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paranoid randroid posted:if hussie got ideas from this thread the comic would just be vriska clowning everyone forever Hussie would just go with the best of both worlds and have everyone make googly eyes and croon compliments to Vriska forever.
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RZApublican posted:Hussie would just go with the best of both worlds and have everyone make googly eyes and croon compliments to Vriska forever. You know, I think I'd be okay with this.
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Jun 23, 2015 05:26
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Hussie, if you're reading this, don't not think about horses if you're bringing Aranea back.
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WAR FOOT posted:Hussie, if you're reading this, don't not think about horses if you're bringing Aranea back. Araneahoofsprite?
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Jun 23, 2015 05:32
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Ariong posted:Aw, crushes. I don't think Terezi will try to pursue this relationship anytime soon. I think she might. The way I see it, this John/Terezi thing was actually part of the pre-retcon Terezi's plan. The seemingly purposeless scarf instructions she gave John - stealing and returning the stuffed dragon - were explained as Terezi just loving with John, but she did it by making John prank her past self. She created a situation where both of them would feel playfully antagonized by the other. After all, one of the biggest mistakes Terezi made pre-retcon was dating Gamzee. If she wanted to fix her personal timeline, it'd make sense to set herself up in a healthier relationship.
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Two Inch Bee posted:I think she might. The way I see it, this John/Terezi thing was actually part of the pre-retcon Terezi's plan. The seemingly purposeless scarf instructions she gave John - stealing and returning the stuffed dragon - were explained as Terezi just loving with John, but she did it by making John prank her past self. She created a situation where both of them would feel playfully antagonized by the other. And the first thing she ever said to John was that she was going to slit his throat and smell him die. Can't get much healthier than that.
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Two Inch Bee posted:I think she might. The way I see it, this John/Terezi thing was actually part of the pre-retcon Terezi's plan. The seemingly purposeless scarf instructions she gave John - stealing and returning the stuffed dragon - were explained as Terezi just loving with John, but she did it by making John prank her past self. She created a situation where both of them would feel playfully antagonized by the other. Her setting up that blackrom is really hosed up and gross, and I feel bad for John for having to deal with it. 
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^^^^What, really? It's just some cross-timeline flirting, that's harmless.Burkion posted:And the first thing she ever said to John was that she was going to slit his throat and smell him die. In troll blackrom terms that's basically "Nice shoes, wanna gently caress?" If John had Karkat's relationship knowledge he'd have been offended by such a clumsy come-on. John's problem is that the more the idea of such a relationship antagonizes and weirds him out, the more he's playing into it by getting annoyed and flustered by Terezi. It's like a Chinese finger trap, the only way out is if he mellowed about it. Although it'll be worth it to see Roxy's reaction when she figures out Terezi is alien-hate-macking on her would-be boyfriend.
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Jun 23, 2015 06:04
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"lol" if you cant appreciate terezis sincere commitment to thoroughly wrecking human nerds, even while in the process of bleeding to death.
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Jun 23, 2015 06:11
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paranoid randroid posted:"lol" if you cant appreciate terezis sincere commitment to thoroughly wrecking human nerds, even while in the process of bleeding to death. This, but unironically
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Dolash posted:John's problem is that the more the idea of such a relationship antagonizes and weirds him out, the more he's playing into it by getting annoyed and flustered by Terezi. It's like a Chinese finger trap, the only way out is if he mellowed about it. I'm sure that Jasprosesprite^2 can take the initiative and prototype Terezi and Roxy with the remaining Kernelsprite to form Teroxysprite^2, a perfectly-balanced amalgam of human and troll traits and romantic ideals that can serve as John's ideal girlfriend and goddammit I've written the plot to their new universe's second romcom haven't I
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Jun 23, 2015 06:21
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Burkion posted:Please, you kidding me? John would get a Stand. It would be named Dust in the Wind.
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Jun 23, 2015 06:22
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Burkion posted:And the first thing she ever said to John was that she was going to slit his throat and smell him die. Well. Healthier for her, anyway.
