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Whiskey Sours posted:Stern disapproval, but states' rights. At most, a pledge not to prosecute marijauna dispensaries from the Federal level.
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Deteriorata posted:The one that gets her the most votes and least controversy. What's this? Next you'll be telling me she'll be dodging controversial questions with milquetoast subject changes! 
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http://youtu.be/cpBzQI_7ez8?t=57s I may not be happy with his presidency, but campaign Obama really was amazing.
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De Nomolos posted:I actually did attend our state convention in 2012 as a state delegate (which anyone who wants to be one can be, just about) if only to support a friends attempt to go. From what I gathered, if you can get noticed at your district convention and get on the slate of DNC delegates there, you have good odds. I didn't even try for that. At your local city level, recruit and organize the delegation to your Congressional District. If it's apportioned in the district based on Dem election results, you'll be able to get a couple folks in as delegates if you get folks to vote as a bloc for you (especially if your city fills its delegate quota and the other areas don't). Even if that fails you get a second bite at the apple with that bloc at the DPVA convention, where there will be 90 people running for a handful of open delegate slots and if the presidential campaign doesn't have a full slate for those slots you may have a chance. Of course my only experience with that was in 2012, so your mileage may vary. Platonicsolid posted:So, in short, depends on your state and the year, and solid activism is usually rewarded. Too bad if you don't make it to the convention, though. You'll have made your community a better place for nothing. There's also 2014 and 2015 to build your activist cred - especially 2015 since State Senate and House of Delegates districts can cross county lines, you can get folks in neighboring counties in your CD to like you and help you run for DNC delegate.
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Jackson Taus posted:At your local city level, recruit and organize the delegation to your Congressional District. If it's apportioned in the district based on Dem election results, you'll be able to get a couple folks in as delegates if you get folks to vote as a bloc for you (especially if your city fills its delegate quota and the other areas don't). Even if that fails you get a second bite at the apple with that bloc at the DPVA convention, where there will be 90 people running for a handful of open delegate slots and if the presidential campaign doesn't have a full slate for those slots you may have a chance. Of course my only experience with that was in 2012, so your mileage may vary. How much does it depend on who you back for president? I didn't do any of this in 2008. I knew a lot of Dean backers in 2004 and none of them went.
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A Winner is Jew posted:http://youtu.be/cpBzQI_7ez8?t=57s Is anybody happy with Obama? Conservatives and libertarians hate him for his policies, liberals hate him because he isn't liberal enough.
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AYC posted:Is anybody happy with Obama? Conservatives and libertarians hate him for his policies, liberals hate him because he isn't liberal enough. I actually think most liberals are pretty alright with him just the left end of them hate him in the same sense that Christie isn't conservative enough for tea partiers. Lesser of two evils for the far end of the branch, but most people are cool with them.
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AYC posted:Is anybody happy with Obama? Conservatives and libertarians hate him for his policies, liberals hate him because he isn't liberal enough. I'm happy with him. I think he's done the most he can for the country considering he has to work with a lovely congress, senate, and supreme court.
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AYC posted:Is anybody happy with Obama? Conservatives and libertarians hate him for his policies, liberals hate him because he isn't liberal enough. I've been around long enough to know that the perfect President doesn't exist. He's a pragmatist, not an ideologue, hence ideologues are naturally going to dislike him. He's done well given what he's had to work with.
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AYC posted:Is anybody happy with Obama? Conservatives and libertarians hate him for his policies, liberals hate him because he isn't liberal enough. Eh, I'd vote for him for a third term if he could run. He seems to have a pretty good handle on how to be President by now. Too bad he only had two years of a cooperative Congress, but we still got some (compromised) major policy changes enacted. Plus two great SCOTUS justices (which is really what I care about the most right now).
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Pretty much. I'm not exactly happy with him, but I recognize just how much worse it could have been and what he has managed to get done despite incredible and historic levels of adversity/hostility. So I guess the best word would be "disappointed." Campaign Obama was really something else.
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AYC posted:Is anybody happy with Obama? Conservatives and libertarians hate him for his policies, liberals hate him because he isn't liberal enough. Just because I'm not happy with him doesn't mean I hate the guy or anything. And the
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I'm looking forward to Hillary getting elected, immediately depleting Obama's remaining fucks to zero. Maybe he'll finally say what he thinks of the GOP 
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Prepare to be as disappointed as most people are with his presidency then, because he's not gonna piss away his future speaking career actually saying what he thinks.
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Apr 21, 2014 23:51
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Obama will probably be the most expensive former-President for hire.
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comes along bort posted:Prepare to be as disappointed as most people are with his presidency then, because he's not gonna piss away his future speaking career actually saying what he thinks. Maybe he'll become a painter like Bush.
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comes along bort posted:Prepare to be as disappointed as most people are with his presidency then, because he's not gonna piss away his future speaking career actually saying what he thinks. Obama could reveal that yes, he actually was born in Kenya and it would not diminish his post-presidency speaking opportunities one bit.
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Obama should also be able to kick some rear end at every Democratic National Convention for a while.
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AYC posted:Maybe he'll become a painter like Bush. And Obama should do his post-presidential appearances wearing a wearing a red-yellow-green dashiki, sunglasses, and a big Africa medallion. Sadly, time and stress has probably robbed him of the ability to grow a kickin' afro.
