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So who’s taking over after this dumpster fire scandal.
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In cases like this where it's clearly a longstanding pattern of behaviour, I always have to wonder what caused the Sexual Assault of Damocles to drop
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Jan 25, 2018 07:41
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I'm not as familiar with rules around riding associations and party candidates and such... Brown says he wants to stay on as an MPP while he clears his name. I can't see the party keeping him as a candidate, but can they parachute someone else in at this point? He's probably going to lose. They were so quick, like three hours quick, to get him out of the leadership, but will they try to get him off the ballot, too?
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Jan 25, 2018 07:47
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i just wanted to bbe a premier
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Jan 25, 2018 07:48
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So Brown has resigned as leader. https://twitter.com/goldsbie/status/956413225532260352 Congrats to Doug Ford for his upcoming OPC leadership and of course a dismayed sigh that this does no long lasting harm to the loving party
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Jan 25, 2018 08:15
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Well that was fast
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Jan 25, 2018 08:21
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vyelkin posted:She's good at purging people who don't support her from the ranks of the ONDP. How big a purge are we talking?
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Jan 25, 2018 08:56
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Lol.
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Jan 25, 2018 09:16
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https://twitter.com/A_Strong_Canada/status/956424048539525120
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Jan 25, 2018 13:43
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Now there's a name we all know and trust.
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Jan 25, 2018 13:48
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Jeez if you told me Wynne was going to get re-elected six months ago I'd have called you an idiot. Ontario is straight hosed.
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Jan 25, 2018 14:02
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https://twitter.com/Banks_Todd/status/956371492815757312 Oh nothing, just a public utility retweeting some false flag gibberish
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Jan 25, 2018 14:03
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flakeloaf posted:https://twitter.com/Banks_Todd/status/956371492815757312 That has to be a script error
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Jan 25, 2018 14:23
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Postess with the Mostest posted:That has to be a script error Or whoever runs Hydro Ottawa Twitter thought they were retweeting from their own personal account.
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Jan 25, 2018 14:26
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Risky Bisquick posted:So who’s taking over after this dumpster fire scandal. Sam Oosterhoff
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Jan 25, 2018 15:21
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quote:The woman said she did not report it to authorities or otherwise because she didn’t know what options she had, and tried to move on. This is always the part of the story that is somehow the most terrifying and infuriating. Not the act itself but the feeling of total helplessness and bewilderment when the victim wonders if there's anything they can even do about it after the fact and realizing, no, there's not. It's coming to light now, but if he hadn't ended up becoming the man who might take charge of the province, would the story be a big enough hook for anyone to care? It's still apparently not bad enough for him to fully lose his job.
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Jan 25, 2018 15:21
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Well, seems to be catching: /2018/01/24/nova-scotia-s-progressive-conservative-leader-steps-down-for-personal-reasons.html
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Jan 25, 2018 15:52
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Link is broken Brian Mulroney's daughter taking over for a disgraced leader stepping down too early 
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Jan 25, 2018 16:14
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Heckuva job, Brownie.
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Jan 25, 2018 16:17
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Oh god please let the next one be Jason Kenney. I ask for so little...
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Jan 25, 2018 16:17
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PT6A posted:Oh god please let the next one be Jason Kenney. Kellie would be much more entertaining
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Jan 25, 2018 16:17
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PT6A posted:Oh god please let the next one be Jason Kenney. Jason Kenney would have to be interested in women first.
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Jan 25, 2018 16:19
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McGavin posted:Jason Kenney would have to be interested in women first. He could harass men/boys. Or get caught smoking meth with a gay prostitute, like that one Evangelical leader.
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Jan 25, 2018 16:19
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PT6A posted:He could harass men/boys. Jason Kenney would have to be human first.
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Jan 25, 2018 16:23
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Brown, Pallister and Kenney were the 3 former MPPs that were supposed to go into Ontario, Manitoba and Alberta and reinvigorate Conservative politics. So far Brown is disgraced, Pallister won an election by default and is on pace to lose the next and Kenney is going to win in a landslide. Jason Kenney is the pinnacle of Conservative politics in Canada right now.
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Jan 25, 2018 16:26
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welp that was quick. The speed of Brown's departure says two things to me: 1) the party has more information than the media, and they knew they couldn't let him hold on because every minute he spends as leader is a minute they're not rebuilding for an election five months away; 2) he tried to stay, it became clear he had no support, and he resigned rather than get fired. I'm sure a shitload of OPC partisans would have continued to support Brown, and will continue to support whoever the new leader ends up being (lol just lol if they actually appoint someone as permanent leader based solely on a spur-of-the-moment caucus vote, rather than some kind of democratic process), but I can imagine this sinking their popularity a fair amount. People will think "well Wynne hasn't done a great job but at least her party wasn't building their entire image around a sexual predator for the last two years". Eox posted:In cases like this where it's clearly a longstanding pattern of behaviour, I always have to wonder what caused the Sexual Assault of Damocles to drop I would say it's pretty clearly the new cultural climate around sexual harassment. The #MeToo campaign and women seeing a number of alleged sexual predators actually facing serious consequences to their lives and livelihoods based on allegations of sexual assault has made a lot more women willing to come forward and tell their stories with the understanding that people might actually believe them even if they have little or no hard evidence, and has made the people surrounding alleged predators a lot more willing to kick them to the curb rather than try to defend them as the targets of baseless allegations or political smears.
