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Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

Franchescanado posted:

I think you're right. I'm going to add it to my list and save it for later.

It just doesn't feel right watching a haunted house movie outside of Autumn & Winter.

If it's raining and night time it's cool , but yeah :agreed:

The Asphyx is a hidden gem. I had never heard of it until this thread and now it's one of my favorite 1970s British horror films. It's soooooooooo drat good.

Hollismason fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Aug 2, 2017

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Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Franchescanado posted:

I love haunted house movies. I need to go through and fill in the gaps of my haunted house films, because I feel like I'm missing out on some great ones.

Just a shot in the dark but have you seen The Changeling? A great haunted house film that for whatever reason has kind of stayed under the radar all these years. I own it on DVD, but that was only because I don't think there's ever been a blu ray release.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

LesterGroans posted:

Easily. Although, I don't consider that much of an insult to Mads when he's up against Brian Cox and Anthony Hopkins.

Yeah Mads is great he's just got some stiff competition. I hate the dude that plays Will Graham on the show though.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
I liked Hannibal tv series a lot . It's super queer. Also, the scene with Mason :stare:

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Basebf555 posted:

Just a shot in the dark but have you seen The Changeling? A great haunted house film that for whatever reason has kind of stayed under the radar all these years. I own it on DVD, but that was only because I don't think there's ever been a blu ray release.

I started it for the May challenge (I think you or HM recommended it) and enjoyed it, but I had to stop watching it because of obligations (same with whoever recommended me Fender Bender).

It's sitting on top of my To-Watch list, but again, it being a haunted house film and the first scene taking place in snow made me want to save it for Autumn/Winter (despite living in a place that hasn't snowed in close to thirty years).

It's going in my October list for sure.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
I prefer Mads to Cox and Hopkins, but to be fair he had a hell of a lot more screen time to develop a more nuanced character. Hopkins feels like a cartoon character compared to Mads, and Cox always felt a bit too blue collar for me. They're all great in their own way though, this is just nitpicking.

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007
The only thing I couldn't get on board with in the Hannibal show was the fight choreography. It just seemed like a step to far stylistically.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I think Legend of Hell House's biggest problem on a first viewing is the absurdity of the "skeptic" character believing in psychic superpowers with complete certainty but thinking ghosts are impossible nonsense. That's the sort of thing you need to establish in a setting, not just have him offhandedly comment on as the movie chugs along.

Like it doesn't make the film or script bad per se, but it's disorienting for the audience in understanding everyone's motivations and viewpoints on a first viewing, and not in a way that helps the film.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Hollismason posted:

If it's raining and night time it's cool , but yeah :agreed:

The Asphyx is a hidden gem. I had never heard of it until this thread and now it's one of my favorite 1970s British horror films. It's soooooooooo drat good.

The Asphyx has been on my list from this thread too. It'll be a new watch for me when I show it at my horror night.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Drunkboxer posted:

The only thing I couldn't get on board with in the Hannibal show was the fight choreography. It just seemed like a step to far stylistically.

I didn't really mind because it was The Devil vs. The Ultimate G-Man, so it seemed appropriate for them to have John Wick-style fights. The fight that Hannibal has against that guy with the piano wire was lame though.

Edit: The Asphyx would make a nice double feature with Horror Express, as they're both Hammeresque films not actually made by Hammer, and they're both proto-versions of iconic films from the 1980's.

Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Aug 2, 2017

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 5 hours!
The Asphyx is really really really really good.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Drunkboxer posted:

The only thing I couldn't get on board with in the Hannibal show was the fight choreography. It just seemed like a step to far stylistically.

But that Hannibal "The Cannibal" Lector vs. Iron Jack Crawford fight was one of the most epic screen battles since They Live.

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

King Vidiot posted:

But that Hannibal "The Cannibal" Lector vs. Iron Jack Crawford fight was one of the most epic screen battles since They Live.

Yeah that's specifically the one I remember the most. I just thought it was weird, I mean why would Crawford (played by a heavy set older man) know that much martial arts? It bordered on cartoony to me.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Drunkboxer posted:

Yeah that's specifically the one I remember the most. I just thought it was weird, I mean why would Crawford (played by a heavy set older man) know that much martial arts? It bordered on cartoony to me.

