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One of the flaws with BG magic is that its either trivialised or its devastating. Like you said, silencing him is cheesy but it works. Potions or scrolls of fire resistance/absorption too for that fight, though slightly less. So I don't think you cheesed him, really.
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You used your limited resources and crowd control magic to take down a boss? That's not cheesing, friend; now you're playing the game.
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I silenced him before he could even talk, while he was still covered by fog of war. Kinda cheesy... Idk, silence has more or less become my most used spell. Problem was, once his protections kicked in he was more or less immune to everything, and casting dispel took longer than him casting a fireball. Hard as balls, that fight.
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Dec 9, 2014 08:56
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Wolfsheim posted:They either sit there or leave forever, if I'm remembering right. I think non-good characters will only leave forever if your reputation is too high
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Dec 9, 2014 10:10
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Ohhh, looking forward to another Ironman thread soon. I've never gotten past Werewolf Island that way, but I'm not able to play BG like a scrub anymore (drat you X-Com and CK2!). 
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:Oh please. To be a 12F/13C you only need 2.5 million XP, and seeing how you can get the 8 mln before brynnlaw this should be more than possible early on Since you're here... ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:There will be on Sunday ... any news on this (removing EE content from BG2)?
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Yeah uh I was busy studying logic this weekend sorry But this won't be hard to do in a few minutes. Since all PC and OSX and Linux versions can only come with all the DLCs added, the HasDLC(S:) trigger is essentially a glorified True() trigger; except it's only used in the added content. So even adding ! before it would disable all scripts depending on it. Though with Beamdog's stellar website I don't actually know which NPC's are in all versions. Jesus. Removing the ~new portraits~ is probably impossible, though. Also I could probably remove the Black Pits option from the game start menu, since they streamlined the GUI elements handling 
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Dec 9, 2014 20:48
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I think I'm going to play a Ranger/Cleric for the Ironman attempt (I predict I won't get past TFAI). I've always played a thief or FMT (only successful completion was as a a FMT). What's the most fun race and party to do use for the EE edition? The only other thief I've ever taken in BG1 and 2 was Imoen (duel classed to mage).
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Dec 9, 2014 23:59
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Two questions... Before fixing the bridge in Icewind Dale, can't I free the slaves? It looked like the temperature control machine was not 'useable' and thus I couldn't do anything with it. Second, the ninja-to and wakazashi or whatever they are called... Are these weapons worth specialising in? I've never tried and good ones seem few and far between. Never understood what's the deal with them.
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BadAstronaut posted:Two questions... Before fixing the bridge in Icewind Dale, can't I free the slaves? It looked like the temperature control machine was not 'useable' and thus I couldn't do anything with it. To free the slaves, talk to the named one on the opposite side of the room from the guy who gives you the repair manual.
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BadAstronaut posted:Two questions... Before fixing the bridge in Icewind Dale, can't I free the slaves? It looked like the temperature control machine was not 'useable' and thus I couldn't do anything with it. Only for a druid I would say. In the EE they included a scimitar which gives +1 APR which is badass. Not sure if its a random drop or what.
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The Scarlet Ninja-to is great if used by a thief with UAI.
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Comstar posted:I think I'm going to play a Ranger/Cleric for the Ironman attempt (I predict I won't get past TFAI). I've always played a thief or FMT (only successful completion was as a a FMT). What's the most fun race and party to do use for the EE edition? The only other thief I've ever taken in BG1 and 2 was Imoen (duel classed to mage). Play Ironman as a Wild Mage, bring the npc Wild Mage with you, only memorize Nahals Reckless Dweomer for all your first level slots.
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I just wrapped up chapter 4 in BG1 and got back to Beregost to sell some stuff. Loaded up my save this evening and my recent auto- and quick-saves won't load. My previous save is at the beginning of Cloakwood Mine for some reason. I've owned BG1 & 2 for so long but never put the time into them, mostly because 2nd edition broke my little 9 year old brain. I don't want to go through the mines again.  e: salvation. spider wisdom fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Dec 11, 2014 |
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Apart from Xan, my ironman hp rolls have been brutal.  edit: Everyone but my dwarf died in a wyvern ambush, RIP. Ratios and Tendency fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Dec 10, 2014 |
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Dec 10, 2014 03:27
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Ratios and Tendency posted:edit: Everyone but my dwarf died in a wyvern ambush, RIP.
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so are we gonna just use this thread for the ironman thing?
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We've always used other threads before, because not everyone's interested and the screenshots tend to clog the thread a bit. Also because you want an OP to refer to and to immortalise the victors. I was going to wait for the new year, but I definitely can start it up this week if people are already setting out. Probably got more free time now than I will around the beginning of January anyway, to be honest. Anyone got a compelling reason I shouldn't?
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Anyone got a compelling reason I shouldn't? I personally won't have time for for a solid effort until the new year, but that's not a compelling reason for anyone that isn't me. If people are keen then I'd recommend starting it either this weekend or next week (and give people a heads-up in advance) - it's good to start these threads off strong with people ready to post interesting updates, and not just a page or two of "here's my character fresh out of Candlekeep/Château Irenicus".
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Wait until the new year, I wouldn't mind giving it a go (though I haven't played the original Baldur's Gate in so long I'll probably die on that dude at the Inn if a wolf doesn't get me first)
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Tarnesh!  May a suggest a counter in the next Ironman OP to keep track of which NPC or mob kills the most characters?
