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Wasabi the J posted:Be advised that browns kinda feel like gritty reds; I ended up not liking them because the "bump" they talk about feels like a big grain of sand and doesn't match the actuation point. Huh, yeah, I really like browns. I feel like blues are similar, just wilfully noisy.
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What's a nice keyboard using MX Browns that I can buy in the UK? Don't need LEDs or anything, I want it for work so something professional looking. Tenkeyless would be fine but not required. Edit: What about this thing? http://www.amazon.co.uk/QPAD-MK-50-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B006L3S4OO
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Tunga posted:What's a nice keyboard using MX Browns that I can buy in the UK? Don't need LEDs or anything, I want it for work so something professional looking. Tenkeyless would be fine but not required. Bear in mind, The Keyboard Company: http://www.keyboardco.com/ Is UK based, and they have pretty much whatever you want
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Tunga posted:Edit: What about this thing? It looks like Cooler Master stuff is only 10-15 pounds more on amazon.uk, so I'd say only buy that qpad if you're price sensitive. As HalloKitty said you have a good local source for Filco boards on the other end of the price scale. CM doesn't do the UK layout though, so I don't know if there's a good option for UK between that Qpad and a Filco.
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Part of me wants to get a blue keyboard for the office just to be noisy.
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El Scotch posted:Part of me wants to get a blue keyboard for the office just to be noisy. If I got a mechanical office keyboard it would be blues too since I'm right up against tech support and they're loud and talkative every time they aren't on a call.
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware / Software Crap > Keyboard Megathread - Coworker Griefing Station
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Sep 16, 2013 19:07
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I won't lie: That's a big reason I bought a second mechanical keyboard.
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Sep 16, 2013 20:15
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Do they make something like the Microsoft ergonomic 4000 with mechanical key switches (negative rise, tented, split layout) that doesn't have some wacky non-standard layout?
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Sep 16, 2013 23:38
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ZShakespeare posted:Do they make something like the Microsoft ergonomic 4000 with mechanical key switches (negative rise, tented, split layout) that doesn't have some wacky non-standard layout? 2. This thing. It's really expensive, and the way the keys are aligned is different from normal or even a "standard" split keyboard, even though they're all the same placement relative to each other. See this review. Super-expensive, and there was some shadyness at first where they held people's money for years before the thing was in production. But keyboardco has them in stock so they're not vapor anymore. I don't think it's possible to make a "humped" keyboard with mech switches like the MS ergo keyboards. Or if you could it would need the plate that backs the switches to be curved as well. Not economically possible unless you're going to produce a huge number of them.
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Sep 17, 2013 01:14
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Klyith posted:2. This thing. It's really expensive, and the way the keys are aligned is different from normal or even a "standard" split keyboard, even though they're all the same placement relative to each other. See this review. Super-expensive, and there was some shadyness at first where they held people's money for years before the thing was in production. But keyboardco has them in stock so they're not vapor anymore. This is almost certainly in my future assuming I can find one for sale. Prioritized above any other fanciful purchases, that might actually do something good for my wrists, I have some lateral tendonitis (not carpal tunnel but related in terms of typing) and that looks like it would be incredibly comfortable to type on once I've learned the peculiar layout.
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Agreed posted:This is almost certainly in my future assuming I can find one for sale. Prioritized above any other fanciful purchases, that might actually do something good for my wrists, I have some lateral tendonitis (not carpal tunnel but related in terms of typing) and that looks like it would be incredibly comfortable to type on once I've learned the peculiar layout. One of my co-workers got when when they first where coming out. Since there were a bunch of us who where keyboard nerds he let us all mess around with it for a bit. For general typing it was fantastic and took very little time to get use to. The one issue we had was our jobs required lots of use of a number pad, but it looks like they have added a function to unlock one. So if you have the cash and the need for that level of ergonomics I would say go for it.
