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Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

people who care about shady money and far right propagandists have some good reasons to want to know who they talk to, and about what, a month before they win a GE imo

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Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
I'm watching the itv debate. Do Brits usually have debates before elections? Because it looks a bit badly organized.

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Randler posted:

I'm watching the itv debate. Do Brits usually have debates before elections? Because it looks a bit badly organized.

The German has logged on

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Randler posted:

I'm watching the itv debate. Do Brits usually have debates before elections? Because it looks a bit badly organized unstaged.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Randler posted:

I'm watching the itv debate. Do Brits usually have debates before elections? Because it looks a bit badly organized.

No

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Dear Jam man,

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
https://twitter.com/tankiejack/status/1196891221236617216?s=19

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

the nice thing about the debate is that despite jo swinson not being present, this has still resulted in every single solid lib dem position being thoroughly articulated

DeadButDelicious
Oct 11, 2012

Leave me to do my dark bidding on the internet!
For some reason this cursed image has me giggling like a buffoon:

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
This dumb American who watched was surprised how short the debate was and how stupid it was that half the questions were about :decorum:

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers
Audience groaned at Corbyn bringing up the effects of climate change in poor countries too. Why are you like this Brits??

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

Bryter posted:

Audience groaned at Corbyn bringing up the effects of climate change in poor countries too. Why are you like this Brits??

The British are scum.

BioMe
Aug 9, 2012


Seriously, I can't imagine that happening unless you were debating in front of an assembly of far right activists.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Bryter posted:

Audience groaned at Corbyn bringing up the effects of climate change in poor countries too. Why are you like this Brits??

Are you familiar with how the brit TV picks their audience?

Horseshoe theory
Mar 7, 2005

Bryter posted:

Audience groaned at Corbyn bringing up the effects of climate change in poor countries too. Why are you like this Brits??

Winston "I want to genocide anyone browner than a paper bag" Churchill is often listed at or near the the very top of Greatest Briton and Greatest British Prime Minister polls - it's clear that Britain, like America, has always been CHUDly.

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

genericnick posted:

Are you familiar with how the brit TV picks their audience?

I'm assuming they take out full page ads in oval office's digest

Rollie Fingers
Jul 28, 2002

Bryter posted:

Audience groaned at Corbyn bringing up the effects of climate change in poor countries too. Why are you like this Brits??

Half of the audience (probably more) would have been Tories. They don't believe in global warming and they're extremely racist.

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

At least they dropped the initial plan to have the Jam Man wear clown shoes and a red plastic nose.

I'm watching it on the catch-up channel so hoping they still have the planned end to the debate, where Farage sings Rule Britannia surround by a bevy of Brexit babes in Union Jack bikinis.

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aMjAJApyg4

This popped up on my sidebar and despite being mostly terrible I got a few sensible chuckles from it. Like the original it gets a bit better after that awful piano melancholy at the start.

Hillary 2024
Nov 13, 2016

by vyelkin
The UK in a single poll. Corbyn is more trustworthy and in touch with the common man but Boris is more likeable and more prime ministerial.

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1196908517434830850?s=20

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

lads,

https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1196887278779600897?s=19

Hillary 2024
Nov 13, 2016

by vyelkin
The decorum shields cannae hold captain...

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

jesus christ

https://twitter.com/LibDemPress/status/1196895661230305289?s=19

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Hillary 2020 posted:

The UK in a single poll. Corbyn is more trustworthy and in touch with the common man but Boris is more likeable and more prime ministerial.

https://twitter.com/SamCoatesSky/status/1196908517434830850?s=20

Does "Prime Ministerial" just mean you can imagine this person using your child as a foot stool to step down from a gilded carriage?

DeadButDelicious
Oct 11, 2012

Leave me to do my dark bidding on the internet!

So delusional I almost pity them.

No I don't actually. At all.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Voters should be replaced with Nick Clegg staring at her tits

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010


The entire anglosphere wants me to jump off a bridge

Valko
Sep 18, 2015
I was the one who admitted that I thought Jo Swinson was attractive. Everyone can have an unflattering photo taken but still I take back everything I said.

Possibly very NMS:

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Bryter posted:

I'm assuming they take out full page ads in oval office's digest

why do men called clint even have a magazine about kerning problems

Valko
Sep 18, 2015
https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1196894851477975041

Jesus, the tabloid press isn't wasting any time trying to do damage control:

Election ITV debate: Viewers furious as host repeatedly ’cuts Boris off’

Boris narrowly defeats Corbyn in ITV election debate but misses out on ‘knockout blow’

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
The voters want to gently caress Jo Swinson?

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

i cannot get over how boris johnson just outright lies like it's no thing and keeps getting away with it

politicians spin and evade, and that's annoying but expected. outright saying things that are not true which you've been called out on is not normal spin! jesus

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
What the actual gently caress is this?


Bluster from smirking Johnson; fudge from freshly trimmed Corbyn
John Crace



Tory and Labour leaders manage an insincere handshake in an S&M dungeon – but little else

Teeth to be pulled. Eyes to be gouged. Throats to be slit. Most people had wisely made alternative arrangements. But there were still at least 4 million masochists for whom the first leaders’ debate was an essential warm-up to I’m a Celebrity … Get Me Out of Here!. Had Boris Johnson been smothered in a cage full of rats or Jeremy Corbyn been force-fed termites, ITV would have had the surefire ratings winner of the year. Maybe next time.