I think the no-bullshit, actual answer to that question is that he's Morpheus. I think Fuller or someone involved with the show said as much, they were like "well, can we really let the kung fu talents of Morpheus go to waste?"

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
I think I am going to rewatch Hannibal TV series I haven't seen it in a while.

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

Basebf555 posted:

I think the no-bullshit, actual answer to that question is that he's Morpheus. I think Fuller or someone involved with the show said as much, they were like "well, can we really let the kung fu talents of Morpheus go to waste?"

If I remember right I think Mads and Fishburne specifically asked if they could do a fight scene because of the fight training they had and Fuller was like "Sure, why not?"

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

Yeah Mads is great he's just got some stiff competition. I hate the dude that plays Will Graham on the show though.

Yeah, I don't really dig him either. He gets a little tiring and it doesn't help that he has to play his major scenes against Fishburne or Mads.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
I've never watched Hannibal. I know it's enjoyed by a lot of peeps in this thread who's opinions I respect, but I just don't have an urge to sit down and watch it, even if it's only three seasons. It's lumped in my head with Bates Motel, which I will also not watch.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

I really need to buy Hannibal the series on Blu-Ray. And eventually start working on my Manhunter/Red Dragon/Hannibal S3 spoke-edited supercut.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Franchescanado posted:

I've never watched Hannibal. I know it's enjoyed by a lot of peeps in this thread who's opinions I respect, but I just don't have an urge to sit down and watch it, even if it's only three seasons. It's lumped in my head with Bates Motel, which I will also not watch.

The reasons why it was so loved by some(myself included) are mostly technical. Mads holds the whole thing together, the show would be too boring without his presence, but the cinematography is as good as any feature length film out there.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Lurdiak posted:

I think Legend of Hell House's biggest problem on a first viewing is the absurdity of the "skeptic" character believing in psychic superpowers with complete certainty but thinking ghosts are impossible nonsense. That's the sort of thing you need to establish in a setting, not just have him offhandedly comment on as the movie chugs along.

Like it doesn't make the film or script bad per se, but it's disorienting for the audience in understanding everyone's motivations and viewpoints on a first viewing, and not in a way that helps the film.

This is sort of an interesting artifact of when the movie was made like Exorcist II and The Changeling etc. vs. what was trendy with true believers of the time. Like, OF COURSE psychic powers are real, duh, we just don't know a lot about how they work. Ghosts? LMAO you think spirits are floating around those are just projections of your mind, idiot. There was this very distinct differentiation between "paranormal" ESP, pre-cognition, and other mental stuff and "supernatural" restless spirits you can see reflected in a lot of movies from the 70s to the early 80s.When the movie was made a character with that mindset would just be a given.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
A heard Bates Motel.was actually pretty good but I have only watched a few of the first episodes.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Neo Rasa posted:

This is sort of an interesting artifact of when the movie was made like Exorcist II and The Changeling etc. vs. what was trendy with true believers of the time. Like, OF COURSE psychic powers are real, duh, we just don't know a lot about how they work. Ghosts? LMAO you think spirits are floating around those are just projections of your mind, idiot. There was this very distinct differentiation between "paranormal" ESP, pre-cognition, and other mental stuff and "supernatural" restless spirits you can see reflected in a lot of movies from the 70s to the early 80s.When the movie was made a character with that mindset would just be a given.

That's why I really enjoy The Exorcist II, it could only have been made by that one guy at that specific time. They could make Exorcist movies for the next thousand years and there would never be another one like Exorcist II.

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation

Drunkboxer posted:

Yeah that's specifically the one I remember the most. I just thought it was weird, I mean why would Crawford (played by a heavy set older man) know that much martial arts? It bordered on cartoony to me.

I feel like you're misremembering that fight because there's like zero fancy martial arts. Crawford fights like a back alley brawler in that scene, it's pure brute force.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

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Kvlt! posted:

The wikipedia page for this movie says the same thing in the opening paragraphs: "Critics noted similarities between The Backwoods and earlier thrillers such as Deliverance and Straw Dogs"

If I only wanted to watch one version of the Red Dragon story should I watch Red Dragon or Manhunter?