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How are the topre keyboards from type heaven? From what I've read in the past topre switches seemed to be hailed the "rolls-royce" of switches however this one (http://www.amazon.com/Topre-Type-Heaven-104-key-Keyboard/dp/B00DGJALYW/) seems surprisingly affordable compared to the $200+ Topre boards I've seen before (I always assumed they wernt affordable). I just picked up a ducky shine with MX Blacks for gaming and its just "good" to me. Is this worth trying out while I'm still within my return window? Primarily FPS gaming. Vulcan fucked around with this message at 02:46 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Sep 17, 2013 02:43
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Vulcan posted:How are the topre keyboards from type heaven? From what I've read in the past topre switches seemed to be hailed the "rolls-royce" of switches however this one (http://www.amazon.com/Topre-Type-Heaven-104-key-Keyboard/dp/B00DGJALYW/) seems surprisingly affordable compared to the $200+ Topre boards I've seen before (I always assumed they wernt affordable). It's also a lot less expensive than the Realforce because it uses all 45g switches. The Realforce has multiple weights (heavier in the middle, lighter on the pinky keys). quote:I just picked up a ducky shine with MX Blacks for gaming and its just "good" to me. So is it the stiffness you dislike, or the longer throw to press a key? If it's the heavy touch of the blacks, then the type heaven will be it's exact opposite in every way (45g switches are even lighter than reds). But a red or brown might be just as good for much cheaper. What I'm wondering though is that, coming from a scissor board, you might have gotten to like the short throw distance of those keys. In that case there's nothing to do but go back to scissors or adapt to a new board. Topres are full-distance keys just like a cherry. quote:Primarily FPS gaming. (I've never understood why mech keyboards have become "gamer" products. I'm not a pro MLG gamer in any way, but after switching from a mediocre scissor to mechanical I'd say games are my least improved activity. The old keyboard wasn't the problem.) VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV edit: Just to clarify, it's not variable based on letter frequency, it's by finger strength with hands in home position. Strongest point & middle, medium ring, lightest pinky & modifiers. (And if they were done by frequency, the distribution would be really different since they're made in Japan!) Klyith fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Vulcan posted:How are the topre keyboards from type heaven? From what I've read in the past topre switches seemed to be hailed the "rolls-royce" of switches however this one (http://www.amazon.com/Topre-Type-Heaven-104-key-Keyboard/dp/B00DGJALYW/) seems surprisingly affordable compared to the $200+ Topre boards I've seen before (I always assumed they wernt affordable). I don't know though if the Torpe Heaven is one of those models or not though; this is just a heads-up to make sure that if you're using this for gaming, make sure each key has even weighting. Edit: Beat, and it seems the Torpe Heaven doesn't have that issue so disregard.  Editx2: /\/\: Whoops, it seems I'm even more ignorant! At least that helps justify my decision to go with a Cherry switch keyboard instead of Torpe. I've got an unorthodox method of touch typing honed from experience rather than training that's only loosely based around the home keys (plus I'm prone to non-serious finger injuries and have to readjust), so it might feel odd when I'm using different fingers than expected to hit some of the keys. Trapezium Dave fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Due to years playing FPS games, I pretty much type with two fingers on the left hand and one on the right. I literally have no idea how to use the homerow method. I have Topre variable weight keyboard and I don't have any issues at all with typing an absurd amount of words a day. Despite using like three fingers total, I still do alright   It's also a joy to use in FPS games because of how smooth the action is.
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fookolt posted:Due to years playing FPS games, I pretty much type with two fingers on the left hand and one on the right. I literally have no idea how to use the homerow method. I have Topre variable weight keyboard and I don't have any issues at all with typing an absurd amount of words a day. Pretty sure idiosyncratic typists actually aren't any slower than home row typists - I can usually nail at least 110-120 wpm, some tests closer to 140 or 150, and I use all of the fingers on my left hand but only a couple on my right hand, and usually just the middle finger and occasionally the index finger for brackets etc. and pinky for shift. I still think an ergonomically weighted keyboard would make typing more comfortable, don't feel it's necessarily limited to home row typists. Same deal with the ergo keyboards - the big deal there is just positioning the wrists in a much better way, what I then do with them isn't as important as the basic fact that I could probably avoid making some tendonitis issues I have worse. I already do what I can but it's only so much, y'know?