The prime minister had spent the morning in a blubberweight fight at a Manchester boxing gym, before making another toe-curlingly embarrassing video of him and Carrie Symonds campaigning and going back to his hotel to dishevel his hair. The Labour leader had been to the barbers for a beard trim and had then settled down to two cups of tea and a Caesar salad. Zen.

“I’m hoping the debate will be respectful and informative,” Corbyn said on his way into the Salford studios. Which rather suggested he had learned nothing from his previous televised debates. Because respect invariably comes thinly disguised as open contempt – the TV companies wouldn’t have it any other way – and, ever since the very first 2010 debate in which David Cameron and Gordon Brown underestimated Nick Clegg, no one has ever learned anything very much. Indeed, the whole purpose of the format is to be as uninformative as possible, with both party leaders sticking to set lines.

An hour before kick-off, the spin room began to fill. First in were Dawn Butler, Richard Burgon, Barry Gardiner, Rebecca Long-Bailey and Andrew Gwynne. Having taken a selfie to put up on Twitter, they positioned themselves in front of TV cameras, managing expectations and saying why Corbyn had basically already won.The Tories held back their big guns of Michael Gove, Dominic Raab, Priti Patel and James Cleverly. Raab was undergoing anger management therapy – “Try not to kill anyone this time, Dom” – while Gove was quietly explaining to Patel and Cleverly that their prime function was to say nothing. In the meantime, Nigel Evans was doing his best to hold the fort. “I’m the Z list,” he said sadly.In the far corner of the room, the Lib Dems’ Tom Brake stood to one side, hoping someone might want to speak to him. No one did. The Brexit party’s Richard Tice wandered around looking slightly lost. Presumably he had arrived a little early for his graveyard 3am slot on the Shopping Channel and had accidentally made his way into the wrong building.Still, Tice would have felt right at home in the ITV studio. All pretence that the debate was a serious contribution to the election campaign had been abandoned when the lights went up on a set that looked like a cross between a 1970s afternoon gameshow and an S&M dungeon. Julie Etchingham got things rolling by asking both leaders to make an opening statement. Corbyn looked uncharacteristically nervous, while Johnson couldn’t help smirking when trying to maintain his serious face.Predictably, the first question was on Brexit. Bingo. It took only one sentence for Boris to utter his first lie. That he had a readymade deal that would deliver a free trade agreement with the EU that could be wrapped up in a matter of months. Etchingham arched an eyebrow. Was he going to die in a ditch on this? Mint some December 2020 coins? The audience sniggered. Corbyn did little better as he continually fudged the issue of whether he would back any deal he renegotiated with the EU. That, too, drew a ripple of laughter.

This rather set the tone for the rest of the hour. No one really landed any telling blows, with the whole show descending into second-rate light entertainment. Even Prince Andrew could probably have made a better fist of answering the questions. Despite talking over Corbyn and Etchingham at every opportunity – his ego can’t allow the possibility of conversation – Johnson reverted to bluster and lies while trying to steer everything back to his Brexit deal that he had rejected 18 months previously.

Corbyn couldn’t even take advantage of the most open of goals. One questioner asked about personal trust. Here was the Labour leader’s chance to ask Boris how many children he had, his relationship with Jennifer Arcuri and his broken promises to family and country. It would have been a slam-dunk moment that could have maybe changed the momentum of the election. But Corbyn blew it. The first half ended with an insincere handshake.

The rest was something of a non-event. Corbyn scored well on the NHS with a redacted document but the audience was so dispirited that the debate ended in a Blind Date chat. Corbyn would give Boris A Christmas Carol for Christmas: Johnson would give Corbyn some damson jam. No voters’ minds would be changed. The only winner was Etchingham who somehow held the shitshow together.


Yet despite all this, the debate had revealed something. That voters hold both leaders in open contempt and are in despair that one of them will end up as prime minister. Given the chance to show off their best selves, Johnson and Corbyn had merely proved they didn’t have one. The country was even more screwed than anyone had previously imagined.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/2019/nov/19/bluster-from-blubberweight-johnson-fudge-from-newly-trimmed-corbyn

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

It's funny because polling has shown that the more voters see of swinson the less they like her but the lib Dems have decided to make their campaign entirely around her for some reason. She is also likely to lose her seat

Hillary 2024
Nov 13, 2016

by vyelkin

Valko posted:

Jesus, the tabloid press isn't wasting any time trying to do damage control:

Election ITV debate: Viewers furious as host repeatedly ’cuts Boris off’

quote:

A social media user said: “Julie Etchingham cutting Boris off all the time.”

One person wrote: “This is too rushed. Neither of them can get their steam up before they’re stopped.”

Another person added: “This format doesn’t work. 45 second answers don’t mean anything.”

I can't seem to find the original posts on social media. Is my Google broken?

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Horseshoe theory posted:

it's clear that Britain, like America, has always been CHUDly.

there is something deeply wrong within the national psyches of the entire anglosphere

lorn Wayne
Jan 7, 2006

:staredog::meowth::pipe:

oliwan posted:

What the actual gently caress is this?
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a general rule of thumb is gently caress john crace

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/novaramedia/status/1197087970408484864

jesus gently caress lmao

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
John Crace is an unfunny melt

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Pipski
Apr 18, 2004

Jose posted:

It's funny because polling has shown that the more voters see of swinson the less they like her but the lib Dems have decided to make their campaign entirely around her for some reason.

The reason is that she's an egomaniac.

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