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TheRat posted:Can someone explain why Britain is in such a unique place that it can't possibly afford to have a corporation tax in line with the rest of the developed world? Britain has a ridiculously low corporation tax, yet every time I see it mentioned people act as if the Labour tax increase is going to cause terminal meltdown. Because the government's done such a shite job the rest of the time it's the only reason anyone wants to be here lol.
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TheRat posted:Can someone explain why Britain is in such a unique place that it can't possibly afford to have a corporation tax in line with the rest of the developed world? Britain has a ridiculously low corporation tax, yet every time I see it mentioned people act as if the Labour tax increase is going to cause terminal meltdown. The public does not know what our corporation tax rate is, nor that it's less than other countries, they have just had it hammered into them by the Tories and the press that raising it would make them all flee the country and also they have super smart accountants that would cheat their way around it anyway so why even try.
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TheRat posted:Can someone explain why Britain is in such a unique place that it can't possibly afford to have a corporation tax in line with the rest of the developed world?
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jeremy corbyn seems like there's a fire lit under his rear end... I wonder though if it's too late for him to turn the tide of public opinion.
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Was today bad for Jeremy Corbyn? I hear he's gaining in the polls
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In the long run all activity, human or not, contributes to increasing universal entropy, driving us all inexorably towards heat death. So, really, everything is bad for Jeremy Corbyn.
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Al-Saqr posted:jeremy corbyn seems like there's a fire lit under his rear end... I wonder though if it's too late for him to turn the tide of public opinion. The only way Labour can win is if the Tories keep loving up. And seeing how they have the manifesto out I can't see a big enough gently caress up happening. Shame that.
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OwlFancier posted:In the long run all activity, human or not, contributes to increasing universal entropy, driving us all inexorably towards heat death. i thought jeremy corbyn was in favour of human extinction though
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As the last mote of starlight winks out of existence, and is consumed by the infinte void, sputtering away into dust, it says; "This is bad for Jeremy Corbyn".
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May still has two prime time tv appearances coming up, the joint channel 4 and Sky one on the 29th and the BBC special on the 30th. It's a slim chance considering the format of both are completely neutered and perfect for just saying soundbites over and over again, but they probably are the best opportunity for May to gently caress things up.
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Alchenar posted:Dan Berman has another good post on this (http://restlessrealist.webflow.io//posts/closing-the-gap-the-uk-elections-14-days-out): The deification of Lynton Crosby by the political commentariat in the UK is an interesting thing. They forget his recent campaigns for the Canadian Conservatives, the Australian Liberal Party, and Zack Goldsmith have all fallen flat in various ways where his drive towards dead-cats flying wild personal attacks haven't been effective in the face of actual policy issues. He is obviously exceptionally skilled at what he does, but when those strategies don't deliver it seems to leave the people he is guiding fairly rudderless. twoot fucked around with this message at 23:01 on May 21, 2017 |
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Angepain posted:i thought jeremy corbyn was in favour of human extinction though Good for his agenda, bad for him personally.
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OwlFancier posted:Good for his agenda, bad for him personally. actually owlfancier, we won't be considered humans anymore once we grow gills.
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Conservative James Cleverly 27,071 53.8% UKIP Richard Bingley 9,461 18.8% Labour Malcolm Fincken 9,296 18.5% Liberal Democrat Matthew Klesel 2,488 4.9% This is my constituency in 2015. Voting Labour. Feeling positive.
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Kurtofan posted:actually owlfancier, we won't be considered humans anymore once we grow gills.  "Fuckin' topsiders and their poison land, thank god we voted Surfacexit"
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forkboy84 posted:The only way Labour can win is if the Tories keep loving up. And seeing how they have the manifesto out I can't see a big enough gently caress up happening. I have a feeling there's one big twist still left in this campaign. It's been pretty uneventful compared to the last few years of elections, and the fates have a nasty sense of humour - I think they've saved the best for last. My money's on Boris making a pass at Ivanka Trump.