Not even a question, Manhunter. Red Dragon's not bad, it has a great cast and actually pulls off the McClane/Dolarhyde romance better than Manhunter, but Manhunter is so much creepier and more stylish than Red Dragon.

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

Catfishenfuego posted:

I feel like you're misremembering that fight because there's like zero fancy martial arts. Crawford fights like a back alley brawler in that scene, it's pure brute force.

You may be right in context (compared to Mads) but the whole fight itself feels like it's taking place in a different show to me.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Catfishenfuego posted:

I feel like you're misremembering that fight because there's like zero fancy martial arts. Crawford fights like a back alley brawler in that scene, it's pure brute force.

Ehhhh, to call it kung fu ala The Matrix is obviously just an exaggeration, but the fight has that choreographed feel that makes it reminiscent of a martial arts movie. You typically don't see that kind of complex choreography in a standard Hollywood action movie.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Hollismason posted:

A heard Bates Motel.was actually pretty good but I have only watched a few of the first episodes.

It gets good but the first few episodes are kind of checklist. Once the show actually gets through the "actually, this quaint town is lovely and everyone has a dark secret, huge shock I know" phase it's pretty good.

Basebf555 posted:

Ehhhh, to call it kung fu ala The Matrix is obviously just an exaggeration, but the fight has that choreographed feel that makes it reminiscent of a martial arts movie. You typically don't see that kind of complex choreography in a standard Hollywood action movie.

I was torn on it, the piano wire guy fight was ridiculous but at the same time it fits the hyper-operatic style everything is done in in the show. It having these kind of fantasy "boss fight" moments only really stood out to me when thinking about it after the fact.

Franchescanado posted:

I've never watched Hannibal. I know it's enjoyed by a lot of peeps in this thread who's opinions I respect, but I just don't have an urge to sit down and watch it, even if it's only three seasons. It's lumped in my head with Bates Motel, which I will also not watch.

The show is amazing but like Basebf555 says it's amazing from a production standpoint. It just looks and sounds incredible at all times and very impressive just on that level. But I will say it's one of the few recent instances where Laurence Fishburne actually gives a poo poo, and of course Madds is a huge reason for the show's cult success (I was reading that ratings for it were actually very low despite everyone who actually gave it a chance loving it).

Still even beyond that I'd say it's worth a watch, the first few episodes are basically bizarre serial killer of the week so if you have any interest in police procedurals or CSI or whatever it's basically a hyper-graphic version of that. I can understand why it didn't really get the mainstream ratings though because drat.

Due to their resemblance to human organs (this was talked about a bit earlier in the thread for Day of the Dead) pig organs are used for the scenes where Hannibal is preparing/storing his food. This has a meta-disturbing effectiveness depending on what kind of food you were raised with because a lot of the food just looks legit delicious compared to say the very clearly a human brain moments in the Ridley Scott film.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Aug 2, 2017

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

Neo Rasa posted:

Still even beyond that I'd say it's worth a watch, the first few episodes are basically bizarre serial killer of the week so if you have any interest in police procedurals or CSI or whatever it's basically a hyper-graphic version of that. I can understand why it didn't really get the mainstream ratings though because drat.

Yea it's one of those shows that decided about 6-8 episodes in that it wanted to be something completely different than what it started as, and that stumble out of the gate turned a lot of people off who never gave it another chance.

Oooh yea, and what you're saying about the food is dead on. The show has scenes in it that are legit food porn...except that the audience knows that it's human organs and most of the time you know exactly where those organs came from.

Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Aug 2, 2017

Drunkboxer
Jun 30, 2007

Neo Rasa posted:



Due to their resemblance to human organs (this was talked about a bit earlier in the thread for Day of the Dead) pig organs are used for the scenes where Hannibal is preparing/storing his food. This has a meta-disturbing effectiveness depending on what kind of food you were raised with because a lot of the food just looks legit delicious compared to say the very clearly a human brain moments in the Ridley Scott film.