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RZApublican posted:I'm sure that Jasprosesprite^2 can take the initiative and prototype Terezi and Roxy with the remaining Kernelsprite to form Teroxysprite^2, a perfectly-balanced amalgam of human and troll traits and romantic ideals that can serve as John's ideal girlfriend and goddammit I've written the plot to their new universe's second romcom haven't I All I'm saying is, if Karkat actually took this crazy misadventure as inspiration, he would churn out romcoms like ookbeasts on text bangers. Him and Rose, and wouldn't that be a pair?
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Jun 23, 2015 07:50
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Truly a moirallegiance for the ages. you may be asking what about karkles<>gams but makara is dumb clown trash so who cares
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Jun 23, 2015 11:17
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Terezi didn't do the scarf poo poo just to gently caress with John or her alt-self or whatever, that's just what John thinks because he can't see the bigger picture
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Indecisive posted:Terezi didn't do the scarf poo poo just to gently caress with John or her alt-self or whatever, that's just what John thinks because he can't see the bigger picture Yeah there was that hesitation from Terezi when he asks if she was just loving with him which makes me think stealing the stuffed dragons is going to be relevant later. Or else it's just more random poo poo Hussie threw in just in case he figured out a way to call back to it sometime so we could all go  you mean he was planning this all along??
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Dolash posted:^^^^What, really? It's just some cross-timeline flirting, that's harmless. If that was actually the purpose of those actions, then what actually happened there was Terezi telling John "you have to put your complete trust in my abilities as a Seer of Mind and do exactly what I'm telling you to do, it's the only way to fix everything" and exploiting that trust to set herself up with a good relationship. Almost exactly what Dirk did, in other words. So, no, not really seeing how it's harmless.
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frozentreasure posted:If that was actually the purpose of those actions, then what actually happened there was Terezi telling John "you have to put your complete trust in my abilities as a Seer of Mind and do exactly what I'm telling you to do, it's the only way to fix everything" and exploiting that trust to set herself up with a good relationship. Almost exactly what Dirk did, in other words. So, no, not really seeing how it's harmless. well its not like the explicit purpose of all the instructions was to make her crush on the guy. it may have been one of her goals, but even so it isnt like it was just for shits and giggles. well ok, some giggles. this is terezi were talking about. i think its a little uncharitable to put her nefarious plan to make john antagonize her by moving stuffed animals around on the same level as dirk bulldogging jake into a relationship through a bizarre, smothering web of self-referential dirkism.
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Jun 23, 2015 14:54
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Plus, moving dragons does not result in brain damage.
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I think it's worth mentioning that Dirk/AR set up a Jigsaw-esque flesh riddle where Jake was forced to make out with Dirk's severed head in order to save the lives of his friends. Terezi could probably go a long way before hitting that particular milestone in weird relationship manipulation. e: man, going through the archives for the page made me realise I forgot that one time where Jake beat the stuffing out of Meenah. He really used to be a lot more gung-ho!
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Android Blues posted:I think it's worth mentioning that Dirk/AR set up a Jigsaw-esque flesh riddle where Jake was forced to make out with Dirk's severed head in order to save the lives of his friends. Terezi could probably go a long way before hitting that particular milestone in weird relationship manipulation. To be super fair, she stone cold did not give a gently caress. What is it with Trolls and having a Black crush on John anyways. First Karkat
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Android Blues posted:e: man, going through the archives for the page made me realise I forgot that one time where Jake beat the stuffing out of Meenah. He really used to be a lot more gung-ho! Yeah, but then he came to the realization that his whole thing about loving adventure and danger was really just a facade, or rather a coping mechanism to help himself deal with life alone on hellmurder island. Now that he doesn't need it anymore he's kind of unsure who he is. He just needs some time, I think.
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John is a huge goober and acts in a way that's antithetical to everything troll society values. Karkat and Terezi both have a complicated relationship with their society's values where they appreciate and often embody them, but are fundamentally good people underneath the spiteful bluster, so someone who can just uncomplicatedly be a good person probably triggers their "I admire him/wish I could be like that" and "god get a load of this cull-worthy nerd" responses in equal measure. This is fertile soil for black romance. It just makes sense really!
