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Methanar posted:
"The lease does not allow for payment or reimbursement of a partial months rent. Please let me know if your last month will be July or August. If July, I need to know by July 1st per the lease agreement of 30 days notice or additional charges will apply."
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Jun 24, 2018 19:23
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I find it bizarre that a tenant would send a flippant email like that. Poster above has absolutely nailed the proper response.
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Jun 24, 2018 19:42
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It's not terribly bizarre to prorate partial months, but usually it's the scenario of out on the first but moving the third, prorate a couple days, not half a month.
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Jun 24, 2018 19:56
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nah I meant mainly the real informal nature of the email, but then maybe Methanar is close with the tenant. like I'm pretty close with my landlady, but I still stick to formal layouts when it comes to apartment related stuff.
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Jun 24, 2018 20:00
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There's such a big difference between "I expect the rent" and "you owe rent". And between "so far this has been a monthly agreement" and "this is a monthly agreement". And between "the regular rent" or "the full amount" (when they are explicitly asking about the amount). Why would you leave all that open to the interpretation that you're unsure about it or that there is perhaps room for negotiation after all?
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Jun 24, 2018 20:07
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Its been very informal. No particular relationship. The girl is even more afraid of confrontation than I am so this probably won't cause a stink. And she gave me a hard time at the beginning so I don't feel like giving any favors. I've simplified down to. quote:I do expect the regular monthly rent. This is a month-by-month agreement.
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Jun 24, 2018 21:28
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quote:That’s fair, thanks for letting me know Well that was easy.
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Jun 24, 2018 21:30
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In the game double ditto, what is the difference between the two different colored decks?
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Jun 24, 2018 22:31
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Methanar posted:
Are you loving serious? They've given you well over a month's notice and you're saying "no, you can't move out that day"?
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Jun 24, 2018 23:21
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Tiggum posted:Are you loving serious? They've given you well over a month's notice and you're saying "no, you can't move out that day"? He's not saying she can't move out that day, just that she has to pay the entire month's rent.
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Jun 24, 2018 23:23
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Tiggum posted:Are you loving serious? They've given you well over a month's notice and you're saying "no, you can't move out that day"? Some contracts are as much as 90 days.
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Jun 24, 2018 23:25
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El Jeffe posted:He's not saying she can't move out that day, just that she has to pay the entire month's rent. Yeah. Where I live that would be illegal.
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Jun 24, 2018 23:31
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It's 100% legal everywhere in the US, and more than that, it's the custom everywhere here. You're responsible for the full month unless your landlord replaces you before the end of the month, in which case the landlord reimburses you for the corresponding length of time.
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Jun 24, 2018 23:52
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Jun 25, 2018 00:12
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Tiggum posted:Yeah. Where I live that would be illegal. What he's done is entirely fair. I've been in situations as a tenant where I've given plenty of notice and have politely asked the landlord to actively start looking for a new tenant, telling them they're more than welcome to start viewings if it means I can leave early and only pay partial rent. This has worked a couple of times when a prospective tenant has been found, but the times where it hasn't worked, I've paid the entire months rent and just managed my move-out day based around that. It's a pain in the rear end, cause I usually end up having two places at once, but that's life. From now on, I just automatically base my move-out day around my apartment contract, it's much easier. Leaving halfway through and paying partial rent, it's not worth the hassle, cause the estate agent / landlord usually gives you a hard time about it and will try and recoup money through other bullshit means (garden is unkempt, pay for a gardener, apartment untidy, pay for a cleaner) even if everything is as it was when I arrived. It's also annoying having a tonne of randos viewing your place, I don't really like that. A lot of viewers are also very rude and snoopy, and if I'm busy, the thought of people looking around my place with my landlord whilst I'm not present makes me feel iffy. Qubee fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Jun 25, 2018 |
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Jun 25, 2018 10:20
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Qubee posted:What he's done is entirely fair.