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Anyone tried the Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic keyboard yet? It looks pretty promising - a split design like the previous MS natural keyboards, a separate numpad, and chiclet-style keys. If the keys are anything like a ThinkPad keyboard, that's all I could really want in a keyboard. On the minus side, the shrunken function keys seem unnecessary, and I'm not sure I like the layout of the right side of the keyboard. Yet Another Non-Standard Layout for the Pg/Home/End keys would probably take some getting used to, although I suppose the keys are closer than usual. I suspect I might end up pressing insert by accident a lot. So far I only see one Canadian retailer with stock (nowhere near me), and they're only selling the bundle with the weird lumpy mouse that I have no interest in.
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fookolt posted:Due to years playing FPS games, I pretty much type with two fingers on the left hand and one on the right. I literally have no idea how to use the homerow method. I have Topre variable weight keyboard and I don't have any issues at all with typing an absurd amount of words a day. I love Topre so much, but I don't type that well.  Keyboard related humor from imgur  Edit: tables Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Sep 17, 2013 |
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Wasabi the J posted:I love Topre so much, but I don't type that well. He cleary found out one ultra-irritating thing about most cheap keyboards - F and J are rotated underneath, so you can't actually swap them with other letters without them.. you know, being sideways. Hence the drop to two lines.
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eXXon posted:Anyone tried the Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic keyboard yet? It looks pretty promising - a split design like the previous MS natural keyboards, a separate numpad, and chiclet-style keys. If the keys are anything like a ThinkPad keyboard, that's all I could really want in a keyboard. Where? I haven't been able to find one.
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ZShakespeare posted:Where? I haven't been able to find one. MemoryExpress has stock online and in store, but no stores in Ontario, unfortunately. I haven't found it in stock anywhere else yet.
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Agreed posted:Their standard lineup is really affordable for specialty mech keyboards, what's the catch? God drat it I'm going to end up with, of all things, a keyboard collection by the time this is over, I can feel it starting ONE OF US! ONE OF US! (Give in.. You won't be happy until you've tried a board based around all kinds of switches, and go help you if you go down the alps rabbit hole of finding a perfect example of one of those guys...)
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My K70 has been delivered, and I won't be able to see it for another four hours. I think I'll bring my barely-working Blackwidow into work and drive everyone nuts with the loud keys and the inevitable fist slam when it stops registering keystrokes.
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As long as we are giving shipment status updates: my KBtalKing Pro Value Edition is at the post office right now waiting for me to pick it up! Can't wait to see how it performs with my iPad.
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K70 is great. I was wary of the build quality but my old Blackwidow cries in comparison. Kinda still used to blues but I don't hate the reds. Pretty happy with it!
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ZShakespeare posted:Do they make something like the Microsoft ergonomic 4000 with mechanical key switches (negative rise, tented, split layout) that doesn't have some wacky non-standard layout? Just posted a bit earlier in the thread, but there's a recent 4000-shaped board from Microsoft with scissor-switches, still no perfect 4000 clone with regular mechanical switches. I might get one eventually, same shape with crisper key action and a space in the middle to put some mousing implement. eXXon posted:Anyone tried the Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic keyboard yet? It looks pretty promising - a split design like the previous MS natural keyboards, a separate numpad, and chiclet-style keys. If the keys are anything like a ThinkPad keyboard, that's all I could really want in a keyboard. Looks like the expensive desktop bundle is coded L5V-00001 and the cheaper mouseless keyboard/numpad package is coded 5KV-00001
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Bucket Joneses posted:As long as we are giving shipment status updates: ... My Leopold FC660C is somewhere in the military postal system. 
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Immediate thoughts on the KBT Pro Value Edition: What the hell are these keys supposed to do?
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They're timers. The noodle one goes from one to 15 minutes in one minute increments. The muscle button turns the keyboard off for ten minutes every hour to remind you to get up and stretch.
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Yeah I just figured that out from the minimal instructions in the box. It's sort of useful I guess? It notifies you that the timer is complete by blinking the light on the caps lock key. I don't look down at my keyboard all that often so an actual tone would be nice (if the kb is even capable of producing tones).
