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What up fellow Englishers how's the breakup going? I stopped reading the news on it weeks ago because gently caress me Has this PM been seen loving a farm animal yet
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Dec 6, 2019 18:14
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Jaded Burnout posted:What up fellow Englishers how's the breakup going? I stopped reading the news on it weeks ago because gently caress me nice post/username combo, this
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Dec 6, 2019 19:10
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it's interesting how the faux-cynical 'all politicians are liars' mentality allows politicians to get away with some genuinely spectacular dishonesty. nobody wants to look naïve so people appear to have genuinely internalised the idea that better things aren't possible and it's better not to try. pretty cool imo
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Dec 6, 2019 19:13
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but people say they know boris is a known liar, but they trust him and they’ll vote for him anyway there’s something else going on in there, or the lack of it at-least I suppose
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Dec 6, 2019 19:46
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Jel Shaker posted:but people say they know boris is a known liar, but they trust him and they’ll vote for him anyway "Better the devil you know than somebody who might do things different, even though it would be objectively better."
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Dec 6, 2019 19:49
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everyone who likes boris likes his lovely sarcastic fake answers to questions
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Dec 6, 2019 19:50
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legit a lot of people can't separate spin from outright lies and it's a big democratic problem because it means that politicians aren't disadvantaged for saying things which are flatly and obviously untrue. the reaction when they're caught is "pffft, politicians! all liars!" because jeremy corbyn keeps the tellie on in the background on christmas day and doesn't want to admit he doesn't pay attention to the queen's speech
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Dec 6, 2019 20:07
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Looking at the channel 4 tweet I've come across an actual fake news account calling it fake news https://mobile.twitter.com/politicalite loving cunts. Private Speech has issued a correction as of 20:19 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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Dec 6, 2019 20:13
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V. Illych L. posted:it's interesting how the faux-cynical 'all politicians are liars' mentality allows politicians to get away with some genuinely spectacular dishonesty. nobody wants to look naïve so people appear to have genuinely internalised the idea that better things aren't possible and it's better not to try. pretty cool imo lol it's the public schoolboys approach to putting in effort, but applied to understanding reality and encompassing a nation's psyche
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Dec 6, 2019 21:34
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Jonathan Pie showing us all how to vent properly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjUWX6S8iYU
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Dec 6, 2019 21:57
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Jonathan Pie is a oval office
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Dec 6, 2019 21:59
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oh no political correctness and identity politics have gone too far, gently caress off pie
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Dec 6, 2019 22:01
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How'd the debate go mates I'm out canvassing
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Dec 6, 2019 22:12
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bitmap posted:How'd the debate go mates I'm out canvassing boris is currently stammering at full speed to avoid answering "why did your cuts put a terrorist out with no probation or rehab"
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Dec 6, 2019 22:14
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People are very hosed off about antisemitism let me tell you
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Dec 6, 2019 22:15
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jeremy corbyn is running circles around johnson on, by far, his weakest position oh no heres the bbc bailing johnson out of answering their own question
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Dec 6, 2019 22:15
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identity politics have shown some pretty big flaws as a progressive cornerstone recently imo, especially with the antisemitism stuff. the right has seized upon the inherent subjectivism (people own their own stories, radical privilege of lived experience &c) and have realised that if one can create a perception that the left is hostile to them, so long as it's sincerely held it's very difficult to actually counteract. not that a lot of terribly unsavoury types aren't raging about anything antiracist being irrelevant idpol, but as a philosophy i think it's passed its zenith re: this debate, i like corbyn a lot but he's not the sharpest debater. i think he's uncomfortable with having to spin on his feet, possibly because he spent most of his political career not spinning at all.
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Dec 6, 2019 22:15
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V. Illych L. posted:re: this debate, i like corbyn a lot but he's not the sharpest debater. i think he's uncomfortable with having to spin on his feet, possibly because he spent most of his political career not spinning at all. He's vastly better at it than he was a few years ago, he's had a lot of practise, rapidly.