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Jun 25, 2018 13:20
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It would be acceptable and normal to pay partial rent if the person gave notice several months in advance and they had another person lined up to take over the rental at that time. You could go so far as to offer a half month's rent if they took responsibility for finding a replacement who could move in immediately. When we have had roommates who moved out early, they have done so at their own initiative. Of course we vetted their replacement briefly to make sure they were a good fit. If it wasn't going to work out, then they would have paid for the full month's rent. This is also why it's good idea to draw up a contract that requires a notice of 2 or three months in advance of moving, or eviction. It protects both parties. Edit: The informal month-by-month arrangement can be a huge hassle. I don't recommend it even with friends, unless you don't really need the extra income from renting a room out. Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Jun 25, 2018 |
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Jun 25, 2018 13:30
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I’m confused, are you guys talking about paying rent for a place you’re not living in? Like you leave May 31st and pay rent for June, even though you’re not living there anymore?
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Jun 25, 2018 13:41
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tuyop posted:I’m confused, are you guys talking about paying rent for a place you’re not living in? Like you leave May 31st and pay rent for June, even though you’re not living there anymore? Specifically something like you leave on May 17th and have to pay for 18-31st of May as well, not the next month. Pretty sure it depends on the original lease whether your final rent is prorated to the day you leave.
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Jun 25, 2018 14:03
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tuyop posted:I’m confused, are you guys talking about paying rent for a place you’re not living in? Like you leave May 31st and pay rent for June, even though you’re not living there anymore? No, just ending a rental contract or lease early by leaving mid-month. So leaving in the middle of May, but paying for the entire month. I suppose you could have a rental agreement where the tenant paid by the day, but imo that's better suited for Airbnb or similiar. Even airbnb rarely allows for refunds if you leave early. Fruits of the sea fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jun 25, 2018 |
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Jun 25, 2018 14:04
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tuyop posted:I’m confused, are you guys talking about paying rent for a place you’re not living in? Like you leave May 31st and pay rent for June, even though you’re not living there anymore? The rule in Victoria is that "you don’t have to wait until your rent is due before you give notice that you intend to vacate. If you want to leave in the middle of a rent cycle, you should calculate how many days’ rent you owe and pay that amount as your final rent payment. For example, if you give 28 days’ notice halfway through a monthly rent cycle, you will only have to pay about 2 weeks’ rent." In America it is apparently legal and customary to require tenants to pay rent up to the end of the month, so if your rent is due on the 1st and you give notice in the middle of the month then you'll still be stuck paying for those extra two-and-a-bit weeks. The stockholm syndrome sufferers in this thread are defending that as perfectly reasonable for some reason.
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Jun 25, 2018 14:05
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It's normal in socialist wonderland Denmark too, for what it's worth. Speaking as a student who lives on a budget in a city with a housing shortage, its a financial necessity. And again, the two times we have had a roommate leave mid-month, they were able to find a replacement to move in the next day, so paying for the full month wasn't necessary in those cases.
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Jun 25, 2018 14:11
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Tiggum posted:The rule in Victoria is that "you don’t have to wait until your rent is due before you give notice that you intend to vacate. If you want to leave in the middle of a rent cycle, you should calculate how many days’ rent you owe and pay that amount as your final rent payment. For example, if you give 28 days’ notice halfway through a monthly rent cycle, you will only have to pay about 2 weeks’ rent." It's apparently normal in Victoria as well: When you don’t have a fixed-term tenancy agreement If you intend to leave before the 28 days are up, you should tell the landlord and return the keys so the premises can be re-let earlier if possible. If other tenants can be found before the 28 days are up, you will not be liable for rent from the date that they move in. ... When you do have a fixed-term tenancy agreement If your fixed-term lease is about to expire, you can give 14 or 28 days’ notice in writing (as explained above). If you intend to move out on the date that the fixed term expires, you still have to give written notice. This is because when a fixed-term agreement expires, it automatically continues as a periodic agreement (ie month to month) until either you or the landlord give notice. The date that you give as the last day of your tenancy cannot be before the last day of the fixed term. This applies even when the landlord has given you a Notice to Vacate that expires on the last day of the fixed term. If you have a fixed-term tenancy agreement and you want to leave before the expiry date, you will probably be liable for lease breaking costs.
