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bee posted:Corporate goons, I have a problem. I'm employed by a government agency, I've been working in the HR department for about two years. The pay, culture, and perks are good and I'm not looking to leave. Up until recently the roles I worked in were very busy so I'm used to having a lot of stuff to get through and I was fine. It sounds like you need help. “Hey boss, I’m having trouble attacking this project. Can I run my plan by you?” Or “Hey boss, I think it would help me if we had weekly check-ins on this project so I can keep you updated and I can stay accountable”. Or whatever. Nothing wrong with asking for help. Identifying that you’re struggling and knowing how to use your resources around you is a strength.
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Aug 17, 2023 02:38
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so any insight or advice offered would be appreciated!
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Vorenus posted:Has no one in the thread ever pulled a "Oh, pardon me, I seem to be in the wrong meeting. Apologies for the intrusion." and just walk out? I feel like that would be amusing. I did tell someone once they weren’t in the meeting they thought they were in. The agenda was poo poo I wanted them to stop doing. They thought the agenda was poo poo they wanted me to know about their coworkers.
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Aug 17, 2023 02:48
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knox_harrington posted:My boss-boss has suddenly started saying she's going to "double-click" on things, meaning to look into them more closely. Wtf? Both very embarrassing and also weirdly 1990s My boss^2 started to use the phrase triple-click at one point. I wonder who will realize that there are numbers larger than 3. Edit: Reminds me of the sketch "24 is the Highest Number" but I can't find a youtube link. theHUNGERian fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Aug 17, 2023 |
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Aug 17, 2023 02:57
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bee posted:
I have bad ADD and this happens to me decently often. I find what helps me a TON in a situation like this is drafting an email asking for help from a coworker or supervisor. In it, I would describe the situation and what I've tried so far - sometimes pulling on the threads of those previous attempts while explaining your position to a position of authority leads to the solution. If it doesn't, you're asking for help after demonstrating that you've put some serious thought into it.
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Aug 17, 2023 03:02
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knox_harrington posted:My boss-boss has suddenly started saying she's going to "double-click" on things, meaning to look into them more closely. Wtf? Both very embarrassing and also weirdly 1990s I'll have to "right-click, save" that phrase for my next meeting.
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Aug 17, 2023 03:18
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Sometimes when I cant get started on something I just have ChatGPT draft whatever then I can edit that and it feels like I’m being productively lazy, the best kind of productive.
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Aug 17, 2023 04:12
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teemolover42069 posted:do you have adhd or have you ever been tested for it? I was going to say, gosh this feels familiar. I've found that sometimes the best thing to do is to just start copy/pasting stuff in from vaguely related documents, just to have things THERE, then once I have something to stare at I'll say to myself "no no no this is all wrong" and write the actual content. ADHD is like having an employee who doesn't want to actually do work, and they're smart enough to figure out how to get out of any attempts you make to rope them into it through brute force or conventional means. They're also the owner's nephew, so you can't just fire them. I've found that typing a draft email, rubber ducking, and so forth actually starts to move things around, because then the ADHD employee acts like "ugh Christ FINE I'll do it just so I don't have this crap with my name on it, now let me drive" out of hubris. Also helpful: medication!
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Aug 17, 2023 06:09
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Volmarias posted:
I mean, if y’all would just give me something to do that’s actually interesting then there’d be no problem! Meds help a lot. Holy gently caress I hate writing random rear end performative docs.
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Aug 17, 2023 06:12
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bee posted:Corporate goons, I have a problem. I'm employed by a government agency, I've been working in the HR department for about two years. The pay, culture, and perks are good and I'm not looking to leave. Up until recently the roles I worked in were very busy so I'm used to having a lot of stuff to get through and I was fine. Beaten like Kirk Johnson's rectum, but I came here to post: "Have you tried inhuman amounts of Adderall? Worked for me!  "I'm not a medical doctor though so maybe don't do that. Or do. I'm not your dad. Well, as far as I'm aware. For actual content: you said you weren't sure what to do to drive outcomes. Is this something that will be delivered to users? If there is a userbase, and you can go talk to them, maybe go spitball with some of them about it and see what ideas they would try and implement if they were in charge of design. You don't have to do exactly what they suggest, but I'd be shocked if it didn't spark some sort of inspiration.
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Aug 17, 2023 06:25
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I don't know if it's a NZ thing or if it's just the cool new thing these days, but it gives me the irrits when people want to "speak to" a topic instead of speak about a topic. You speak to people, idiots!
