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Even in a normal format like AER, P1P2 doesn't mean a whole lot. A P1P2 where there's still Release the Gremlins, Shock, and Scrapper Champion in the pack doesn't mean the person to your right won't end up in a red deck, it probably just means they first picked something like Untethered Express. e: And if you end up fighting the person to your right for a color, it hurts you waaaaaay more than it hurts them. They cut you horribly for 2 packs and just lean on their second color in pack 2. They end up with a good deck and you end up hurting for playables in at least one of your main colors. Hell, if your P1P1 passes 3+ amazing cards in one color, it's probably a good idea to go into that color if it's open to your right, because you get all the best picks in it for 2 packs while screwing the decks of multiple people to your left if they're stubborn and can't read signals. Entropic fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Jabor posted:It's fun and relatively cheap, there are like four expensive cards in the deck and everything else is <$1.
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Angry Grimace posted:It's a self mill deck that isn't rotating into a set that is going to have cards castable out of the GY. Probably not risky. At worst it's probably just mediocre. The "risky" bit is that we might be going into a format that has actual graveyard interaction that just so happens to totally screw over the deck. The deck is also really tight numbers-wise that it's hard to see what it could possibly pick up without destroying the synergies that make the deck work. A faithless-looting style card draw spell wouldn't go amiss, or maybe something that fills a similar role to k-return and fiery temper, but those are marginal upgrades at best.
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Sickening posted:https://twitter.com/tirentu/status/843521268313985024 And you know the person doing it without byes deserves it more too. Anyways, this got me thinking about what a loving raw deal GPs are these days. The rake is pretty insane. Let's look at this weekends Japanese GP: Let's ignore income from side events and renting floorspace to dealers. 2719 entries, at ~60-70 USD, depending on proportion of early bird registrations. Let's round that to $175K Subtract prizes for a <3000 person GP of $50K (lol) Subtract appearance fees of $250 * ~20 platinum players for $5k Subtract $500 in future equity for say, 10 people who qualify for a pt or advance their pro level for another $5k Subtract Judge travel, accommodation and remuneration (in product?) Maybe average $750 times 25 people? Video Coverage, probably a few K Non judge contractors & administration. Probably a good 20-30k Renting the venue. Hard to say. Probably 20-30k also for a weekend, depending on the city? Website, misc, say 10k Hard to see them not earning a good 20 on all this. Captive market and all.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:
What are you basing these numbers on, out of curiosity?
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:And you know the person doing it without byes deserves it more too. Anyways, this got me thinking about what a loving raw deal GPs are these days. The rake is pretty insane. Let's look at this weekends Japanese GP: On the one hand, I don't know if I think $20k is an unreasonable profit to make on a professionally run GP, but I could be wrong. On the other hand, it sounds like you're making up numbers because no judge is getting $750 for a GP. Maybe the head judges because they might get travel and/or hotel money. Basically cut that in half for the average L2/L3.
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Would that income not be subject to taxation too?
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20k is dick all to make for that.
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BJPaskoff posted:On the one hand, I don't know if I think $20k is an unreasonable profit to make on a professionally run GP, but I could be wrong. On the other hand, it sounds like you're making up numbers because no judge is getting $750 for a GP. Maybe the head judges because they might get travel and/or hotel money. Basically cut that in half for the average L2/L3. Lol I thought I was being generous
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Toshimo posted:20k is dick all to make for that. But the event also doubles as advertising for Magic: The Gathering, the TO's shop, Ultrapro, etc? Advertising often isn't free unless you're a pissgoblin. Edit to clarify: I'm guessing, I didn't watch jack.
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Good pulls in 2 drafts today. 2 Cavern of Souls, a Misty Rainforest and a Damnation. Also I won the draft where I rare drafted a Misty and a Cavern. I have had pretty unreasonable pulls this entire draft period.
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Tubgoat posted:But the event also doubles as advertising for Magic: The Gathering, the TO's shop, Ultrapro, etc? Advertising often isn't free unless you're a pissgoblin. I'm going to assume that Wizards isn't paying the TO for advertising.
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Jabor posted:The "risky" bit is that we might be going into a format that has actual graveyard interaction that just so happens to totally screw over the deck. haha, printing graveyard hate, good joke
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Yeah Maro's comment about seeing amonkhet before asking if they should have printed gy hate was a laugh. All I can say is that flashback 2.0 was the reason we didn't get gy hate for 4 blocks it was a lovely loving reason. E ; if anything its a bigger reason to have printed it lmao
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Skyl3lazer posted:Yeah Maro's comment about seeing amonkhet before asking if they should have printed gy hate was a laugh. All I can say is that flashback 2.0 was the reason we didn't get gy hate for 4 blocks it was a lovely loving reason. But removing someone's powerful cast-from-graveyard effect from the graveyard gives newer players the feelbads!!!
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Skyl3lazer posted:Yeah Maro's comment about seeing amonkhet before asking if they should have printed gy hate was a laugh. All I can say is that flashback 2.0 was the reason we didn't get gy hate for 4 blocks it was a lovely loving reason. I think the next set was too late to make any changes to and it will be the last set that turned out to last pet set of all the folks who had really dumb visions of what standard should be. Alpha investments put out a good video today about the ups and downs of magic popularity based on lovely design decisions over the lifespan of magic.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:And you know the person doing it without byes deserves it more too. Anyways, this got me thinking about what a loving raw deal GPs are these days. The rake is pretty insane. Let's look at this weekends Japanese GP: None of the prize money, appearance fees, or equity have anything whatsoever to do with entry fees. Entry fees are kept by the tournament organizer, prizes come from WotC. You also are literally just making up numbers as far as I can tell, so I'm not sure what the point of this exercise is.