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:Yeah uh I was busy studying logic this weekend sorry Personally, the only thing I really care about is removing the NPCs and content related to them. Black Pits/new portraits? Couldn't care less.
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Cant you just kill them on sight? EDIT: How do I get the new BGEE portraits into BG2EE and vice versa? bongwizzard fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Dec 10, 2014 |
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I would love to do an ironman with y'all, but would also like to wait until after the holidays, since I'm waiting to pick up both EEs when Steam does a massive sale.
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Anyone have strategies for dealing with the BG1 Duchal Palace fight in Ironman? Especially solo. That fight was really close to killing my successful run in the last thread and I was thinking of trying a solo ironman run for the next one but that fight is the one thing I can't come up with anything resembling a reliable strategy for. Especially not a reliable solo strategy.
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Spek posted:Anyone have strategies for dealing with the BG1 Duchal Palace fight in Ironman? Especially solo. That fight was really close to killing my successful run in the last thread and I was thinking of trying a solo ironman run for the next one but that fight is the one thing I can't come up with anything resembling a reliable strategy for. Especially not a reliable solo strategy. What's your limiting factor? Getting killed, or Lila and Belt getting killed? If the former, depends on your class. Roid the gently caress out if you're a warrior. With an oil of speed, potion of power, potion of 24 strength, and so on, you should absolutely tear up all the dopplegangers. If you're a mage, the dopplegangers are most dangerous because they're fast as hell. Casting SLOW in that room will really change things up for the better. If your problem is with Lila and Belt getting killed, focus on just 1 (Belt's stronger; keep him). Otiluke's doesn't work anymore; it's viewed as hostile and will end your game. So maybe summon undead/summon monsters around him and try and just box him in. I've no idea how I'd tackle this fight with a solo rogue or solo cleric. Maybe the solo cleric just summons undead near Belt to protect him, then sanctuaries and hopes the flaming fist can thin the ranks? The thief would need a ton of hasted backstabs, but would probably see Belt get chunked before completion. That fight and the Aec'Lectec are the 2 most terrifying fights in the game on an ironman run.
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I'm rusty on BG1....what fight is that?
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Mzbundifund posted:Depends, what class is your solo guy? Any, really. I haven't decided what I'm going to try for my next attempt, probably either Monk or a Cleric/Thief. I've done solo playthroughs with a Monk and a Sorcerer and that fight was a savescum fest both times. I'd love to figure out a reliable way to do it with a Monk but I'm not sure it's possible. In a normal solo playthrough I just pretty much throw myself at it until I'm lucky enough for the Doppelgangers to focus on either me or the random mooks instead of the dukes. But that obviously wouldn't work, unless I was very lucky, for an ironman solo. FairGame posted:What's your limiting factor? Getting killed, or Lila and Belt getting killed? FairGame posted:I've no idea how I'd tackle this fight with a solo rogue or solo cleric. Maybe the solo cleric just summons undead near Belt to protect him, then sanctuaries and hopes the flaming fist can thin the ranks? The thief would need a ton of hasted backstabs, but would probably see Belt get chunked before completion. Bort Bortles posted:I'm rusty on BG1....what fight is that? The last fight before you go to the maze that ultimately leads to the end boss. The one where you have to fight a bunch of Greater Doppelgangers amongst a few friendlies and instantly game over if both Dukes die.
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I forgot another horrible area for ironman: coming back to ulgoths beard with the dagger. You don't have time to reposition, there are no ioun stones in bg1 to protect against crits, and those loving assassins come out of nowhere and can chunk a Mage. It's enough that I won't play a mage on an ironman game. I do want to do something new, though. Maybe an avenger.
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If we wind up not starting until after the Holidays, I'll probably be pulling out all the cheese, playing an Inquisitor again, and doing Ironman/Insane again.
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Spek posted:The last fight before you go to the maze that ultimately leads to the end boss. The one where you have to fight a bunch of Greater Doppelgangers amongst a few friendlies and instantly game over if both Dukes die. Ahh okay, forgot about that one. I think the only time I did that one I clowned the doppelgangers because I got lucky with my party positioning and the party was nuts.
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Finished off Icewind Dale and it's assorted expansions. Still a drat fine game and it was fun being able to play the expansions I missed back in the day. Had it bug out with the export function at the end and it would crash but whatever. My big question is how's the Baldurs Gate saga on iPad. I know the enhanced editions are buggy, but is it anything game breaking or will I be able to deal? Icewind Dale was pretty stable with only the ammo bag issues and two quests glitching.
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FairGame posted:I forgot another horrible area for ironman: coming back to ulgoths beard with the dagger. You don't have time to reposition, there are no ioun stones in bg1 to protect against crits, and those loving assassins come out of nowhere and can chunk a Mage.
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Secret to keeping Liia and Belt alive is summons. Just surround them with summons and that will give you enough time to thin out the doppelganger. So basically unless you're a warrior type then you can do it no problem. As a solo warrior you're kinda hosed and just need to count on taking down the doppelganger faster than they can take down Belt and Liia.
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Ugh, i had forgotten how terrible the NPC system can be in BG1, im feeling like dropping khalid to pick up another fighter, and that means dropping jaheira. But i don't really have a divine caster to replace her with because branwen is four levels behind my party, at a shy level 2. Im only in chapter 3 and pretty good aligned. Guess I need Jaheira if I want that divine caster.
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