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Sally posted:if you clone the clone are they Luuuke? No, Luukee. People with only one vowel in the name their addressed with can’t be cloned more than once. On the other hand, this is also why Palpatine could be cloned so much.
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Sally posted:if you clone the clone are they Luuuke? yes
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Ommin posted:My favorite thing about them was that everything including their ships were living biotech, and if I remember correctly, their foreign biology from a different universe made them immune to the Force. I admit, that I never read the books and all I know about them I learned from the old Star Wars tabletop rpg. The idea that someone could be immune to the Force is completely stupid.
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Aug 30, 2023 04:39
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muscles like this! posted:The idea that someone could be immune to the Force is completely stupid.
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Ommin posted:I think the idea was that their universe was so fundamentally different that the Force could not bind to them, like oil and water. I could be misremembering. I don't dislike the idea of some things existing "outside" the Force, but I can also see that getting lame quickly if handled poorly. Perhaps a War of the Worlds situation, the midichlorians are unadapted and unable to juice up the alt-universe alien.
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Aug 30, 2023 05:17
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Did the pain guys have to do anything to adjust to our universe? One would think that organisms that are so alien that the basic binding energy in all of existence doesn't affect them would have to deal with lots of other poo poo thrown at them by laws of nature.
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If I remember correctly they were born in like a symbiotic relationship with a living planet which grew to hate them and then cut them off from the Force in anger. There was like a secret cult of force users who made it past the planets block or something and they were actually running things behind the scenes. I could also be totally wrong but I feel like that's close to the idea.
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Are these the guys where the Jedi had to adapt and sense the LACK of The Force to be able to detect them?
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Tenkaris posted:Are these the guys where the Jedi had to adapt and sense the LACK of The Force to be able to detect them?
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theironjef posted:Yeah, literally that. Originally the pain guys were supposed to be an outlier group called Domain Shai that were way into pain poo poo. As far as I can tell, it took like zero seconds for the misunderstanding to happen though, since like the first Yuuzhan Vong the books spend any time on, Yomin Carr, is not a member of that group and is aggressively into self-scarification. Old EU rules are that every single species and culture is all exact clones of the first character you see from it, literally all Corellians are shady adventurers who don't wanna hear the odds, literally all Bothans are spies, all Twi'Leks are slave girls and criminal men, etc etc
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Just following suit with the single-biome planets, to be fair. All desert, all ice, all jungle,
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The best things that the old Star Wars EU gave us are this scene from one of the aforementioned Jedi Prince series: And "Lord Nyax" which I assume the otherwise good Aaron Allston (RIP) was forced to cram into a book:  I could provide context for both of these things but no one really wants it. FFT posted:lol yeah I was going to bring that up, it's straight up a "sense where they are by sensing where the force isn't" situation. The jedi knows where the vong is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
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That guy's an alleged pedo. https://www.wlwt.com/article/cincinnati-fluke-skywalker-indicted-child-pornography/44653913
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Fil5000 posted:The jedi knows where the vong is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't.
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Sally posted:also was that the book with the jedi called Jorus (Joruus?) C'Boath? how do you even pronounce that? kuh-bow-ath? Don't fret about it, it's just Zahn referencing a bit of gnosticism.
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My iimm of star wars was the weird way they couldn't decide if droids could be felt through the force or not. Some books, yea. Some books, nope. Just depends on the plot I guess. It was weird how the yv were these horrendously horrible beings that you could barely fight back against because the force was a void for them, while they regularly trained with training droids with sabers and whatnot when it should be the same goddamn thing.
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I'm sure they can feel droids the way they can feel rocks or teacups but maybe droids can sneak up on them in a way biologicals can't But I also don't give a hot hoot about the old EU
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:My iimm of star wars was the weird way they couldn't decide if droids could be felt through the force or not. Some books, yea. Some books, nope. Just depends on the plot I guess. It was weird how the yv were these horrendously horrible beings that you could barely fight back against because the force was a void for them, while they regularly trained with training droids with sabers and whatnot when it should be the same goddamn thing. My IIMM of Star Wars is how they can't decide whether droids are free-willed people worth caring about or mindless robot slaves that are good because they do what they're told.
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Phanatic posted:My IIMM of Star Wars is how they can't decide whether droids are free-willed people worth caring about or mindless robot slaves that are good because they do what they're told. There free-willed people that are good because they do what their told. Star wars people are just terrible people is all.
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They have shown to have free-will but no agency. They are bought, traded and sold and treated as objects. They also have been programmed to feel pain (per the droid torture room) and fear death, I assume to further their understanding of consequences. A droid in the SW Universe is a slave at worst and a pet at best.
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Eh, some droids are also free agents. IG-88, for instance.