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Aug 17, 2023 07:17
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Weatherman posted:I don't know if it's a NZ thing or if it's just the cool new thing these days, but it gives me the irrits when people want to "speak to" a topic instead of speak about a topic. You speak to people, idiots! Americans have been doing this for years, it barely moves the needle any more. Unlike "learnings" grrrrrr
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Aug 17, 2023 10:26
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Also bee it sounds like you've moved from a job with lots of structure and external motivation, to one that's less structured. If you have executive function issues (and it sounds like you do) it can be very very hard to get started in situations like that. It can be very helpful to write a very short to-do list first thing each day, comprising of the things you want/intend to get done. The new list each day is key, it reminds you of exactly the tasks and brings them into your working memory.
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Aug 17, 2023 10:31
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Welp, never been through an acquisition before but it’s official, we’re getting acquired. My job is probably safe but we’ll see how this goes
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Aug 17, 2023 13:27
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knox_harrington posted:Also bee it sounds like you've moved from a job with lots of structure and external motivation, to one that's less structured. If you have executive function issues (and it sounds like you do) it can be very very hard to get started in situations like that. Note: this may or may not work. Lists usually do not help me.
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Aug 17, 2023 13:30
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Dammit. My company sent an announcement that out of corporate generosity business is planned to shut down early ahead of the Labor Day weekend - everyone can stop working at noon on Sept 1. The rub is, I had already requested a full vacation day for that day. Do I rescind my vacation request and resubmit for a half-day to save my precious vacation hours? Or does that make me look petty?
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Aug 17, 2023 13:46
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Good-Natured Filth posted:Dammit. My company sent an announcement that out of corporate generosity business is planned to shut down early ahead of the Labor Day weekend - everyone can stop working at noon on Sept 1. The rub is, I had already requested a full vacation day for that day. Do I rescind my vacation request and resubmit for a half-day to save my precious vacation hours? Or does that make me look petty? I would and wouldn't even give it a second thought but my workplace, knock on wood, has always been respectful of our time off.
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Aug 17, 2023 14:01
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^^ I would cancel the leave request and resubmit for the half day and not feel guilty about it in the slightest. I've never thought about having ADHD because I've never had much trouble learning things and I'm not hyperactive but then I started reading up on the inattentive type. Hmm. It kinda checks out. I'll speak to my doctor about it. But in the meantime I'll try all of the suggestions! I make lists outside of work to get poo poo done that wouldn't happen otherwise, so that might be a great place to start. Thanks for your replies 
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Aug 17, 2023 14:02
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Not a Children posted:I have bad ADD and this happens to me decently often. I find what helps me a TON in a situation like this is drafting an email asking for help from a coworker or supervisor. In it, I would describe the situation and what I've tried so far - sometimes pulling on the threads of those previous attempts while explaining your position to a position of authority leads to the solution. If it doesn't, you're asking for help after demonstrating that you've put some serious thought into it. Volmarias posted:ADHD is like having an employee who doesn't want to actually do work, and they're smart enough to figure out how to get out of any attempts you make to rope them into it through brute force or conventional means. They're also the owner's nephew, so you can't just fire them. I've found that typing a draft email, rubber ducking, and so forth actually starts to move things around, because then the ADHD employee acts like "ugh Christ FINE I'll do it just so I don't have this crap with my name on it, now let me drive" out of hubris.
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Aug 17, 2023 14:36
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Drafting a detailed email or a long teams message to someone who could help me... helps me fix the problem without their help at least half the time, probably more. Crafting and structuring what I've done so far and what I think the issue is somehow helps my brain figure out what to do to fix the problem/get my rear end moving. 
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Aug 17, 2023 14:43
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bee posted:Corporate goons, I have a problem. I'm employed by a government agency, I've been working in the HR department for about two years. The pay, culture, and perks are good and I'm not looking to leave. Up until recently the roles I worked in were very busy so I'm used to having a lot of stuff to get through and I was fine. What you're feeling is quite common. It seems that you're uncomfortable by the multiple issues going on, the uncertainty, and the fear you're underperforming, and it's easier for you to shut down rather than push through those thoughts. As other people have said, writing out your work steps and breaking them down into smaller manageable chunks can help. I'll often even go for a walk to think through broader issues, then go back to my desk and write it up in a quick outline. Once you start moving on this and it's less scary, things can fall back into place. Regarding keeping things moving forward - this is standard project management type work and isn't for everybody. You need to thread the needle of staying on people's radar without getting too annoying - i.e. send an email every couple days asking "what's the status of ..." to anybody you're waiting for approvals from. FAUXTON posted:this VP double clicked on this and it's a perfect display of pure emotional intelligence I'm going to work "pure emotional intelligence" into some backhanded compliments in the future.
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Aug 17, 2023 14:56
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Corporate Megathread: Just think of the synergies.Weatherman posted:I don't know if it's a NZ thing or if it's just the cool new thing these days, but it gives me the irrits when people want to "speak to" a topic instead of speak about a topic. You speak to people, idiots! It's a centuries-old way of saying you're speaking formally or accountably on something.
