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logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Condiv posted:

*buys a pack of gum*

and you know what else about hillary really grinds my gears...

Sir this is a long John silvers

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

logikv9 posted:

Sir this is a long John silvers

Do those even still exist

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Condiv posted:

the only way hillary wins the 2020 primary is if perez rigs it for her. she doesn't have "electability" going for her like last election

though i'm sure she'll spin up some bullshit about why she is the only one who can beat trump despite her hideous failure of a campaign last time. what's she gonna do, fight song him to death?

She didn't have electability going for her in 2016 either, considering her last run ended in defeat at the hands of 1 term black Senator Barack Obama, but that didn't seem to stop idiots claiming she was destined for the throne then.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Not a Step posted:

She didn't have electability going for her in 2016 either, considering her last run ended in defeat at the hands of 1 term black Senator Barack Obama, but that didn't seem to stop idiots claiming she was destined for the throne then.

they could at least argue that obama was an unbelievable campaigner. kinda hard to say the trump campaign was a hard one to beat

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Raskolnikov38 posted:

Do those even still exist

They might exist only in television ads

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Raskolnikov38 posted:

Do those even still exist

My wife made the mistake of stopping at one when we lived in Oklahoma last year because she wanted something different. It was the greasiest, saddest thing either of us had ever seen, and neither of us could stomach the fried lump of grease.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

just in case everybody else thinks this is a joke, the guardian has proven that there is nothing funny in the unvarnished truth:


[insert harold holt reference here]

For people worried about her trying another misguided run, she will be back.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
sounds like America :911:

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

https://twitter.com/JustAGurLnSwedn/status/834377967098814466

https://twitter.com/JustAGurLnSwedn/status/834395218870956032

her entire thread lol

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

lolling how they even put her faith in a politician who gained most of political success due to having the right DNC connections and being able to carpetbag her way into a safe blue district.

Not to mention if you follow her career arc it was a collection of stepping stones positions leading into a pretty hilarious faceplant.

I guess being owned by a charismatic outsider with a anti-establishment message wasn't enough and she had to try again.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


r/enough_sanders_spam hates this ta nehisi coates quote for some reason, they say he's trying to be as irrelevant as cornel west

https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/804400665858547712

Ta-Nehisi Coates posted:

The notion that, say, racism is non-economic oppression is rather incredible. The Ferguson report revealed an entire scheme of municipal plunder. Anti-black policing was an economic model. Pretty sure that you could make the same case for "marriage equality." It's not just the right to embrace on the courthouse steps. Marriage discrimination isn't bad because simply because it makes people "feel bad." It's bad because it bars them from entering into a contract to protect--among other things--the fruits of their labor. There's nothing "non-economic" about sexual harassment. If you're boss is demanding favors in exchange for a raise, that's economics. Notion that white dude's issues are "economic" and everybody else is just trying to discuss their feelings is, well, sorta deplorable. Anti-black Racism is the one I know, and at its very root it was always economic. But sexism is deeply tied to the idea of women's bodies as property, so likely economic too. (Smarter people than me can take this.) "Non-economic oppression" and "Identity politics" are basically phrases people are using obscure old and trenchant problems. This is not a case against making a strong pitch to wwc voters. It's a case against the idea that economics is irrelevant everywhere else. In America, "class" isn't the only kind of class. It's easy to perceive these systems as people just being mean to each other. More disturbing to process the idea that someone is benefiting. And that someone isn't simply some rich plutocrat--though they benefit too.

When Clinton said "Not everything is about an economic theory" she was wrong. It is. Even when it's hard to elucidate. It's always there.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

She doesn't have any evidence that Bernie caused all those other votes.

But anyway, what you really need to remember is that Hillary was ten times as mean to Obama as Bernie was to Hillary, yet Obama went on to win an earth-shaking victory against someone who wasn't even Donald Trump.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Jeb! Repetition posted:

She doesn't have any evidence that Bernie caused all those other votes.

But anyway, what you really need to remember is that Hillary was ten times as mean to Obama as Bernie was to Hillary, yet Obama went on to win an earth-shaking victory against someone who wasn't even Donald Trump.

Obama also won Ohio and Florida in both of elections.

By comparison Hillary lost all main tipping point states in addition to losing other once safe blue states like PA and WA.

She also almost lost Minnesota which is pretty unprecedented for any recent Dem GE canidate.

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Condiv posted:

r/enough_sanders_spam hates this ta nehisi coates quote for some reason, they say he's trying to be as irrelevant as cornel west

https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/804400665858547712

There's a gay dude with a huge stream of consciousness saying that gay people are not as economically advantaged as African Americans, and thats why hillary was right that solving economic factors isn't enough to solve racism.