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Phanatic posted:My IIMM of Star Wars is how they can't decide whether droids are free-willed people worth caring about or mindless robot slaves that are good because they do what they're told. The episode of Star Wars Rebels where their droid buddy saves his droid friend, which is also the one where the rebels force an innocent pilot droid to become a kamikaze bomber
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Maybe it's because I grew up with poo poo like The Brave Little Toaster, but I would love to have robots as friends. poo poo like A.I. (god that was a poo poo movie) always made me go....okay but the robots should loving kill you all because you literally hunt and torture them for sport! IIMM: I always hated the sequels of Star Wars and I know Disney hosed it up, but for me where they really dropped it, at the start, was making Ben loving Solo instead of the three kids from the EU: the twins and then the older son? I know one of the dudes turned to the Dark Side. There, three possibly interesting characters instead of loving Kyo Ren, who legit reminded me of the fan theory that Han Solo wasn't his dad but Boba Fett was.
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That'd be the twins, Jacen and Jaina, and lil' brudder Anakin. Good luck guessing which one turned to the Dark Side.
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Cowslips Warren posted:IIMM: I always hated the sequels of Star Wars and I know Disney hosed it up, but for me where they really dropped it, at the start, was making Ben loving Solo instead of the three kids from the EU: the twins and then the older son? I know one of the dudes turned to the Dark Side. There, three possibly interesting characters instead of loving Kyo Ren, who legit reminded me of the fan theory that Han Solo wasn't his dad but Boba Fett was.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:My iimm of star wars was the weird way they couldn't decide if droids could be felt through the force or not. Some books, yea. Some books, nope. Just depends on the plot I guess. It was weird how the yv were these horrendously horrible beings that you could barely fight back against because the force was a void for them, while they regularly trained with training droids with sabers and whatnot when it should be the same goddamn thing. Well that's not the same as a void. Imagine being underwater and seeing a bubble. It doesn't contain any water, it's air, but it's quite visible to you and you can feel it when it brushes against you. That's stuff like droids. Now imagine that instead of the bubble of air, there was simply nothing there. A void of water that didn't contain anything else in it, and that you couldn't even tell was there, you could just put your hand in it and you wouldn't feel water, but you wouldn't feel air on your skin. Like a vacuum, but without the collapse of everything into it. That's how I always interpreted it (mind you I haven't actually read any of the books, just read about them).
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In the 2nd greatest video game movie ever made, Mortal Kombat (1995), in Outworld Lou Kang and Johnny Cage are traveling together when Reptile and Kang start fighting. It’s like a 3 minute fight to the death but apparently Johnny just stands there the whole time? It’s shown after the fight he’s still there. He hasn’t left. He just hangs around I guess.
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oldpainless posted:In the 2nd greatest video game movie ever made, Mortal Kombat (1995), in Outworld Lou Kang and Johnny Cage are traveling together when Reptile and Kang start fighting. It’s like a 3 minute fight to the death but apparently Johnny just stands there the whole time? It’s shown after the fight he’s still there. He hasn’t left. He just hangs around I guess. It's a two player game 
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oldpainless posted:In the 2nd greatest video game movie ever made, Mortal Kombat (1995), in Outworld Lou Kang and Johnny Cage are traveling together when Reptile and Kang start fighting. It’s like a 3 minute fight to the death but apparently Johnny just stands there the whole time? It’s shown after the fight he’s still there. He hasn’t left. He just hangs around I guess. The stuff with Reptile was a late addition to the movie after test audiences wanted more fighting, and apparently they couldn't get Johnny Cage's actor in on the day they shot the fight. Also maybealabia posted:It's a two player game
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Also he probably just need to have a nap or go to the bathroom or something.
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Ommin posted:Agreed. Also, why the gently caress did he get the name Ben? Han and Leia had no connection to Obi-Wan the way Luke did. That's why Luke and Mara Jade's son was named Ben Skywalker. Hell, naming Kylo (Ben) after Luke would have made more sense and been even more of a heavy blow to their connection in the sequels. I mean, Luke didn't really have that much of a connection to him either, the way he talked about Ben Kenobi being a hermit made it sound like he was at best a passing acquaintance. As much as I hate to acknowledge it exists, Obi-Wan did a pretty good job of showing Leia having the best relationship with him, she's probably the one that decided to name Kylo Ren Ben in his honor.
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poo poo, you're right, I didn't consider that series. They did have an adventure together. I was just thinking about his time, pre- and post-death, training Luke. Leia never interacted with Obi-Wan later on.
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Carthag Tuek posted:shoulda named him Ren Ten Ben Ren Ten Plen and Unlucky Luke.
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dr_rat posted:Also he probably just need to have a nap or go to the bathroom or something. Playing winner stays on
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Torquemada posted:Playing winner stays on  Losing a match because you needed to go to the bathroom or get some of the pizza was a perfectly valid and accepted strategy at sleep overs.
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Darthemed posted:That'd be the twins, Jacen and Jaina, and lil' brudder Anakin. It was Jacen. And then later Jaina for a while. Originally the New Jedi Order series was set for Anakin to turn to the dark side for reasons, so the first novels were all gearing up to this. Then George Lucas, for the first and only time in his life, kramered in to say no you can't do this because it rhymes, like poetry. So all the groundwork was ignored and Jacen became bad instead, and Anakin died, irrevocably loving up the rest of the books. Yea I had lots of sex in high school and was very cool and popular
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oldpainless posted:Lou Kang Hey, I'm fuckin' bicycle kickin' over heeah!
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