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Convex
Aug 19, 2010
Alan Wake is another game that's way better on easy, as the combat is incredibly repetitive.

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ETPC
Jul 10, 2008

Wheel with it.
i play every game possible on easy because life is already loving exhausting and difficult

SolidSnakesBandana
Jul 1, 2007

Infinite ammo

ETPC posted:

i play every game possible on easy because life is already loving exhausting and difficult

I play every game possible on hard because life is already loving exhausting and difficult, and I would like to actually succeed at something that is exhausting and difficult

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

My life's easy as gently caress and I play every game on the hardest difficult because I'm an ally.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

Convex posted:

Alan Wake is another game that's way better on easy, as the combat is incredibly repetitive.

Disagree. It was really easy even on normal and not really repetitive, as far as I remember.

ETPC
Jul 10, 2008

Wheel with it.

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

I play every game possible on hard because life is already loving exhausting and difficult, and I would like to actually succeed at something that is exhausting and difficult

honestly i can understand that

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

I played a MOBA for 3 years and so now I no longer can play games for fun and/or enjoyment.

DoombatINC
Apr 20, 2003

Here's the thing, I'm a feminist.





Difficulty is such an inconsistent thing, even within the same franchise:

Wolf:TNO - my first run through the game was done on Hard and it felt like a fair, enjoyable challenge that put up enough resistance to feel satisfying but not so much to be frustrating (except for specifically the big guys with the flak cannon shotguns, they can eat my entire rear end)

Wolf:TNC - my first (and current) run is on Normal, I'm about a third of the way in, and I'm wondering at what point I get to turn from a busted-rear end puppet into a real live boy 'cause this poo poo ain't cutting it

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

DoombatINC posted:

Wolf:TNC - my first (and current) run is on Normal, I'm about a third of the way in, and I'm wondering at what point I get to turn from a busted-rear end puppet into a real live boy 'cause this poo poo ain't cutting it

Halfway through. Having 50 health for the first half of the game makes sense story-wise, but it's a bizarre gameplay decision.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



DoombatINC posted:

Difficulty is such an inconsistent thing, even within the same franchise:


Yeah, with by the way is a reason to also want the ability to change the difficulty on the fly, because you never know what the hell means 'Normal' or 'Hard' in a game, it depends of the developer, and also it depends on the player (their skill can vary depending on the genre, each player can have different amounts of experience with similar games, etc).

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
To completely change the subject I am rediscovering the goodness that is the plutonia midi pack and was wondering if there are any other quality midi replacement packs for the iwads

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

site posted:

To completely change the subject I am rediscovering the goodness that is the plutonia midi pack and was wondering if there are any other quality midi replacement packs for the iwads

Tvr

There’s another currently in development as well. Jimmy led.

Linguica
Jul 13, 2000
You're already dead

anatomi posted:

I find it hilarious that anyone's self-esteem would be so fragile that a tongue in cheek riffing (and suitable given the context) would them feel the sads.

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Realistically, we should probably be tracking who played those games on that difficulty, so we can throw them in prison for the crime of being bad at video games.

SolidSnakesBandana posted:

The games are mocking you for being too sensitive and your reaction is to... be more sensitive? How insecure are you that such a thing bothers you? It's just a joke. The only thing that I can come up with is you're offended because you know in your heart that what they are saying about you is true.

fadam posted:

Every adult is allowed to make the decision of what difficulty they play on, just like how every adult is allowed to decide if they want to wear diapers and carry around a giant rattle.

Cephalectomy posted:

I can't imagine being so emotionally fragile that a video game calling easy difficulty 'baby mode' could upset you. Life must be loving exhausting to people like that.
literally no one in the thread complained about a particular game's skill levels making them feel bad and this was the response lmao. fragility indeed

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Linguica posted:

literally no one in the thread complained about a particular game's skill levels making them feel bad and this was the response lmao. fragility indeed

All of those except the image response came after

ToxicFrog posted:

:yeah:

Difficulty options are good, games that try to shame you for picking the one that's most fun for you can gently caress off.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Linguica posted:

literally no one in the thread complained about a particular game's skill levels making them feel bad and this was the response lmao. fragility indeed

I recall it was a big sticking point last time this discussion happened. It went exactly the same way too.