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Aug 17, 2023 15:39
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Jenkl posted:I would and wouldn't even give it a second thought but my workplace, knock on wood, has always been respectful of our time off. if one of my people did not do this and i found out i would be annoyed with them!
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Aug 17, 2023 16:26
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My workplace used to let you schedule PTO an hour at a time, until people figured out that any PTO use counts as a day in the office. So to get around RTO requirements people would schedule one hour of PTO. So now we're aren't allowed to schedule PTO for less than 4 hours at a time.
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Aug 17, 2023 16:34
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Tomfoolery posted:I'm going to work "pure emotional intelligence" into some backhanded compliments in the future. I haven't been in an office since before that phrase started showing up but I like to think that I'd make a habit of announcing it while flushing a poo poo
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Aug 17, 2023 16:40
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"Definitely not a layoff over the past few weeks as 10%+ of our people have left for one reason or another over the past month. Also, another 10%+ are leaving over the next few months." Honestly, me getting fired after they hire the person above me and giving me severance is probably the ideal scenario vs. the company just folding, which it seems likely to do at this point. Granted, best option is to find another job, but that's easier said than done in this market.
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Aug 17, 2023 16:45
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knox_harrington posted:Also bee it sounds like you've moved from a job with lots of structure and external motivation, to one that's less structured. If you have executive function issues (and it sounds like you do) it can be very very hard to get started in situations like that. I have serious executive function issues and lists are one of the few things that help me. I break tasks down to a super simple level and once I get a couple basic tasks checked, things start snowballing and I work down the list pretty quickly. I am terrible with getting things done ahead of schedule. It's like I need to be under a poo poo ton of pressure and a deadline to do my best work. I wish I wasn't like this and while the ADHD meds help with a lot of it, it doesn't seem to help with the executive function stuff too much. It's 1000 times worse if it's something I'm not interested in or something I just don't really want to do. If it's interesting like figuring out a solution to a problem, I'll tackle that all day. If it's something boring like generating a report, I'll wait till the very last minute. Hotel Kpro posted:Welp, never been through an acquisition before but it’s official, we’re getting acquired. My job is probably safe but we’ll see how this goes Here is how it's gone through every acquisition I've been through (IT infrastructure worker). I've been acquired 3 times, and acquired other companies 3 times. Announce date to closing date: Nothing much happens here. Depending on industry and rules there may be restrictions with interacting with the new company until the deal is complete. Projects and spending pretty much get put on hold. Keep the lights on and handle the day to day stuff. There will be an integration team at a few different levels and departments for things like email, stuff like that. Do not be surprised if there is little to no information given out to the employees during this time. Closing date to 90 days post closing: This is going to be a lot of change, there are probably going to be a bunch of folks either laid off, or put on a transition plan. Middle management is usually the biggest target, followed by duplicate org functions like HR, and marketing. A lot of IT middle management in my experience was put on 6 to 9 month retention plans to transfer duties, knowledge, etc. One acquisition there was a 6 month retention bonus if they stuck through it. This may differ depending on how the new company wants to handle it. One acquisition we sorta spent a year just operating as we did before integration works started happening. Another wanted Day 1 everyone is NEW COMPANY and moved very quick to integrate everything. 90 days to 1 year: Lots of change happening. Teams restructured, org changes. Folks leaving, IT systems changing or consolidating (things like travel portals, expense, payroll, etc). Projects spun up to migrate/combine things. Leadership from both companies will have duked it out for power and things start to normalize. Longer term migration projects start getting planned and spun up. Best advice I can give you 1) Go in with a positive attitude. Be a team player. Whoever bought your old company wrote a big rear end check to do so. They're the new bosses. Don't be one of those folks that sticks the old company ways and brings it up all the time "well we did it this way". Adapt to the new environment. It doesn't matter how good at your job you are, if your attitude sucks they will get rid of you. (Getting a severance package is a valid option sometimes). 2)Prepare yourself for the worse, but hope for the best. Download copies things like the severance package details, stock plan details you may be a part of, benefit information, life insurance, pretty much anything you might need to reference if you get RIF'd and lose access to the corporate network. Update your resume, make a bunch of LinkedIn connections with your co-workers, and familiarize yourself with any severance policy you may have. One acquisition I was looking at 34 weeks severance if I got laid off, so that took away almost all the stress of going through the acquisition. Worst case I got to keep my job. Best case they give me 34 weeks pay to go work somewhere else. From a personal standpoint you may want to prepare yourself financially to be out of work, maybe put off any large purchases or taking on any new debt. 3) Don't take anything personal. I've watched a lot of tenured folks just take things personally or fail to adapt to the new organization. It doesn't go well. None of this is personal. Every acquisition ended up being a good thing for my career. I was able to move up and get exposed to larger companies, more complex IT systems, take on more responsibilities, and get promotions.