The show had plenty of other merits but I know deep in my heart I was only watching it because it was gross.

hamsystem
Nov 11, 2010

Fuzzy pickles!
I personally tuned in for the baller suits.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

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hamsystem posted:

I personally tuned in for the baller suits.

The suits were like 90% Mads though. You try on one of those suits and see how it looks on you. The secret of looking good in any suit is to be a male model and professional dancer.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Hannibal's funny because you would normally use the term "style over substance" to comment on something derogatorily, but Hannibal was a show all about style as substance. The food porn, tailored suits, and kung fu aren't exercises in indulgence. Hannibal is a show about indulgence; about giving into those sweet, succulent, dark cravings, and that's kind of made manifest in the aesthetics of the show as a whole.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Franchescanado posted:

I've never watched Hannibal. I know it's enjoyed by a lot of peeps in this thread who's opinions I respect, but I just don't have an urge to sit down and watch it, even if it's only three seasons. It's lumped in my head with Bates Motel, which I will also not watch.

The cinematography, music, and Mikkelson were all very good but beyond that I couldn't get into it and bailed pretty early.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Did anyone watch or enjoy the Fox series of The Exorcist? I was meaning to catch it since I have a lot of friends who worked on it (it's production is in Chicago), but never managed to actually watch it and accidentally deleted the episodes I had on my DVR.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

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ruddiger posted:

Did anyone watch or enjoy the Fox series of The Exorcist? I was meaning to catch it since I have a lot of friends who worked on it (it's production is in Chicago), but never managed to actually watch it and accidentally deleted the episodes I had on my DVR.

Once I found out it really had nothing to do with the actual movie and was just a generic show about demonic possession I lost interest. If you're gonna do The Exorcist you gotta give me Karras or Merrin or Pazuzu or Regan or something that will make me feel like I'm watching a continuation of that story.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:
Exorcist: The Beginning gave us Merrin and Pazuzu and it was poo poo. :( Dominion was pretty good though, but plain looking because of the budget level post production it got.

Is The Exorcist TV show like, possessed person of the week or is it about a singular person who is possessed? I wasn't expecting a continuation of anything in the existing movies but it's crazy that they'd call it The Exorcist and not have it acknowledge the flicks at all or isn't like a long re-telling of them or something.

All these things get TV shows but I can't believe we still haven't gotten a show where Jennifer Connelly and her pet monkey/close combat bladed weapons expert Inga travel the world using her psychic insect powers to right wrongs and fight crime.

Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Aug 2, 2017

LesterGroans
Jun 9, 2009

It's funny...

You were so scary at night.

ruddiger posted:

Did anyone watch or enjoy the Fox series of The Exorcist? I was meaning to catch it since I have a lot of friends who worked on it (it's production is in Chicago), but never managed to actually watch it and accidentally deleted the episodes I had on my DVR.

I heard it was surprisingly good, but I haven't seen it. I'm kinda interested in seeing how Geena Davis is doing these days though.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Neo Rasa posted:

Exorcist: The Beginning gave us Merrin and Pazuzu and it was poo poo. :( Dominion was pretty good though, but plain looking because of the budget level post production it got.

Is The Exorcist TV show like, possessed person of the week or is it about a singular person who is possessed? I wasn't expecting a continuation of anything in the existing movies but it's crazy that they'd call it The Exorcist and not have it acknowledge the flicks at all or isn't like a long re-telling of them or something.

All these things get TV shows but I can't believe we still haven't gotten a show where Jennifer Connelly and her pet monkey/close combat bladed weapons expert Inga travel the world using her psychic insect powers to right wrongs and fight crime.

The show is actually a secret sequel to the first two films. Geena Davis' character is revealed to be an adult Reagan, who changed her name... I enjoyed it. Good performances.

Tart Kitty fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Aug 2, 2017

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
That's weird because Linda Blair is still alive

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Mar 17, 2009





Hollismason posted:

That's weird because Linda Blair is still alive

Well it would be a dead giveaway of the show's intention if they were to add her

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