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Toshimo posted:20k is dick all to make for that.
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The funny thing is that if WotC makes a horrible design decision, the ramifications of that don't come for a long while, and then it takes just as long if not longer to recognize and fix them. That whole process of idea to mistake to recognition to fix takes, what, two years?
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BJPaskoff posted:The funny thing is that if WotC makes a horrible design decision, the ramifications of that don't come for a long while, and then it takes just as long if not longer to recognize and fix them. That whole process of idea to mistake to recognition to fix takes, what, two years? They had less than a year to work on adjusting Amonkhet to the new-new rotation, right?
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BJPaskoff posted:The funny thing is that if WotC makes a horrible design decision, the ramifications of that don't come for a long while, and then it takes just as long if not longer to recognize and fix them. That whole process of idea to mistake to recognition to fix takes, what, two years? You would think with how important testing is to their game that they would have that under control but lol
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Today's GP taught us the importance of tireless tracker, and how it wins games unchecked.
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DangerDongs posted:Today's GP taught us the importance of tireless tracker, and how it wins games unchecked. I always felt like Tracker was the biggest problem back in the Collected Company days. Everyone complained about the annoying 2 and 3 mana 2/3s and ignoring the 3 mana 3/2 that draws you 8 cards and hits like a truck.
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Sickening posted:Alpha investments put out a good video today about the ups and downs of magic popularity based on lovely design decisions over the lifespan of magic. I just watched it and I think he does a good job of summarizing the history of MTG but I'd argue that his point of "WotC has always been able to pull up in time" might not hold as true today as it has in the past. The card game market today isn't like the early 2000s where YuGiOh and Pokemon tried to beat MTG at its own game. WotC is going to have to figure out what actually makes twitch streams entertaining, esports popular, or electronic card games appealing. Otherwise younger, more agile companies will do it for them. e: Alternatively, they might want to cut bait with the online stuff and distinguish MTG as a thing to go out and do. As far as that goes it does pretty well and it may never be able to compete with FTP games when decks cost hundreds of dollars at best. ThePeavstenator fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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It wouldn't hurt for them to emulate the hearthstone model, but they should strive to make their game more about social gatherings, and playing the big tournaments in person. Make a commercial with a bunch of dudes getting drunk and yelling at each other about the Stack.
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Entropic posted:If you saw one great card for an archetype P1P2 and it quickly dried up after that, but you stayed in it, that's on you. Nice extrapolation of "went to hell" into an in depth analysis of how I stuck on a none open line after one pick.
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YggdrasilTM posted:Eh, I think people are confusing diversity and fun. I found the gamplay of Tower decks quite boring. This one at least had an interesting sideboard plan. Eh, I've loved every version of Tower I have played since the card game out. UR, Grixis, Jeskai, Temur. I guess what I'm saying is, UR is fun, Tower is an interesting win-con for UR decks that can be allowed to do cool stuff like draw cards.
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Will the duel deck being spoiled tomorrow include Amonkhet cards?
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Finally drafted some modern masters and went all in on bant value town. Splashed for teleportal and easily went 3-0. My last 3 picks in the draft were all on-color guildgates.
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DangerDongs posted:Make a commercial with a bunch of dudes getting drunk and yelling at each other about the Stack. Why would they make a commercial about Judge conferences. Or my posts in the Ask-A-Judge group? There was a recent discussion about a Summoner's Pact missed trigger that lasted for about 30 posts more than it should have, I should've been drinking  Rinkles posted:Will the duel deck being spoiled tomorrow include Amonkhet cards? They generally do IIRC. I don't think we'll see anything huge, but they generally clue us in to some mechanics and the like.
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went 4-0 going esper flicker/tokens, only value pulled was a foil might of old krosa and temporal mastery  i reeeeeally wanna crack my 5 mm17 packs but i probably shouldn't.
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What's the best way to move high value cards for cash, should I just put them on eBay? I have an Expedition Ancient Tomb and a MM17 Foil Linvala, but I've had no luck on my Facebook groups. I'm in the UK, otherwise I'd try the Goon Store.
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BizarroAzrael posted:What's the best way to move high value cards for cash, should I just put them on eBay? I have an Expedition Ancient Tomb and a MM17 Foil Linvala, but I've had no luck on my Facebook groups. I'm in the UK, otherwise I'd try the Goon Store. The Manaleak UK trading group is absolutely trash right now. The difference between Buying and Selling prices are crazy because of people trying to use multiple sites and conversion rates to decide how valuable their lovely cardboard rectangles are. Go for ebay or magiccardmarket, if you need money quick, magicmadhouse always have a decent buylist. Samael fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Samael posted:Go for ebay or magiccardmarket, if you need money quick, magicmadhouse always have a decent buylist. Apparently not always, it's temporarily closed, but I'll keep an eye out. I'm after some high value cards so can look at trading in. Not in a hurry, can maybe cash them in at GP Montreal.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Apparently not always, it's temporarily closed, but I'll keep an eye out. I'm after some high value cards so can look at trading in. Not in a hurry, can maybe cash them in at GP Montreal. You can make a post in the SA-Mart card selling/buying thread
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BizarroAzrael posted:My past experience of that was that it was very US centric. West Hemisphere Best Hemisphere
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Mind vs. Might deck lists: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/duel-decks-mind-vs-might-2017-03-20 Storm/Suspend vs.Bloodthirsty Warriors. No spoilers cards. New gorilla art for Guttural Response. GoutPatrol fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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GoutPatrol posted:Mind vs. Might deck lists: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/duel-decks-mind-vs-might-2017-03-20 I knew when I saw the hotly sought after Lovisa Coldeyes was a marquee card that nothing of value would be in these decks. They look interesting to play I guess, but there isn't much in them.
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