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MasterSlowPoke posted:They don't really look like that one converted model. Much smaller, that dude was more like a Terminator. They look exactly the same, from the backpack to the legs to the longer bolters. That "debunk" wasn't even right.
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ijyt posted:They look exactly the same, from the backpack to the legs to the longer bolters. That "debunk" wasn't even right. It looks smaller though, I think.
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Apr 22, 2017 15:18
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ijyt posted:They look exactly the same, from the backpack to the legs to the longer bolters. That "debunk" wasn't even right. They look far more like the new Deathwatch and Thousand Sons, basically marines not standing in a squat.
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Apr 22, 2017 15:18
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People were saying the exact same thing when the updated Tacticals came out with those pair of straightened legs. The last serious scale creep was 3rd/4th ed Marines compared to the 5th onwards kits, and even there it was only a slight bit.
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Apr 22, 2017 15:21
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SteelMentor posted:People were saying the exact same thing when the updated Tacticals came out with those pair of straightened legs. Yeah the Deathwatch look a bit taller than most marines because they're also standing more upright. These look like the same size to me/on par with the Chaos Chosen released in 7th edition. Plus they're being painted as Ultramarines here and armed with bolters, which says "new marine models" to me and not so much "whole new faction of sigmar marines all your old poo poo is obsolete"
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Apr 22, 2017 15:24
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Interesting that Inquisition is no more and Imperial Agents is its own thing, not just a supplemental codex. And Sisters of Battle are still a separate thing? Maybe we haven't seen new sister sculpts because they're truescale...
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Apr 22, 2017 15:27
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Mango Polo posted:It looks smaller though, I think. MasterSlowPoke posted:They look far more like the new Deathwatch and Thousand Sons, basically marines not standing in a squat. They're identical. 
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Apr 22, 2017 15:29
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ijyt posted:They're identical. I for one welcome our new Guillimarine overlords...
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Apr 22, 2017 15:37
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Apr 22, 2017 15:40
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Moola posted:is 40k good now? It's still in 7th edition, so no.
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Apr 22, 2017 15:40
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Those look like 32mm bases as well, if they were Stormcast size they'd be on 40mm's. I really like the new Bolters, that slight elongation makes them look a lot more functional.
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Apr 22, 2017 15:41
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Anyone have a gut feeling on whether the gathering storm books will bottom out in price or stay high? I still need to pick them up for my Obsessive Collector Mentality, but if I can get them more cheaply, I'm all for it. I think they'll probably go down, due to uselessness, but there's always a chance of scarcity driving up demand.
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Apr 22, 2017 15:46
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I don't really play 40K anymore haven't played a game in probably 6 or 7 years, so I'm not exactly the target demographic or the most informed commentator, but I hope they don't just make Vehicles use wounds. I always thought knowing the facing of vehicles and having them behave noticeably different when being shot was one of the coolest elements of the shooting phase when I used to play.
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Apr 22, 2017 15:47
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You can probably pick them up locally cheaper than online. ijyt posted:They're identical. Ah, well then.
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Apr 22, 2017 15:47
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I'd be pretty down with an official push towards movie Marines. They'd never do it because money, but still.
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Apr 22, 2017 15:51
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MasterSlowPoke posted:You can probably pick them up locally cheaper than online. Most of the local stores are pretty tightass. Won't hurt to try, I suppose.
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SteelMentor posted:I'm the Cheetos-cron. Her art style doesn't really match the 40K aesthetic, but I think it's great that they are utilizing her for stuff like this. Also, those drawings are super awesome and actually make me more excited than any promo art GW has put out in years.
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ijyt posted:It's still in 7th edition, so no. heck!
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Apr 22, 2017 16:13
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thegodofchuck posted:Most of the local stores are pretty tightass. Won't hurt to try, I suppose. Probably more like when the local stores have a flea market or something like that would be the best way to pick them up cheaply.
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Apr 22, 2017 16:21
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If they roll all of CSM back into a single flavorless legion agasin I will sell my stuff for ballast on a dingy fishing boat. Feel kinda bad for my friends who -just- bought Traitor's Hate and Chaos Legions, but other than that, seems more good that not. So far.
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*strokes hard copy of tau codex and weeps* At least the FAQ makes everything sound exciting.
