paragon1 posted:A and if we get big infamy for this then Morroco better get a loving massive one for holding on to Greece of all places. Keep in mind that Morocco didn't demand the entirety of Greece, they only held onto the Peloponnese, which in vicky is a single state. Option A, on the other hand, will be us demanding 5 different states. That said, yeah they did get an infamy hit. Tiger Crazy posted:A Yep, first update will be an in-depth state of the world.
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Jun 8, 2018 21:12
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A The empire, long divided, must unite!
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Jun 8, 2018 21:16
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All in. History does not reward timidity.
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Jun 8, 2018 21:22
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A What once was shall be again
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Jun 8, 2018 21:28
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Go big or go home! A!
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Jun 8, 2018 21:32
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This is for all the marbles, and I'm proud to see the noble children of Andalusia standing together to reclaim what was wrongfully ripped from our bosom. A
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Jun 8, 2018 21:36
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RabidWeasel posted:Pretty sure he's talking about the cores which you naturally get via random events after researching state & nationalism or whatever it's called, which requires you to own the provinces already. oh yeah gently caress that then
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Jun 8, 2018 21:39
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Jun 8, 2018 21:42
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C national borders will hold no meaning when the people seize the means of production from the corrupt majils and kings!
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Jun 8, 2018 21:43
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Even though A is going to win, I'm voting B. Catalunya should be our reverse Portugal on the interior of the peninsula.
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Jun 8, 2018 21:46
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A gently caress it, this is what it's all about.
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Jun 8, 2018 21:50
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I think we can call it for A I think everything else has two votes tops.
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Jun 8, 2018 21:51
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Jun 8, 2018 21:54
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habeasdorkus posted:This is for all the marbles, and I'm proud to see the noble children of Andalusia standing together to reclaim what was wrongfully ripped from our bosom. The Majlis, in its wisdom, will reclaim what was lost through the incompetence of the Majlis.
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Jun 8, 2018 22:01
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B IS the more sane, prudent choice so A and gently caress Morocco
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Jun 8, 2018 22:04
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A All Andalusians must be united under the free and sovereign sultanate of Al-Andalus.
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Be realistic. We can take back Cattalan after they piss off everyone again. More important to be in a good position to ally France or Egypt against Morocco
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Jun 8, 2018 22:12
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A, all Iberia belongs to Al Andalus.
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Jun 8, 2018 22:21
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A All of Iberia belongs to Al Andalus!
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Jun 8, 2018 22:21
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RabidWeasel posted:Pretty sure he's talking about the cores which you naturally get via random events after researching state & nationalism or whatever it's called, which requires you to own the provinces already. KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:oh yeah gently caress that then For what it's worth, no, I'd have custom events that gives us cores on the various states a short while after we capture them (the timing would vary from state to state, depending on pops).
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Jun 8, 2018 22:26
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Anything but A would be against the spirit of the thread, I feel.
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Jun 8, 2018 22:30
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Hashim posted:For what it's worth, no, I'd have custom events that gives us cores on the various states a short while after we capture them (the timing would vary from state to state, depending on pops). This vote is suffering from a lack of information: The Vicky players are voting based on how the game goes for them; while you are putting in events that negate the need to game the system like we're voting. A seems like the logic choice for a vanilla game, but B seems like the actual correct choice.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:This vote is suffering from a lack of information: The Vicky players are voting based on how the game goes for them; while you are putting in events that negate the need to game the system like we're voting. I've already edited the vote post a while back, saying "If this option is chosen, we will receive cores on the various Iberian territories if and when we conquer them." That seems like enough to assume that it won't be the cores you get via random events, because they fire randomly after a set tech is researched (so not when we conquer a territory), and only occur on a province basis. The only other solution would be custom events. If anyone needs more info, just say so and I'll fill you in.
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Jun 8, 2018 22:35
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All of it belongs to us!
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Jun 8, 2018 22:35
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A I take it back, let's go full Hohenzollern
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Jun 8, 2018 22:39
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A. all land up to the Pyrenees is rightfully ours!
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Jun 8, 2018 22:40
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A The fitna was less than two generations ago and these rogue states must be brought back into the fold.
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Jun 8, 2018 22:46
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Go big or go home. Voting A for all Andalusi clay.
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Jun 8, 2018 22:46
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A i'm sure diplomatically isolating ourselves will turn out fine imo
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Jun 8, 2018 22:50
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B but only in the hope that we get something out of this poo poo show.
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Jun 8, 2018 22:53
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:This vote is suffering from a lack of information: The Vicky players are voting based on how the game goes for them; while you are putting in events that negate the need to game the system like we're voting. I think A is still the correct choice. The events Hashim's talking about only kick in after we conquer the territories. Meaning if we don't get the cores now, we have to conquer by fabricating CBs, which is going to take a long-rear end time and more wars.
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Jun 8, 2018 22:55
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Even if we ignore the in-game ramifications of our decision it seems unlikely that after everything they've gone through that the current government would demand anything less than restoration of the full peninsula at all costs.
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I vote A Also my view on truce issue: Hashim posted:I wasn't planning to set any truces, no. Well from game point of view, this would be a better option, but from logical point of view I think great powers in Europe should get a truce. They just got out of the decades long war, organized a congress to decide future of Europe, and then all of it to go out in puff of smoke days after they finalized all of the details seem a bit counter-productive. Why organize a congress and vote for future of Europe, if it will be dismantled only days after the ink dries on the deal? I think all great powers would a 5 year truce between newly formed states and between great powers, so former could have some room to setup administration and latter could rebuild after Tirruni war and War for Russian Crown. But if some kind of revolution happens in one of the states, I reckon an event could be made for AI to decide whether to upheld to the truce or ignore it for a massive infamy hit.
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Jun 8, 2018 23:03
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A and everyone who voted otherwise should be thrown into the sea
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Jun 8, 2018 23:03
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ALL BELONGS TO AL-ANDALUS!
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Jun 8, 2018 23:08
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Whoever thought the Majils could be moved toward modesty has not read a history book. A
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Jun 8, 2018 23:24
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Al-Andalus forever.
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Jesenjin posted:Well from game point of view, this would be a better option, but from logical point of view I think great powers in Europe should get a truce. They just got out of the decades long war, organized a congress to decide future of Europe, and then all of it to go out in puff of smoke days after they finalized all of the details seem a bit counter-productive. Yeah, this all makes sense. I think I'm gonna have the first few test games run without truces, and if war explodes from the get-go far too often, then I'll add truces and see if it improves things at all.
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We've spent all these votes trying to build up some political clout, and you lot want to waste it on a war-torn and devastated Qattalun? B is the only choice that is in any way, shape or form reasonable!
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