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Dystram posted:I'm happy with him. I think he's done the most he can for the country considering he has to work with a lovely congress, senate, and supreme court. I hope Obamas presidency is a good reminder to Americans that the president is not actually some supreme monarch that can enact policy on a whim and that it is wildly important to participate in voting on local and state wide elections too! (Lol who the gently caress am I kidding. We'll never give a poo poo)
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Apr 22, 2014 00:32
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AYC posted:Maybe he'll become a painter like Bush. Nah, he's going to get sworn in as a Supreme Court Justice on a copy of The Communist Manifest while wearing a Keffiyeh and Dashiki.
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Many of the worst things during Obama's administration have been things either totally within the control of the Executive Branch or, at least, things he could have prevented - deporting 2 million people, escalation of the war in Afghanistan, continuing and increasing use of drone strikes, support for privatization of education and charters, expansion of mass surveillance, etc. That same dysfunctional and terrible Congress also prevented him from getting through an awful grand bargain to cut Social Security. Sure, Congress has been awful, and the Republican candidates for president even worse, but Obama's administration has done some loving awful things too and we shouldn't just brush those things aside by pointing at the Republicans. "The Republicans are worse" is cold comfort to the ~1100 people deported every day, tens thousands of people who have been killed in the war in Afghanistan since 2009, thousands killed by drone strikes, etc.
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Rogue0071 posted:continuing and increasing use of drone strikes To replace cruise missile launches.
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Nonsense posted:Obama will probably be the most expensive former-President for hire. He could actually write books that sell.
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Install Windows posted:To replace cruise missile launches.
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Rogue0071 posted:deporting 2 million people From what I've found the vast majority of these "deportations" are just not letting people enter the country in the first place. eg: https://www.ice.gov/removal-statistics/#footnote2 quote:ICE conducted a total of 368,644 removals.
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Yeah the majority of deportations are at the border, which is largely the result of increased border patrol presence, which has been snowballing before Obama even came into office. It is considered a 'deportation' if you catch the person right over the border, turn them around and have the walk back. Deportations of undocumented who have been living here is kind of more complicated, but it is more that since Napolitano DHS has either been dragging its feet in deporting people or outright just dropping cases. edit: also the legal process of actually removing someone who has been here for some amount of time is a lot longer than I think people realize. Even if Obama strolled into office in 2009 and from top down was like "We need to deport more people, now." (this isnt what happened) it wouldn't even be noticeable until like, now due to appeals. There'd have to be serious collusion with the immigration court judiciary to speed things up. Berke Negri fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Apr 22, 2014 |
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Here's the list of cities that the DNC is considering for the convention: Atlanta Chicago Cleveland Columbus Detroit Indianapolis Las Vegas Miami Nashville New York Orlando Philadelphia Phoenix Pittsburgh Salt Lake City I would love to see a DNC in SLC, but I doubt that one's going to make the next cut.
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Surprised not to see a Texas city on there. Guess they're waiting until 2020 to turn it blue.
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Joementum posted:Here's the list of cities that the DNC is considering for the convention: I very selfishly want it in Philly.
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I hope its Las Vegas, Atlanta, or Miami because the only fun part of conventions is seeing all the crazy hijinks politicians and their aides get up to after hours.
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aBagorn posted:I very selfishly want it in Philly. I can't imagine wanting this thing to happen anywhere near where I live. They'll create a walled city within the downtown with security barricades all over the place that will make traffic a nightmare for a week. I guess it's great news if you run a hotel or downtown restaurant/bar, but it's a huge pain in the rear end for everyone else.
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Joementum posted:Here's the list of cities that the DNC is considering for the convention: It should be Phoenix. Decent sized city with a good down-town area, a huge Hispanic population which always swings heavily democratic... and Joe Arpaio being the sheriff can't possibly backfire in the most spectacular of ways.
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Joementum posted:Here's the list of cities that the DNC is considering for the convention: There's absolutely nothing to gain from holding it in SLC or Nashville. New York is almost always a disaster for events like that. A Chicago convention when you may possibly have a primary fight between Hillary and some number of left wing grassroots candidates could be an interesting juxtaposition (but odds are that won't come to pass, Dems will get in line). I guess the proper theory would be that a convention in a swing state with an important Senate race would matter most. So...Indianapolis? Any Florida city (is Rubio vulnerable?)? Phoenix (is McCain vulnerable?)? Any Pennsylvania city? Of course, I'm skeptical of how much holding a convention somewhere matters in its ultimate vote.
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It's going to be Atlanta, Indy, or Phoenix. Probably Atlanta.
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2016 will be the first time that the cost to provide security won't be paid by the federal government, so it'll probably be held in whichever municipality agrees to foot the bill for the overtime pay to local law enforcement. I'm going to guess that Chicago will be way out in front on that score.
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Why do they even consider Las Vegas? It seems like an invitation for some really embarrassing shenanigans by party functionaries.AYC posted:Surprised not to see a Texas city on there. Guess they're waiting until 2020 to turn it blue. That's definitely it, not the fact that there's almost no chance it will go blue in 2016.
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Pook Good Mook posted:It's going to be Atlanta, Indy, or Phoenix. Probably Atlanta. I'd rather have a Republican president than go to Phoenix or Atlanta in late summer.
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