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Sephyr posted:If they roll all of CSM back into a single flavorless legion agasin I will sell my stuff for ballast on a dingy fishing boat. They already announced Death Guard and they're listing Thousand Sons as a separate faction so no, I don't think we're going to go back to a single flavorless legion
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Wirth1000 posted:*strokes hard copy of tau codex and weeps* congrats on your new stylish paperweight 
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Wirth1000 posted:*strokes hard copy of tau codex and weeps* Don't worry, the fluff and hobby sections are still valid!
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#heretics
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So are the Genestealers a separate faction from the Tyranids now? How does all of that work? I think they used to be separate back in 2nd edition (?) and I distinctly remember they had a big, retarded space limo (!) that you could ride around in.
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goose willis posted:So are the Genestealers a separate faction from the Tyranids now? How does all of that work? I think they used to be separate back in 2nd edition (?) and I distinctly remember they had a big, retarded space limo (!) that you could ride around in. They are a separate faction (Genestealer Cult), they can currently ally with guard or tyranids
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Invalidating Codexes pretty much insures the luanch of 8th will be bad. It means they either have to come up with good and interesting rules for every unit in the game and then give them away for free or, and more likely, white wash huge chunks of the units in the game until they come out with supplements to making them interesting. Seeing how they have handled writing rules for pre-existing models in the past this might be an AOS level bad luanch.
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JesusIsTehCool posted:Invalidating Codexes pretty much insures the luanch of 8th will be bad. It means they either have to come up with good and interesting rules for every unit in the game and then give them away for free or, and more likely, white wash huge chunks of the units in the game until they come out with supplements to making them interesting. Seeing how they have handled writing rules for pre-existing models in the past this might be an AOS level bad luanch. To be fair, every edition they launch with old books still in it is a poo poo show too. With half the armies rules turning to dogshit due to some change or becoming over the top good for others.
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Black_Nexus posted:They are a separate faction (Genestealer Cult), they can currently ally with guard or tyranids Yes but are they completely separate from Tyranids now? The faction description makes no mention of Tyranids, so I figure maybe they spun them off into an entirely separate army, which makes much more sense because I never felt that Genestealers properly fit into the rest of Tyranids.
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Black_Nexus posted:To be fair, every edition they launch with old books still in it is a poo poo show too. The switch fron 6th to 7th wasnt so bad. And I am less concerned about balance, that has never existes in 40k. I am more worried that all the armies will play very similarly. Like even though my Nids are super weak they play very different from my DA or Aeldari.
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goose willis posted:Yes but are they completely separate from Tyranids now? The faction description makes no mention of Tyranids, so I figure maybe they spun them off into an entirely separate army, which makes much more sense because I never felt that Genestealers properly fit into the rest of Tyranids. For all purposes, yes. Even in the fluff, the Genestealer cult is just a beacon for the Tyranid. When they arrive to devour the world as many Genestealers escape to renew the cycle on other worlds, otherwise they too are eventually dumped into the digestion pools. Genestealers are as independent of Tyranid as possible while still technically being members.
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I think it's profoundly goofy to have them have any connection to the Tyranids at all. Why do they need some sort of humanoid beacon, and why does the beacon take the form of something out of a wacky 50s sci-fi pulp novel while the rest of the army is just the bugs from Starship Troopers? They really do make sense as an entirely separate army, which would give them much cooler options that they wouldn't be able to take if they were just solely a vanguard force for the space bugs.
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JesusIsTehCool posted:The switch fron 6th to 7th wasnt so bad. I'm skeptical about 8th, but the fact that the current crop of codexes and supplements is being invalidated gives me a little hope. They were rear end. I know it's similar to what they did with Age of Sigmar, but at least this time they're keeping the basic structure of the game. We'll see. I'll probably give it a shot.
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goose willis posted:I think it's profoundly goofy to have them have any connection to the Tyranids at all. Why do they need some sort of humanoid beacon, and why does the beacon take the form of something out of a wacky 50s sci-fi pulp novel while the rest of the army is just the bugs from Starship Troopers? They really do make sense as an entirely separate army, which would give them much cooler options that they wouldn't be able to take if they were just solely a vanguard force for the space bugs. It's also about biomass availability on the planet. The hive fleet or tendril doesn't want to waste the resources narwhaling to a planet that is barren save for a few psykers it saw on radar. The cult also serves to disrupt local militia and governance, making the reclaiming part of the invasion happen quicker and easier. Sure, they can look a bit goofy, but GSCs are a classic institution, and with everything in this game that makes no sense on the surface, at least you have to look at these guys a little harder before it starts unraveling.
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