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SKULL.GIF posted:It's really nice having a fight where there's shrewdness and cleverness being used instead of just punch harder. The fight having an actual objective that will presumably actually accomplish something rather than "idk punch him for an indefinite amount of time until he finishes dying from the rewind drug" helps a whole lot to make it a bit more interesting, though it feels very weird to have all the OfA ghosts suddenly start crowing about how Deku is a surprisingly technical fighter who uses the quirks in unexpected ways and is also suicidally selfless, given that they've been with him for quite a while now and he pretty much constantly displays those two traits in every fight. Hell, he literally used a trick from the Nagant fight and they specifically called it out, it shouldn't be surprising to these dudes at this point. It's like peanut gallery filler commentary. Kanos fucked around with this message at 12:07 on Feb 19, 2024 |
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I'm baffled by the Smokescreen guy insisting his Quirk is the least useful last chapter when, no? Why would you think?
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Blueberry Pancakes posted:I'm baffled by the Smokescreen guy insisting his Quirk is the least useful last chapter when, no? Why would you think? He thinks it's useless because Shigaraki has Search, which can see through it, which is why Deku comes up with a countermeasure.
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Feb 19, 2024 12:48
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"My quirk is useless!" That kind of thinking is why he's dead.
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Kanos posted:He thinks it's useless because Shigaraki has Search, which can see through it, which is why Deku comes up with a countermeasure. Having danger sense helps him a lot here, as well.
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Gotta admit I find the idea of Deku giving up OFA to be a downer
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Flesnolk posted:Gotta admit I find the idea of Deku giving up OFA to be a downer I don't, it's very appropriate. Becoming the greatest hero should require some sacrifice, not just the ability to Punch Good.
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Mymla posted:I don't, it's very appropriate. Becoming the greatest hero should require some sacrifice, not just the ability to Punch Good. I also find it to be a downer (approvingly)
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Flesnolk posted:Gotta admit I find the idea of Deku giving up OFA to be a downer tbh I kinda expected it ever since the whole idea of Quirks being force ghosts with their own agency that can rebel against who stole them came up. I guess it’s a downer but someone like Deku who loves analyzing quirks so much could honestly do the world more good by becoming a support equipment maker anyway.
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'Course, given the state of his body currently, methinks he's not going to be doing any heroing at the end Maybe he becomes a teacher that serves as a warning not to recklessly use your quirk
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Deku should become Mei's ideas guy.
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Mymla posted:Deku should become Mei's ideas guy. My Hero Middle Management
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he's gonna end up left with one, probably blackwhip which is very obviously horikoshi's favorite and which he already has used for a form of pseudo super strength. that cleanly resolves the "more than one quirk is maybe bad for your body" non-issue to boot.
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Valentin posted:he's gonna end up left with one, probably blackwhip which is very obviously horikoshi's favorite and which he already has used for a form of pseudo super strength. that cleanly resolves the "more than one quirk is maybe bad for your body" non-issue to boot. Yeah this is where I'm at. Turn Deku into just Spider-Man instead of all the heroes.
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cool kids inc. posted:Yeah this is where I'm at. Turn Deku into just Spider-Man instead of all the heroes. But he lost his Spider-sense.
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He could end up being the tech type hero from his original design.
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Vinylshadow posted:'Course, given the state of his body currently, methinks he's not going to be doing any heroing at the end Forever following in the footsteps of All Might.
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Elite posted:Forever following in the footsteps of All Might. In that both of them are are an example of how not destroying yourself would have resulted in the collapse of society
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It would've taken Goku 3 seasons to beat All 4 One
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Eggplant Squire posted:In that both of them are are an example of how not destroying yourself would have resulted in the collapse of society It's really funny how the attempted moral of "maybe turning yourself into superhero jesus and singlehandedly becoming the pillar on which society itself rests is a bad idea" falls apart immediately because if the two people who did it didn't do it society would either be ruled by a capricious sociopath or everyone would be dead.