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twoot posted:The deification of Lynton Crosby by the political commentariat in the UK is an interesting thing. They forget his recent campaigns for the Canadian Conservatives, the Australian Liberal Party, and Zack Goldsmith have all fallen flat in various ways where his drive towards dead-cats flying wild personal attacks haven't been effective in the face of actual policy issues. Dead cats are a signature Crosby move, but they're not what makes him so good at what he does. Crosby and his team are exceptionally effective at identifying key swing voter groups, identifying what issue concerns them most, then crafting a policy or message that appeals to them. That's the really difficult bit of electioneering that justifies his price tag. But it's not his job to be the candidate or to decide their policies and there's only so much he can do for a candidate who isn't very good at either.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I have a feeling there's one big twist still left in this campaign. It's been pretty uneventful compared to the last few years of elections, and the fates have a nasty sense of humour - I think they've saved the best for last. My money's on Boris making a pass at Ivanka Trump. May shagged Little D when she was in the US. Their hand holding was just the bittersweet end of a whirlwind romance. stev fucked around with this message at 23:20 on May 21, 2017 |
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Pochoclo posted:
The pepe meme is a bit esoteric for me nowadays.
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OwlFancier posted:In the long run all activity, human or not, contributes to increasing universal entropy, driving us all inexorably towards heat death. On a long enough timeline all polls trend to zero
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Looks like the Telegraph and the Mail leading with the re-warmed IRA story tomorrow, trying to see if they can whip up a scandal yet again from the same information. It seems unlikely to dominate the news agenda. Times going with the social care policy again though, which is nice.
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Skinty McEdger posted:May still has two prime time tv appearances coming up, the joint channel 4 and Sky one on the 29th and the BBC special on the 30th. It's a slim chance considering the format of both are completely neutered and perfect for just saying soundbites over and over again, but they probably are the best opportunity for May to gently caress things up. She's also on BBC One tomorrow evening, the first of five Andrew Neil interviews with the big five leaders.
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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I bring an important update from the ukpolitics subreddit:quote:A man comes to power promising to nationalise state industries and help the poor. He had a few dodgy associates but who doesn't? Millions of people supported him because they were fed up with being ruled by the rich who mistreated him. That man's name? Vladimir Lenin.
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OwlFancier posted:The pepe meme is a bit esoteric for me nowadays. I saw 
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It's not a meme, it's from "Man after Man" which has some very unique artwork
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TheRat posted:I bring an important update from the ukpolitics subreddit: I actively wish this were true
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Jeremy Corbyn is an uninspiring leader who is going to inspire an uprising.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I actively wish this were true If it were then I guess I can just get a copy of Darkest Hour: Kaiserreich and call it historical simulation. Full Syndicalism Now.
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TheRat posted:I bring an important update from the ukpolitics subreddit: Reddit is bad
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HJB posted:Jeremy Corbyn is an uninspiring leader who is going to inspire an uprising. What sort of uprising are you anticipating?
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I'll be plenty happy with a social democracy.
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TheRat posted:I bring an important update from the ukpolitics subreddit: I love the 'moral' in there. It takes a banal and historically incorrect comparison and change it to a real window into the posters way of thinking.
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jabby posted:Looks like the Telegraph and the Mail leading with the re-warmed IRA story tomorrow, trying to see if they can whip up a scandal yet again from the same information. It seems unlikely to dominate the news agenda. How dare Corbyn suggest that the loyalists were anywhere near as bad as the republicans. It's as if they killed civi... oh.
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rut-roh https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/866432743999254528
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Tories looking at a sub-50 majority if this happened on election day, with Labour losing about 13 seats. If Labour could claw another 2% from the Tories they could even be looking at a net gain of seats.
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jabby posted:Tories looking at a sub-50 majority if this happened on election day, with Labour losing about 13 seats. Nah the regions that these %s are going to mostly be in aren't going to shake the foundations of parliament. The election map will still be a sea of blue because the rural seats just aren't going to be anything else.
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namesake posted:Nah the regions that these %s are going to mostly be in aren't going to shake the foundations of parliament. The election map will still be a sea of blue because the rural seats just aren't going to be anything else. Well the YouGov poll showed the lead had been cut primarily by a big uptick in support from the under-65s. That implies to me that there might potentially be further gains as the manifest policies percolate through to the olds. Indeed it's likely that the Labour vote will be disproportionately concentrated in safe seats, but that sort of stuff can be hard to predict with any accuracy. EDIT: Got a look at the cross-tabs, and Labour win 'party with best policies for elderly people/pensioners' 37% to 27%. jabby fucked around with this message at 00:47 on May 22, 2017 |
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namesake posted:Nah the regions that these %s are going to mostly be in aren't going to shake the foundations of parliament. The election map will still be a sea of blue because the rural seats just aren't going to be anything else. I mean the election map is always blue because blue seats occupy more space, there's more seats in the red bits.
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TACD posted:If you want a handjob from your neighbour, vote Labour. If you're already a wanker, vote Conservative.
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