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Aug 17, 2023 16:46
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Holy poo poo maybe I have ADHD.
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Aug 17, 2023 17:13
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I love corporate QA, I ask a simple question get pointless non-answer.
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Aug 17, 2023 17:20
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Shrieking Muppet posted:I love corporate QA, I ask a simple question get pointless non-answer. I never understood this, why wouldn't you just be honest with the people that you employ? I'm sure there's some corporate-logic reason but boy do these pointless townhalls make me mad
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Aug 17, 2023 17:35
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Deadite posted:I never understood this, why wouldn't you just be honest with the people that you employ? I'm sure there's some corporate-logic reason but boy do these pointless townhalls make me mad Our execs have taken to near-outright-lying (saying things so deceptive with the tiniest kernel of truth that any reasonable person would just say its a lie), which then typically falls on the front line managers who were not prepared for what was just said, know nothing about it, and have no way to speak about it when their entire team descends on them mere minutes after the meeting.
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Aug 17, 2023 17:38
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Motronic posted:Our execs have taken to near-outright-lying (saying things so deceptive with the tiniest kernel of truth that any reasonable person would just say its a lie), which then typically falls on the front line managers who were not prepared for what was just said, know nothing about it, and have no way to speak about it when their entire team descends on them mere minutes after the meeting. The key to victory is the element of surprise!
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Aug 17, 2023 18:03
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Depending on the meeting, our questions get prescreened. The division leaders are better about real time questions, but the c-suite likes those things ahead of time. My SVP is solid though, probably the best executive I've ever worked under. Tells it straight, follows up in a timely fashion.
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Aug 17, 2023 18:11
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skipdogg posted:Depending on the meeting, our questions get prescreened. The division leaders are better about real time questions, but the c-suite likes those things ahead of time. My SVP is solid though, probably the best executive I've ever worked under. Tells it straight, follows up in a timely fashion. We use sli.do, so they don't get pre-screened at all. People put them in during the all hands meetings, everyone can vote on them. If they don't like the ones at the top they either run long or go back to "the questions we didn't have time to answer last month". It's so transparent, I don't know how they keep a straight face doing it.
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Aug 17, 2023 18:19
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It is the solemn duty of the burnouts and the old-timers to ask the questions everyone on one side wants to hear but nobody on the other side wants to answer.
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Aug 17, 2023 18:23
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Deadite posted:I never understood this, why wouldn't you just be honest with the people that you employ? I'm sure there's some corporate-logic reason but boy do these pointless townhalls make me mad The stupid part of this, I asked where would our next round of new hires would be working. Our labs are full at this campus and we cannot fit anymore. Instead got a baffling answer about optimizing seating in the cube farms.
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Aug 17, 2023 18:26
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Pfizer's execs used to lie out their asses to employees, and I never really understood it because it's not like they didn't tell newspapers/WARN filings/etc about layoffs and site closures. Everyone knew they were bullshitting the employees in the all-hands meetings while telling everyone else not working for them the actual truth, so we just ignored them and checked newspapers and shareholder meeting minutes. I think the biggest individual lie I remember was an exec telling us (at the Groton site) that the Sandwich UK site was safe and no layoffs were planned, when UK labor law had required they already announce the closure and it was public knowledge to the Sandwich staff that it was near-100% layoffs. Q: "What's the deal with closing the Sandwich UK site?" A: "There are no plans to close the site and no layoffs are planned." Q: "You've already told them they're laid off and put in the redundancy periods, and the local newspapers say you are closing the site, quoting you specifically at a town planning meeting. We know you're closing the site." A: "You can't believe everything you read on the internet." [paraphrased] It was a real trip, I tell ya.
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Aug 17, 2023 18:27
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Theory: It's not about pulling one over on the peons, preserving company morale, or lying to keep financial gain coming at all. It's what the executive brain believes about itself and the world that they filter through rose-colored glasses. Their reality is so buttoned up in neoliberalism that they literally cannot handle negative thoughts about themselves, their decisions, the state of the company or the economy etc. I once had an exec pat himself on the back at a company event for getting through a tough year but not having to cut any salaries when I and 3 other people had been laid off 6 months prior, I just happened to be the one who came back. Everyone started looking at me and then back to him and having a sort of "uhhhh" moment before he corrected and went "oh right except for Car Hater, glad to have you back" but still didn't mention the other 3. Brainworms. Intensely powerful brainworms.
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Aug 17, 2023 19:37
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tumblr hype man posted:Holy poo poo maybe I have ADHD. Same It works out because I have a job that's reactionary and most tasks take me 20 minutes or less. But there's a reason I never volunteer for bigger projects.
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Renegret posted:. But there's a reason I never volunteer for bigger projects. It's because I'm lazy and hate working
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