Manchild King
Oct 22, 2010
Misogynistic, self-absorbed, incredibly unfunny asshole. BLOCK ME or I will steal your face for creepy fetish porn!
Blood didn't even allow strafing originally right? That game is difficult.

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

Old shooters do have some of the best higher difficulties. Often they had greater number of enemies who were also more lethal. That can be a fun challenge if it's not all hitscan. Plenty of other games just add tedium with their difficulty. Vastly increased hit points so combat takes forever or encouraging tedious tactics/prep. Most RPGs the difficulty slider is just "how much time do you want to spend screwing around with consumables and buffs" slider

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Linguica posted:

literally no one in the thread complained about a particular game's skill levels making them feel bad and this was the response lmao. fragility indeed

Linguica I am deadly serious about throwing people in prison for playing games on lower difficulties and I am the least fragile person you'll ever know. They call me "old hickory" because I never bend to nothin (which is what most fragile things tend to do).

GUI
Nov 5, 2005

On the topic of difficulty in shooters I tried the iron man mode on Wolfenstein 2 yesterday and died in the final 10 minutes of the game. :rip:

fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Linguica posted:

literally no one in the thread complained about a particular game's skill levels making them feel bad and this was the response lmao. fragility indeed

Nice damage control pussy. Jealousy is a disease.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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BattleMaster posted:

All of those except the image response came after

yeah, which in itself is a pretty benign statement that i can't imagine anyone getting themselves in a twist over unless they're genuinely taken aback by their worthless videogame achievements being besmirched

literally what the hell you weirdos

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
I love it when nerds get into pissing contests.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
To be fair the real hard mode back then was convincing your parents why they should let you play Duke Nukem 3D even though you were 12 and it had an 18 rating

VVV even stranger, I was allowed to play Duke3D (18 rating) but not Doom (15 rating), I never understood why. Fortunately I got a copy of Doom from someone at school :)

Convex fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Jan 26, 2019

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Amusingly my parents refused to buy me doom but had no problem buying me Duke 3d

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Convex posted:

To be fair the real hard mode back then was convincing your parents why they should let you play Duke Nukem 3D even though you were 12 and it had an 18 rating

All I had to do was spend a lot of time writing a report about the biology of an animal of my choice (the Cuttlefish) which I went way overboard with and my parents were so proud that they bought me the Megaton Edition of Duke 3D. This was like...5th or 6th grade.


It was all downhill from there. I've been in a rapidly decaying moral orbit ever since.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

All I had to do was spend a lot of time writing a report about the biology of an animal of my choice (the Cuttlefish) which I went way overboard with and my parents were so proud that they bought me the Megaton Edition of Duke 3D. This was like...5th or 6th grade.


It was all downhill from there. I've been in a rapidly decaying moral orbit ever since.

Didn't Megaton edition come out in 2013? :v:

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Convex posted:

Didn't Megaton edition come out in 2013? :v:

Yeah, thats why hes so hosed up. He didnt see a 3d game until last year.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Honestly if you spent a lot of time playing Duke 3D when you could have been playing the vastly superior Doom or a year later even Blood, you probably are a little hosed up.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Convex posted:

Didn't Megaton edition come out in 2013? :v:


Barudak posted:

Yeah, thats why hes so hosed up. He didnt see a 3d game until last year.

I meant Atomic Edition but I'm not gonna change it because now it's less clear how old I am and none of you fuckwads can properly dox me. :smug:

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Honestly if you spent a lot of time playing Duke 3D when you could have been playing the vastly superior Doom or a year later even Blood, you probably are a little hosed up.

Doom and Doom 2 are much better games (especially with custom content) but you have to understand just how novel Duke 3D was when it came out.

I remember when a friend showed me the shareware episode and it blew my mind; it felt like anything was possible and we spent like 10 minutes trying to get a pipe bomb to land in a toilet bowl. Looking at the game now you would see immediately the toilet is just a sprite and it's obviously impossible to do something like that, but at the time...

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause
Man what is UP with shooters and lovely sound design!!! Latest update of Ion Maiden changed the reload sfx for the smg and it's just horrible. It sounds like something you'd buy for 1$ off of freesound that some dude recorded in his bedroom with his webcam mic. It doesn't feel good to hear and doesn't seem to match what you'd expect to hear from reloading the smg at all. UGH. Sound design is important! You gotta hear these sounds THOUSANDS of times over the course of a playthrough they better be sweet as gently caress!