The Ol Spicy Keychain
Jan 17, 2013

I MEPHISTO MY OWN ASSHOLE

Condiv posted:

r/enough_sanders_spam hates this ta nehisi coates quote for some reason, they say he's trying to be as irrelevant as cornel west

https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/804400665858547712

Liberals will turn on any black man as soon as he wants to actually rock the boat?? :thinking:

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


I am stunned that TNC is cool enough to have a Liquid Swords av.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Shear Modulus posted:

why do they say "white" when they mean "rich"

For click-bait Distraction.

wedgie deliverer
Oct 2, 2010

Tom Periello is the size of a Hobbit.

https://twitter.com/feetoffancy/status/843161660214927360

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


buttigieg now, buttigieg often, buttigieg forever

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Scent of Worf posted:

Liberals will turn on any black man as soon as he wants to actually rock the boat?? :thinking:

bringing up cornel west is p interesting considering how he was the #1 liberal black man until he had the audacity to step out of line and got blacklisted

deadgoon
Dec 4, 2014

by FactsAreUseless
the buttigieg there is, the buttigieg there was, and the buttigieg there ever will be

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
buttigeig early. buttigeig often.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

valiant privileged lady living in a nordic socialist state bravely fighting against only non-flaccid movement against trump

GdBlssHrHrt

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

The Kingfish posted:

I am stunned that TNC is cool enough to have a Liquid Swords av.

TNC is a genuine Good Egg. The only reason there was any bad blood between him and Sanders supporters was because he had some qualms with Bernie, and the usual suspects immediately ran with the "Young Black voice on economic and racial subjects critical of The Bernman!!!!"

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Neurolimal posted:

TNC is a genuine Good Egg. The only reason there was any bad blood between him and Sanders supporters was because he had some qualms with Bernie, and the usual suspects immediately ran with the "Young Black voice on economic and racial subjects critical of The Bernman!!!!"

I'd vote TNC for eternal dictator of man, but otherwise yes

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007


Yeah, all those Gary Johnson voters absolutely would have voted for Hillary if it weren't for that mean old Bernie making them Feel the Johnson.

Neurolimal posted:

TNC is a genuine Good Egg. The only reason there was any bad blood between him and Sanders supporters was because he had some qualms with Bernie, and the usual suspects immediately ran with the "Young Black voice on economic and racial subjects critical of The Bernman!!!!"

I bet TNC regrets writing that first reparations article sometimes. Well, I mean we know he does because he had to write a second article to explicitly spell out that of course Clinton was so much worse that he never even thought of asking her about reparations.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Neurolimal posted:

TNC is a genuine Good Egg. The only reason there was any bad blood between him and Sanders supporters was because he had some qualms with Bernie, and the usual suspects immediately ran with the "Young Black voice on economic and racial subjects critical of The Bernman!!!!"

He wrote a piece critical of Bernie for not campaigning on reparations which was dumb imo but it's whatev.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Reparations are just another way to means test redistribution, but everyone one is morally right to oppose them.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
It's a bit more complicated than that; it's like a combination of Affirmative Action and Sander's economic proposals, where segregated cities like Chicago integrate black citizens into esteemed visible public service jobs, community projects, and housing, while also developing black neighborhoods historically ravaged by redlining. A common example given of why this action is needed has been the GI Bill under Bush; black neighborhoods rarely had nearby offices to inform and provide these benefits, and when veterans went to offices outside their neighborhood they were often told that they were not eligible.

I disagree with the name (although I understand the intent), but the argument is convincing. Sanders after hiring Symone Sanders adopted a number of policies that line up with TNC's vision of reparations, too. I'd even argue that's why he maintained a significant foothold in the 18-30 black dems demographic.

Neurolimal has issued a correction as of 20:15 on Mar 18, 2017

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


The Kingfish posted:

He wrote a piece critical of Bernie for not campaigning on reparations which was dumb imo but it's whatev.

he didn't realize it would be used as a cudgel by clinton and her supporters, mainly because he didn't realize how the hillaries were so delusional they thought hillary was good on racial issues, like at all.

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


I was right at the time when I said he was either (1) a shill or (2) hopelessly naive about how the political sausage gets made.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

This guy gets it. Middle and upper class democrats will support any "liberal" policy as long as they aren't inconvienced by a poor person.

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Not a Step posted:

My wife made the mistake of stopping at one when we lived in Oklahoma last year because she wanted something different. It was the greasiest, saddest thing either of us had ever seen, and neither of us could stomach the fried lump of grease.

lmao

there ain't nothing fresh about seafood in a landlocked hellscape like Oklahoma

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Thump! posted:

lmao

there ain't nothing fresh about seafood in a landlocked hellscape like Oklahoma

We werent expecting fresh, not that fastfood seafood would be fresh even on the beaches of Maine. Flash freezing is a process that exists. But we were expecting not a literal pool of grease and breading.

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Not a Step posted:

My wife made the mistake of stopping at one when we lived in Oklahoma last year because she wanted something different. It was the greasiest, saddest thing either of us had ever seen, and neither of us could stomach the fried lump of grease.

I went to one once in my wife's hometown as a novelty, I echo the above statement.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

The Nastier Nate posted:

This guy gets it. Middle and upper class democrats will support any "liberal" policy as long as they aren't inconvienced by a poor person.

Hell just look at Hillary supporters to see it in action. They hate bernie, but it's not because he cost their Abuela the election (he didn't), it's because they hate poor people, and Bernie wants to help them.

Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme
i just came up with a really good political plan for the democratic party that guarantees they win the house, and - get this - the platform is entirely made up of things i agree with and care about. weird coincidence, but true

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Hell just look at Hillary supporters to see it in action. They hate bernie, but it's not because he cost their Abuela the election (he didn't), it's because they hate poor people, and Bernie wants to help them.

It's this.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/842545802480439297

really disappointed the 'seizure' didn't kill him

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MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
Whatever the verdict ends up being, the case will be a win-win.

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