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Bucket Joneses posted:Yeah I just figured that out from the minimal instructions in the box. Check out the Tutorial on their website, it looks pretty complete. I don't see anything about a tone option, however: http://kbtalkingusa.com/kbtalking-pro-tutorial/
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Internet Friend posted:They're timers. The noodle one goes from one to 15 minutes in one minute increments. The muscle button turns the keyboard off for ten minutes every hour to remind you to get up and stretch. I just looked at that tutorial, and what the gently caress you're actually serious 
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Rexxed posted:Check out the Tutorial on their website, it looks pretty complete. I don't see anything about a tone option, however: Oh for some reason I didn't see that link on their site. Thanks for that! I've got it configured to connect to my ipad and my pc. It seems to switch between devices fairly quickly. Interesting to note that when you plug it into an iDevice using the USB dongle from Apple, iOS will tell you that the device isn't supported but it will work perfectly in apps (tested in Prompt). I really like the feel and sound of browns. I don't notice the "grain of sand" feel that other posters described. I guess I'll be able to form a better opinion of the nuances of the switch when the KBT Pure Pro (reds) I ordered shows up at the end of the month. EDIT: I figured out how the timer gets your attention. When it goes off, it literally disables all the keys until you acknowledge the timer. I'm down with this method. DR FRASIER KRANG fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Sep 20, 2013 |
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Apologies for not reading all of this thread, but it's long. My MX5500 keyboard is about to die. The rubberized palm rest is deteriorating after years sitting on my desk in the sun and is now a sticky gross mess. The mouse died a long time ago and was replaced with a Performance MX which I love to death (because it has a USB cable charger and charges while being useful). I will never go back to anything that has a charging terminal, like the original MX5500 mouse. Features of the keyboard that I want in a replacement are: numpad, wireless, OSD with clock (it's the only clock on my desk), media keys, full size depression or whatever that's called (i.e not laptop style). I'm not too fussed about mechanical. The built in calculator is neat and does get used too. Beyond that I'm flexible. What are my options? A quick look at logitech website and newegg says they don't have anything at all like that. Are there any other products to look at?
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Captain Postal posted:Apologies for not reading all of this thread, but it's long. Literally nothing I can see has those options.
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Captain Postal posted:Features of the keyboard that I want in a replacement are: numpad, wireless, OSD with clock (it's the only clock on my desk), media keys, full size depression or whatever that's called (i.e not laptop style). I'm not too fussed about mechanical. The built in calculator is neat and does get used too. Beyond that I'm flexible.  + 
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I got the Leopold FC660C today! Gallery here. Incoming   Feels really solid. I like the uniform key weight over the graduated keys (30-35g at the pinkies, 45-50 at the pointers) of the Realforce. I feel it's very similar to my old HHKB Pro. The keyboard comes in standard ANSI layout, so the keys out of the box are laid out in the familiar pattern; the differences between the pic and your standard board are due to me moving keys around.  Dip switches to reassign key functions like the position of the Fn/Windows keys, and Caps Lock/Control. I personally like the feel of Caps Lock and Ctrl being swapped, and I use the FN key more than I'll use the Win key, so they're swapped too.  The risers have rubber all the way around, so it feels super planted, even when they're extended. That makes a huge difference over a lot of boards, that kinda work their way back over time.    Smaller than most tenkeyless keyboards, even the CMStorm Quickfire.  Doesn't come with a whole lot; I didn't use the included cable. I opted for a more fancy and easier to store Accell Flat mini-B cable. The Caps Lock and Ctrl keys shown here are actually from the board. I put the included ones on, for the aforementioned Ctrl/Caps swap.  Looks like they'll be doing a white and non-print version eventually, if you're a masochist. The key caps are a little thinner than most, but it's just about as non-clattery as most Topre boards. I don't mind a tiny bit of extra noise, anyway. Super happy with this board. Standard Topre keycaps fit, but the spacebar row is hosed up in lengths, so those would stay the same. The keys are laser etched; some people are really pedantic about this, but I can't even feel the etching unless I'm trying to. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Sep 20, 2013 |
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