40 degree weather just lol In a car with a 5500 RPM redline.
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Camry 0-60 pull dot youtube
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ughhh Doug's RS6 review is up today. I need this thing in my life  Looks so good in red...
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China appear to be getting better at design. I kinda dig this retro smoovboy. https://twitter.com/salvadorhdzmtz/status/1310923110246424576?s=20
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Speaking of better at design, here's the patent images for the next gen Civic. Overall, I like it. Toned down from the previous gen's styling. Though the headlights look awkward from the front, but hopefully that looks better in person.
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