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Valentin posted:he's gonna end up left with one, probably blackwhip which is very obviously horikoshi's favorite and which he already has used for a form of pseudo super strength. that cleanly resolves the "more than one quirk is maybe bad for your body" non-issue to boot. That didn’t need resolving, it was never a problem for Deku because he was quirkless
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Yeah the problem was there's likely no one in the future that'll be quirkless and be worthy of OFA
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It’s probably too strong at this point to be transferred to anyone anymore, even someone quirkless
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RatHat posted:It’s probably too strong at this point to be transferred to anyone anymore, even someone quirkless Strong as in “counts as a lot of different quirks, will probably put undue strain on the user”, or just too strong like Twice was once he overcame his emotional trauma and used his Death Flag Parade?
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Last Celebration posted:Strong as in “counts as a lot of different quirks, will probably put undue strain on the user”, or just too strong like Twice was once he overcame his emotional trauma and used his Death Flag Parade? Strong as in "it gets enormously stronger with every generation so the next person after Deku will inherit it and blow their entire body into pineapple salad by trying to lift a moderately heavy object". OfA is already goofy Twice-level strong narratively even without the pile of extra quirks; the issue was always that it had so much power that actually using it was impractical to impossible.
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Yeah there are two issues with OFA: - Having more than one quirk(all the quirks inside OFA count as a single quirk) is bad for your body so anyone with an existing quirk who receives OFA has their lifespan reduced - OFA becomes stronger over time which puts a bigger strain on the user’s body(and also makes the previous issue worse) Deku is effectively the last user because it’s now too strong to safely pass on, even to someone quirkless(they’ll just blow up their limbs when they first activate it) and if it’s passed to someone with an existing quirk they probably wouldn’t last a month anyway
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RatHat posted:Yeah there are two issues with OFA: Granny smoochin' a pile of tomato soup going "It's ok you're all better now" before unceremoniously tossing spaghetti in the quirk exploded limb juice.
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I suppose passing it to someone with super regeneration could work but it’d be a bit awkward to blow up your arm everytime you punch
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RatHat posted:I suppose passing it to someone with super regeneration could work but it’d be a bit awkward to blow up your arm everytime you punch Wait. Give it to Eri.
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I thought the whole reason Deku used to blow his limbs off was that his effed up hero worship of All Might combined with having to learn fundamentals of handling a quirk led him to use the move as a super nuke his body wasn’t equipped to handle rather than an extension of himself by spreading the energy out? And then later on he deliberately overclocked himself because he was forced into real bad situations like with Muscular. That’s what I remember at least. We know that All Might had an innate aptitude for OFA but that was just one aspect of a multifaceted utility quirk you can argue that he wasn’t all that great at it either.
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OfA has two parts: the strength stockpiling/transferring part which is the original core quirk, and the additional quirks inherited from the users during the transference process which are incidental and nobody really knew they existed until Deku. All Might was a genius/master of using the core quirk. Nobody knew the other quirks still existed until Deku triggered blackwhip.
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Another thought regarding that: All Might was not Deku when he was younger, nor did he grow up in a comparable time. The way I see it, All Might got OfA and thought of it as simply more power. He wasn't somebody who studied quirks and considered their pros/cons, nor was he really able to have that kind of hobby given the circumstances. So the quirk was just "you're the superest superhuman, just like you thought this would make you." This is all headcanon baloney from me, but I do think Deku has been able to access the prior quirks because he's been the only user with the interest/imagination to do so. It's not like his body is uniquely attuned to the quirk, he can barely handle its power as is. If Deku wasn't the little weirdo that he is, there's a good chance he'd wind up an All Might Jr when it's all said and done. I'm not a fiction scientist, this is just how I've thought about it.
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RatHat posted:I suppose passing it to someone with super regeneration could work but it’d be a bit awkward to blow up your arm everytime you punch Wouldn't they still die of old age in their 20s?
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Weirdly enough, Deku sounds like he has the right type of mindset to use All-For-One effectively, creating combos no one has dreamed of.
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Didn't Deku canonically give OfA briefly to Baukgo?
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Frankly the world is lucky that no OfA user ever hired a less than ethical prostitute
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ImpAtom posted:Didn't Deku canonically give OfA briefly to Baukgo? Happened in the second movie, I think Bakugo just gave it back after they were done special effecting the villain to near death together though
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Caidin posted:Happened in the second movie, I think Bakugo just gave it back after they were done special effecting the villain to near death together though No, Bakugo just passed out so it didn't take because reasons It's dumb
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It's kinda funny too knowing what we know now. Wonder if the anime team knew about that cause IIRC that plot point came after the movie came out.
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