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Jan 25, 2018 16:28
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I really need Doug Ford to take this as his cue to dive back into provincial politics. I know at this point that even he has been made to understand that he doesn't have the support to do this, but I need him to do it anyway. Please Doug, for Ford Nation, take a crack at the OPC leadership.
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Jan 25, 2018 16:43
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infernal machines posted:I really need Doug Ford to take this as his cue to dive back into provincial politics. I know at this point that even he has been made to understand that he doesn't have the support to do this, but I need him to do it anyway. Please Doug, for Ford Nation, take a crack at the OPC leadership. While I want this too, I'm not ready for him to drop his mayoral bid where all his policies are communicated through ice sculptures.
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Jan 25, 2018 16:50
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DariusLikewise posted:Pallister won an election by default and is on pace to lose the next How do you think he's going to lose? Sure, he's made some unpopular decisions, but his base of rurals and uneducated are never going to vote for Kinew and the provincial Liberals have only just reached the point where they can actually pay their leader so they're pretty far away from running a winning campaign.
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Jan 25, 2018 18:22
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InfiniteZero posted:How do you think he's going to lose? Sure, he's made some unpopular decisions, but his base of rurals and uneducated are never going to vote for Kinew and the provincial Liberals have only just reached the point where they can actually pay their leader so they're pretty far away from running a winning campaign. Please don't say these things 
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Jan 25, 2018 18:28
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littleorv posted:Please don't say these things I'd be thrilled to be proven wrong.
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Jan 25, 2018 18:50
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/jamie-baillie-resigns-inappropriate-behaviour-1.4501742 He was already a lame duck, but seems weird that this and Brown happened so close together.
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Jan 25, 2018 18:54
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Arivia posted:Come on, they’re done for. An interim leader is like having no leader in an election. The only other option is to have a new leader elected in caucus, which still leaves you with 0 time to make a new platform and 0 ability to sell the old one. Even if, Brown has been holding riding associations so tightly bound to him they will splinter and infight like crazy without him to keep them in line. They were selling Brown and Brown only for the election. It was all about him. This is it. This is the election. does that hurt you that much when you can still run on not being kathleen wynne
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Jan 25, 2018 19:07
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PT6A posted:Oh god please let the next one be Jason Kenney. It's going to be Kent Hehr actually. http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/trudeau-davos-wraps-1.4503098
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Jan 25, 2018 19:08
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Jan 25, 2018 19:14
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InfiniteZero posted:How do you think he's going to lose? Sure, he's made some unpopular decisions, but his base of rurals and uneducated are never going to vote for Kinew and the provincial Liberals have only just reached the point where they can actually pay their leader so they're pretty far away from running a winning campaign. Elections are won and lost in Winnipeg(55% of the population in the province, 61% in the CMA). PC support has nosedived in the city(41% to 29%) after the whole ER closing fiasco and it's not going to improve before the election. Most likely scenario right now is that the PCs are the governing minority in 2020, worst case the Liberals find their legs somehow and split enough of the vote with NDP that the PCs sweep everything again I guess.
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Jan 25, 2018 19:16
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There was a gay Harper cabinet member who was famous for sexually harassing young campaign staffers while I was in Ottawa (so around 2009), but it wasn't Jason Kenney...
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Jan 25, 2018 19:27
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Chicken posted:It's going to be Kent Hehr actually. Hahaha, it totally is, isn't it? Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and say he probably did it.
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Jan 25, 2018 19:34
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DariusLikewise posted:Elections are won and lost in Winnipeg(55% of the population in the province, 61% in the CMA). PC support has nosedived in the city(41% to 29%) after the whole ER closing fiasco and it's not going to improve before the election. Most likely scenario right now is that the PCs are the governing minority in 2020, worst case the Liberals find their legs somehow and split enough of the vote with NDP that the PCs sweep everything again I guess. I hope so but don't underestimate how easily the support of dummies could be won back with a 1% PST cut.
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Jan 25, 2018 19:49
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PT6A posted:Hahaha, it totally is, isn't it? With his behaviour over the past few months, I'd be surprised if it doesn't eventually uncover something more serious.
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