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Jun 25, 2018 14:19
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greazeball posted:If you intend to leave before the 28 days are up, you should tell the landlord and return the keys so the premises can be re-let earlier if possible. If other tenants can be found before the 28 days are up, you will not be liable for rent from the date that they move in. greazeball posted:When you do have a fixed-term tenancy agreement
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Jun 25, 2018 14:31
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is there a way to disable the left-swipe-camera on facebook mobile app? Using an iphone and it's a bitch when im thumb browsing and that drat unwanted camera gets brought up inb4 "delete facebook"
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Jun 25, 2018 14:37
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Tiggum posted:In America it is apparently legal and customary to require tenants to pay rent up to the end of the month, so if your rent is due on the 1st and you give notice in the middle of the month then you'll still be stuck paying for those extra two-and-a-bit weeks. The stockholm syndrome sufferers in this thread are defending that as perfectly reasonable for some reason. Stockholm syndrome? Try landlords, the ones who are on the hook for all the repairs and hassle and who take on all the risk of having tenants for the benefit of profit. gently caress with the profit and you are now a problem tenant. Read and follow your lease people!
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Jun 25, 2018 15:13
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Tiggum posted:That's if you want to move out within the 28 day notice period. If you give at least four weeks notice then you stop paying rent on the day you specify, not at the end of the month. A month seems to be a pretty fixed term.
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Jun 25, 2018 15:17
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greazeball posted:A month seems to be a pretty fixed term. A rolling month contract isn't a fixed term contract. I realise that you can think of it as signing a new one month fixed term every month, but in practice you aren't doing that. Its term is kinda definitionally, not fixed. A fixed-term is like 6, 12, 18 months, and that's the kind of lease where you face charges for breaking the lease early.
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Jun 25, 2018 15:27
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greazeball posted:A month seems to be a pretty fixed term.
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Jun 25, 2018 17:19
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baquerd posted:Stockholm syndrome? Try landlords, the ones who are on the hook for all the repairs and hassle and who take on all the risk of having tenants for the benefit of profit. gently caress with the profit and you are now a problem tenant. Read and follow your lease people! Won’t somebody please think of the landlords!
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Jun 25, 2018 17:33
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Alan Smithee posted:is there a way to disable the left-swipe-camera on facebook mobile app? Using an iphone and it's a bitch when im thumb browsing and that drat unwanted camera gets brought up that's the trouble with question threads, people know what the correct answer is but don't want to hear it  (sorry, if there is a way I don't know what it is)
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Jun 25, 2018 17:37
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baquerd posted:Stockholm syndrome? Try landlords, the ones who are on the hook for all the repairs and hassle and who take on all the risk of having tenants for the benefit of profit. gently caress with the profit and you are now a problem tenant. Read and follow your lease people! Boo hoo, risk is linked to reward!
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Jun 25, 2018 18:09
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ineptmule posted:Won’t somebody please think of the landlords! Depends on if the original goon is the landlord or just subletting, it's not clear. Subletting, all the minuses of being a landlord, but no extra money!  God I can't wait to find my own place.
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Jun 25, 2018 21:48
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Any one provide a link to that old FB(?) post where the chick learns one day before her big trip that you do indeed need a passport to visit the US? It's an old thing and I can't find it.
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Jun 25, 2018 23:20
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Fruits of the sea posted:Depends on if the original goon is the landlord or just subletting, it's not clear. Subletting, all the minuses of being a landlord, but no extra money! Yes, but also: the veneration that the average American has for capital is just astounding.
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Jun 25, 2018 23:41
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tuyop posted:Boo hoo, risk is linked to reward! Yes, except landlords get to be proactive about risk reduction in many ways. If you don't like a lease, no one is forcing you to sign it.
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Jun 25, 2018 23:53
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What is it called when you fraudulently report fraud? Fraud fraud?
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Jun 26, 2018 00:38
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Alan Smithee posted:is there a way to disable the left-swipe-camera on facebook mobile app? Using an iphone and it's a bitch when im thumb browsing and that drat unwanted camera gets brought up Switch to Facebook Lite? It was designed for older phones or slower connections so it has fewer annoying features.
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Jun 26, 2018 00:47
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Budgie Jumping posted:What is it called when you fraudulently report fraud? Fraud fraud? Defamation works, but that's a general term.
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Jun 26, 2018 00:53
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Budgie Jumping posted:What is it called when you fraudulently report fraud? Fraud fraud? Probably just fraud. Like if you max out a credit card then report it as fraud to not pay for it you're defrauding the credit card company. That's just regular fraud.
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