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Jun 23, 2015 16:10
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john brings out the bestworst in people, hes just that kind of guy
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Jun 23, 2015 16:11
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John is pretty much everything Jake isn't and what everyone wanted Jake to be.
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Jun 23, 2015 16:40
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John's goobery sweetness is basically the troll equivalent of playing hard to get.
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It's pretty obvious that Terezi's quote:TEREZI: 1 W4S 4LMOST C3RT41NLY FUCK1NG W1TH YOU was her just running with it (and using the chance to mess with John) because she doesn't really know most of what her doomed self intended, even if she can probably infer the general idea. Just running with it is something Terezi always does.
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Zoe posted:Yeah there was that hesitation from Terezi when he asks if she was just loving with him which makes me think stealing the stuffed dragons is going to be relevant later. Honestly I thought the real point with the dragon plush stuff was to befuddle retconned Terezi. Get her to question what's happening and who's responsible a bit more. Jump to conclusions a bit less.
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Who What Now posted:John is pretty much everything Jake isn't and what everyone wanted Jake to be. I've never agreed with a post on this forum more than I do this one.
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Blackheart posted:It's pretty obvious that Terezi's Who What Now posted:John is pretty much everything Jake isn't and what everyone wanted Jake to be. It just occurred to me that if he chose, John would actually make a pretty good therapist, unlike Rose, who has realized that she only spouted the terms.
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Grapplejack posted:Her setting up that blackrom is really hosed up and gross, and I feel bad for John for having to deal with it. To be fair, it's kind of cute in a hosed up time travel retcon sort of way. She knew she had a problematic relationship with Gamzee. He was an abusive poo poo who made her feel miserable. Her and Dave dating was also bad because, as we can see how close Dave and Karkat are, it probably drove a wedge between her and Karkat (and potentially Dave and Karkat as well). So she had no one to tell her "Yo, this horrible gross clown is really obnoxious" other than drunk-rear end Rose (and saving Vriska is just kind of a lucky break). So she sets it up so that she has a blackrom with someone who isn't really CAPABLE of being the abusive shitheel that Gamzee was. John's a prankster at heart, and everyone doubts that he can actually legitimately HATE anyone to that degree. Dude is just the nicest guy. But he does get frustrated and annoyed with Terezi's stupid and pointless little sidequest. So she taunts and teases him, and voila. Three years later she's making spade eyes at John and she's in a HEALTHY Blackrom where they're both equals and tease/taunt each other rather than one of them belittling and attacking the other.
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I predict that the way Rose will enhance her brand is to finally go on her effing Quest.
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Classtoise posted:To be fair, it's kind of cute in a hosed up time travel retcon sort of way. Karkat said that a good black romance needs a solid foundation of respect; there needs to be parts of your rival you like. Terezi didn't have that with Gamzee, he's worthless clown trash. Letting him get under her skin made her feel degraded and it messed her up a lot, as we all know. I think Terezi setting herself up with John was mainly to get her away from Gamzee. John presents a much better option, with a lot of admirable qualities - he's even got a lot of skill at the reading and handling people she so prides herself on, but in a different way that probably would be great for this kind of relationship. If she gets a crush on him she's less likely to get down with the clown. In that respect, I don't think it matters whether he returns the feeling, or even whether he can, which is still an open question. Tl;dr - I don't think Terezi was trying to hook herself up so much as trying to just point herself in a different direction. Tl;dr - I have too many opinions on cartoon alien romance. I have stared into the abyss, and the abyss has wonked back.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I predict that the way Rose will enhance her brand is to finally go on her effing Quest. Flipping off that cutesy pastel bullshit is a quintessential part of Studio Rose though.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I predict that the way Rose will enhance her brand is to finally go on her effing Quest. Hear, hear. Today is Roxy alone time. I'm predicting very little dialog.
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Renaissance Robot posted:Flipping off that cutesy pastel bullshit is a quintessential part of Studio Rose though. I think that's part of the challenge. Like, here is an entire planet designed to piss you off, now hold your nose and knock back this sugar shocked candy quest.
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Tenebrais posted:Tl;dr - I have too many opinions on cartoon alien romance. I have stared into the abyss, and the abyss has 
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