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Mazz posted:I tried to summon you to the A/T milhist thread today to right some bad s-tank posting but that’ll do I haven't been keeping up with that thread at all  if someone is wrong on the internet though I guess I must do the needful
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I guess Russia is admitting at this point that their surface fleet is a joke. Only their submarines are in any way intimidating.
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https://www.360pano.de/pano/pano7.html
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Another Russian caught on dash-cam footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzk_lgUlWag
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:I guess Russia is admitting at this point that their surface fleet is a joke. Only their submarines are in any way intimidating. Not if they don't get that drydock floating again.
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Blistex posted:Not if they don't get that drydock floating again. Subs will be beaching themselves, whale style, to get regular maintenance!
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Meanwhile in America...
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Blistex posted:Not if they don't get that drydock floating again. Or if they use it to repair subs while both are still underwater 
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Don Gato posted:Or if they use it to repair subs while both are still underwater <taps head gif> priznat posted:Subs will be beaching themselves, whale style, to get regular maintenance! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4P2g2cyCKs
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thesurlyspringKAA posted:I guess Russia is admitting at this point that their surface fleet is a joke. Only their submarines are in any way intimidating. When did they say that?
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RandomPauI posted:When did they say that? They announced it via smoke signals. 
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Welp, look slike the Chinese got the tvc engine working? Cobra maneuver and all the rest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOCmLhB44Og
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Blistex posted:<taps head gif> I learned how to use a sextant as a curiosity. I have a thirty‐buck plastic sextant (originally designed for lifeboats) that demonstrates the principles, but a metal one would look better hanging on my wall. Anyway, what I’m getting to is that the sextant market right now is driven by salvage from Indian shipbreaking yards and I thought that was kind of interesting. Many ships enter the yards with forgotten sextants aboard, and they’re worth a few hundred bucks to pick out and sell on eBay to yachtsmen.
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Blistex posted:<taps head gif>  I was actually kind of thinking of shipbreaker beach.. Funny that ship being beached looks really similar to the ferry design we have here. It's pretty messed up that that is the most economical way of dealing with old ships, just an environmental and labour standards horror show. Good photo gallery I saw a while back: https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2014/11/the-ship-breakers/100859/ priznat fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Nov 6, 2018 |
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Kemper Boyd posted:Finland managed to retain shipbuilding capabilities through specialization (last I heard of it, there's only two spots in the world capable of building those gigantic cruise liners that RCC runs, Finland and South Korea) and we're currently replacing seven beat-to-poo poo navy vessels with four new corvettes/frigates/whatever they're going to call them.
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Collateral Damage posted:And then Sweden and Denmark fucks it up for them by building the Öresund bridge which limits how tall ships sailing in or out of the baltic sea can be. Pretty sure the Oresund bridge has a submerged section.
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U-bridges are v much a thing.
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Pretty sure the Oresund bridge has a submerged section. Oasis of the Seas and Allure of the Seas both had to go via Stora Bält instead, which also has a bridge but has more clearance. Even then they had to remove the smokestacks, wait for low tide and give it full power to force it deeper into the water to pass with only half a meter of clearance to spare. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39909997/ns/travel-cruise_travel/t/worlds-largest-cruise-ship-clears-bridge-obstacle/ Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Nov 6, 2018 |
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I’m not claustrophobic but those submerged floating bridges scare the willies out of me. Basically Norway wants to build (or has built? Was a while ago I saw this) my personal hell https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/07/norway-could-build-the-worlds-first-floating-tunnel
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Underwater concrete bridges anchored to floating pontoons. No part of this sound like a good idea. Concrete isn't a material well-known for its elasticity.
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Look up how much large bridges and buildings twist and sway in the wind.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Look up how much large bridges and buildings twist and sway in the wind. Or just cross the Verrazzano narrows bridge when its windy.
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priznat posted:I’m not claustrophobic but those submerged floating bridges scare the willies out of me. What happens if (when?) a ship hits one of those pontoons?
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MadBurgerMaker posted:What happens if (when?) a ship hits one of those pontoons? What happens if (when) a ship hits the pylons on a traditional bridge? If it’s designed well and with enough extra support to allow for one or two being taken out, nothing. If it’s right at the edge of the structure’s capability to remain intact to begin with it will fail. Given that it’s the Danes and Swedes I’m going to guess that they hired competent architects and builders and that if anything it’s a touch over built with exactly that scenario in mind, in addition to physical protection for the pontoons and the other collision prevention/mitigation stuff you see commonly on more normal bridges. If we were taking about one in Italy I would be a touch more concerned given their recent track record with normal bridges.
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priznat posted:I’m not claustrophobic but those submerged floating bridges scare the willies out of me. Now I'm thinking "this is what PEI should have gotten"
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quote:This statement was issued even though military documents obtained through the Access to Information law show that the senior leadership knew on Dec. 6, 2017 about the out of control drinking on the trip. This was a flight that involved more than a “few beverages” as the Citizen later discovered. And no commercial flight would ever allow the widespread abuse of alcohol that took place. VIPs have actually disrupted commercial flights with overdrinking before so...
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Cyrano4747 posted:If we were taking about one in Italy I would be a touch more concerned given their recent track record with normal bridges. The one to be concerned about is the “Bridge of Death” made to connect Hong Kong with China via a sea bridge, the whole thing is surround by one scandal after another; from anywhere from accidentally entombing workers in concrete and no one realizing it to companies cutting corners by building support pillars without steel reinforcements. The thing is a disaster waiting to happen. Back Hack fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Nov 6, 2018 |
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Cyrano4747 posted:If we were taking about one in Italy I would be a touch more concerned given their recent track record with normal bridges. Not a lot of EA-6s left, anyway.
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LingcodKilla posted:It’s not so bad in Norfolk but the traffic is hideous during the week. Also people occasionally pass out holding their breath while they drive through the tunnel part.
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shame on an IGA posted:U-bridges are v much a thing. Is the Chunnel a bridge?
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MrYenko posted:Not a lot of EA-6s left, anyway. 
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Warbadger posted:Also people occasionally pass out holding their breath while they drive through the tunnel part. I'm sure that just reinforces whatever weird logic that led them down that path in the first place. *The tunnel is full of things because it's a tunnel under water* *I must go through tunnel, it is faster than going around* *How do I avoid poisoning myself with tunnel things?* *I got it! I will hold my breath!" *Where am I? I must have passed out. loving tunnel things!" *Oh, no! I am still in tunnel" *Holds breath* Repeat
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Cyrano4747 posted:What happens if (when) a ship hits the pylons on a traditional bridge? Since these things are floating, I was wondering how a shock like that would affect it. It would be interesting to see if the whole thing could move, at least some, to help absorb it, or if the pontoons would sort of bounce out of the way a little without making it seem like the world is ending when you're inside, or if the whole thing is just strong enough/shaped a certain way to not be affected really at all and the cruise ship just sort of deflects off. MadBurgerMaker fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Nov 6, 2018 |
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Nebakenezzer posted:Now I'm thinking "this is what PEI should have gotten" Don’t they have icebergs floatin around  Really that bridge should probably be covered so big rigs don’t get blown over. E: also if you want to piss off a vancouver islander just mention the PEI bridge gently caress THAT BULLSHIT “PROVINCE”
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MrYenko posted:Not a lot of EA-6s left, anyway. 
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priznat posted:E: also if you want to piss off a vancouver islander just mention the PEI bridge What is even in PEI besides Anne of Green Gables cosplay anyway. 
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