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Dec 6, 2019 22:17
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he absolutely killed it in the labour leadership hustings, but presumably he's since realised that many things aren't suited for a wider audience and that there's a reason party leaders act as cagey as they do. in a way it's unfortunate, i don't think he particularly enjoys this style of politics
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Dec 6, 2019 22:19
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1203065256249110528?s=19
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Dec 6, 2019 22:40
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*over 65
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Dec 6, 2019 22:44
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well that's ominously similar to the brexit referendum realtalk it's not bad for corbyn, this. he's not at his best in debates - whereas johnson absolutely is - and his personal approval ratings are in the absolute toilet, so being within the margin of error is OK
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Dec 6, 2019 22:53
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though "representative survey of viewers" is also an interesting point, one wonders who the viewers were - if the average is over 55 (is that the present crossover point?) i'd say it's downright Good
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Dec 6, 2019 22:54
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https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1203071285649137664 Things that are true are disinformation, because it's been reported (by facebook and the Atlantic Council) as originating from Russia. Also, the leaked documents were posted before the election was called. Fast Luck has issued a correction as of 23:09 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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Dec 6, 2019 23:04
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oh for gently caress's sake is this going to be a story now after bojo the clown suppressed the report on russian influence jfc
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Dec 6, 2019 23:10
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marktheando posted:Jonathan Pie is a oval office I've gotten poo poo for posting one of his videos in the past. Is there a specifically cunty thing he's done in the past that warrants hate? He was funny the first few times I saw his vids, but he quickly became a one-trick pony. These days I prefer to get all my political updates from chunkymark.
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Dec 6, 2019 23:26
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BMX Ninja posted:I've gotten poo poo for posting one of his videos in the past. Is there a specifically cunty thing he's done in the past that warrants hate? he's one of those MY FREE SPEECH types who thinks political correctness is ruining comedy and that deplatforming fascists is wrong, antifa are just as bad as fascists etc. count dankula defender
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Dec 6, 2019 23:35
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BMX Ninja posted:I've gotten poo poo for posting one of his videos in the past. Is there a specifically cunty thing he's done in the past that warrants hate? one of the writers of the character is also behind this https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/xwn5w4/comedy-unleashed-london-free-speech-right-wing
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Dec 6, 2019 23:44
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BMX Ninja posted:I've gotten poo poo for posting one of his videos in the past. Is there a specifically cunty thing he's done in the past that warrants hate? iirc one of the guys behind the character is from the living marxism set, who are now spiked online. they're creepy weirdos of the highest order
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Dec 6, 2019 23:49
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Yikes! Had no idea. Thanks all.
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Dec 7, 2019 00:01
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I mean he's a professional comedian, most of them are creepy weirdos ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Dec 7, 2019 00:25
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His was a schtick that I felt was worn out after the first time I saw it. It would be a neat one off thing but as someone just upthread said, it's a one trick pony
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Dec 7, 2019 00:28
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he’s also a member of the Labour Party which is a bit surprising
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Dec 7, 2019 00:39
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it's absolutely infuriating that the liberals who have spent the last two years relentlessly and to a large extent spuriously attacking corbyn's character are going to take the probable election defeat as a vindication of their, the liberals', project and a defeat of socialism. these idiots have worked actively towards their own ideological horror of a hard brexit and are now crying about why corbyn can't save them why is he so mean loving idiots
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Dec 7, 2019 00:55
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On the plus side watching Barry Gardiner go for the throat and subsequently disembowel a (frankly very sweaty, anxious-looking) Dominic Raab would be worth the price of admission: https://twitter.com/i/status/1203069396438179847
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Dec 7, 2019 01:44
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wow, two-term prime minister johnson!
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Dec 7, 2019 01:59
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DeadButDelicious posted:On the plus side watching Barry Gardiner go for the throat and subsequently disembowel a (frankly very sweaty, anxious-looking) Dominic Raab would be worth the price of admission: Get em!
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Dec 7, 2019 02:56
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barry gardiner is exceptional at this sort of on-stage knife fight. it's likely why they keep him around despite being a bit of a liability in other settings
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