I love Half-Life 2 but it had this problem so bad. I don't understand how Kelly Bailey could have made such a good series of slammers for the soundtrack and then have such godawful weapon sfx. Thank gently caress for MMod.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Al Cu Ad Solte posted:

Man what is UP with shooters and lovely sound design!!! Latest update of Ion Maiden changed the reload sfx for the smg and it's just horrible. It sounds like something you'd buy for 1$ off of freesound that some dude recorded in his bedroom with his webcam mic. It doesn't feel good to hear and doesn't seem to match what you'd expect to hear from reloading the smg at all. UGH. Sound design is important! You gotta hear these sounds THOUSANDS of times over the course of a playthrough they better be sweet as gently caress!

I love Half-Life 2 but it had this problem so bad. I don't understand how Kelly Bailey could have made such a good series of slammers for the soundtrack and then have such godawful weapon sfx. Thank gently caress for MMod.

A post after my own sound designer heart :glomp:

I haven't worked on anything famous, but I do strive for excellence no matter what.

ETPC
Jul 10, 2008

Wheel with it.
my parents bought me duke, doom, hexen, heretic, dark forces, quake and quake 2 before i was eight years old

they drew the line at kingpin and sof though. fair tbh.

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Brutal Chex Quest

~Difficulty~

Milk
Juice
-> No Milk <-
Dry Wheatbix

BattleMaster posted:

Doom and Doom 2 are much better games (especially with custom content) but you have to understand just how novel Duke 3D was when it came out.

I remember when a friend showed me the shareware episode and it blew my mind; it felt like anything was possible and we spent like 10 minutes trying to get a pipe bomb to land in a toilet bowl. Looking at the game now you would see immediately the toilet is just a sprite and it's obviously impossible to do something like that, but at the time...

I remember there was a patch notes for the shareware and my friend exclaimed:
"The rockets have smoke trails now!!! "

Al Cu Ad Solte
Nov 30, 2005
Searching for
a righteous cause

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

A post after my own sound designer heart :glomp:

I haven't worked on anything famous, but I do strive for excellence no matter what.

I don't know if my having really acute synesthesia has something to do with it but sound effects in movies/games is a super huge deal for me. I had a hard time with Resident Evil 7 because they were still using 10+ year old SFX from RE4. :barf:

ETPC posted:

my parents bought me duke, doom, hexen, heretic, dark forces, quake and quake 2 before i was eight years old

they drew the line at kingpin and sof though. fair tbh.

I wanted to get Quake 2 but my dad convinced me to play Half-Life instead. Parenting done, uh, right? ....Left?? I was allowed to play SOF but NOT Kingpin.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Good games will let you change difficulty between missions.

Better games will let you change it during play.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Cream-of-Plenty posted:

Brutal Chex Quest
I'm really disappointed that someone hasn't done this yet.

Argus Zant
Nov 18, 2012

Wer ist bereit zu tanzen?

site posted:

To completely change the subject I am rediscovering the goodness that is the plutonia midi pack and was wondering if there are any other quality midi replacement packs for the iwads

the best suggestion I can give is these here midis which are recordings of the original soundtracks being performed on an SC-55 like they were composed on (as opposed to the instrumentation being imitated by the user's sound card like it normally is).

Flannelette
Jan 17, 2010


Al Cu Ad Solte posted:

I don't know if my having really acute synesthesia has something to do with it but sound effects in movies/games is a super huge deal for me. I had a hard time with Resident Evil 7 because they were still using 10+ year old SFX from RE4. :barf:


I wanted to get Quake 2 but my dad convinced me to play Half-Life instead. Parenting done, uh, right? ....Left?? I was allowed to play SOF but NOT Kingpin.

Good dad, also letting you play SOF and not Kingpin is good: imagine how much swearing you'd start to do in public.

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The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Casimir Radon posted:

I'm really disappointed that someone hasn't done this yet.
If you play Chex Quest 3 using Samsara and a class that isn't the Chex Guy, monsters will splatter satisfyingly upon being introduced to actual, non-teleporter-ray firepower.

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