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Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





Olothreutes posted:

I'm trying to find toys that Babs might pay attention to to enrich her experience beyond just being cranky at everyone. Would that be large enough for an amazon to get down on, or are they too big for it?

For reference, Babs ignores virtually everything that isn't food. She has a few apple wood perch things in her cage that she uses but that's about it. She has a bell toy that she completely ignores and seems to ignore anything else we put in her cage, unless she actively avoids the intruder.

Maybe try some foraging toys - you can put delicious treats in them that she'll have to work to get at. I got Pookie the Grey the 2 I've linked below, and after a few weeks of trying to brute-force her way into them to get the snacks, followed by a day or two of sulking because I wouldn't help her she finally worked out how to use them and is now a pro at getting nuts and things out of them at high speed. :)


http://www.mysafebirdstore.com/product.cgi?product=15829&group=2189

http://www.mysafebirdstore.com/product.cgi?product=2000&group=1962


OOH Another good one is very simple to make at home - you just need an ordinary clean brown paper bag and some treats that she likes - show here the treats and show her that you are putting them into the paper bag, then roll and scrunch it up so that they are hidden in various folds, then give it to her (tied down on her cage maybe). I do this for Pookie all the time and she'll happily spend an hour tearing the bag up to get all the secrets out :).

Pookah fucked around with this message at 22:07 on May 20, 2014

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LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

courtesy of HUG ME FOREVER:

greypearl
Jul 26, 2007
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

After careful research and investigation, I have developed the following helpful protocol:

A Guide To Bird Toys

Step 1: Purchase several expensive treats for your bird. They should be appropriately sized for the bird, have destructible, chewable parts, and look just like what you would want if you were a bird.

Step 2: Place toys in cage.

Step 3: Place bird in cage.

Step 4: Remove bird from cage. Toys should be untouched.

Step 5: Purchase box of tampons. May substitute expensive shoes, favorite coat, or iPhone charger.

Step 6: Place object on ground.

Step 7: Bird places self on ground.

Step 8:



Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
To be fair, a tampon still in the wrapper seems like a very fun shredding toy for a bird, and as an upshot, it is sterile so you don't have to worry about them getting sick from it!

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

So, this happened just now:



Yep, that's scuttle, sitting on his food door. He got out somehow, chasing him around the house with a towel ensued. He landed on top of my fish tank light and knicked his nail in the fans that are up there (computer fans that rotate slowly). He's not favoring his other foot or anything so I think he's fine, but we're going to keep an eye on him for the next couple days.

He pooped on the floor, and bit me twice pretty bad, blood drawn etc. He's so soft though :kimchi:

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





greypearl posted:

After careful research and investigation, I have developed the following helpful protocol:

A Guide To Bird Toys

Step 1: Purchase several expensive treats for your bird. They should be appropriately sized for the bird, have destructible, chewable parts, and look just like what you would want if you were a bird.

Step 2: Place toys in cage.

Step 3: Place bird in cage.

Step 4: Remove bird from cage. Toys should be untouched.

Step 5: Purchase box of tampons. May substitute expensive shoes, favorite coat, or iPhone charger.

Step 6: Place object on ground.

Step 7: Bird places self on ground.

Step 8:





Possible step 9: Offer bird her very own example of exactly the same drat thing a week later and watch as she holds it for 1 second before dropping it listlessly to the ground.

Opera Bitch
Sep 28, 2004

Let me lull you to sleep with my sweet song!

My birds do the whole ignoring their toys thing in favor of tissues and chewing on the fleece ends of the rag blanket in our living room. I have learned just to leave their toys up regardless because a few months later they become super interested in them for whatever reason, and then tear them apart. But seriously, tissues are one thing they NEVER tire of destroying.

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005

Was it one of you that said more budgies = more quiet? Because if so, that was a dirty lie.

Good thing I love the background burbles. :kimchi:

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


I really need to get Tokyo a bird buddy. I'm trying to see if I can't talk my sister into taking me to PetSmart this weekend to liberate another budgie. Tokyo needs someone to burble with besides me, as much as I love it.

Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


Grrl Anachronism posted:

Was it one of you that said more budgies = more quiet? Because if so, that was a dirty lie.

Good thing I love the background burbles. :kimchi:

I really miss the budgie background burbles.

They're just the most pleasant bird sounds, I could listen to them non-stop.

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

Budgies definitely make the cutest parrot/parakeet background sounds. :3:

Torquemadras
Jun 3, 2013

Heck yeah, budgie chatter! It's kinda relaxing, really. Especially when they're tired from climbing all over the place and destroying things, and they just sit their, murmuring.

They have a tendency to go loud, though - or at least my two do. Whenever there's television on, they make it their holy mission to drown out any sound. That was quite a show when soccer was on once. Birds went downright crazy. Were very pleased with themselves, though.

Sekkira
Apr 11, 2008

I Don't Get It,
I Don't Get It,

Grrl Anachronism posted:

Was it one of you that said more budgies = more quiet? Because if so, that was a dirty lie.

Good thing I love the background burbles. :kimchi:

Not as loud, but more general noise.

GaiaFag
Jun 20, 2007
KING OF THE FURRIES (AUTOPILOT ON BITCH)
My mom's amazon seems to have elected me as her favorite person in the household. She greets me by yelling a greeting to herself of "Hi Crystal!" Then she asks to step up (because she wants me to hold her at all times) and then she either compliments or praises herself. If we don't close her cage, she gets out, climbs down and walks around wherever I go.

Pookah
Aug 21, 2008

🪶Caw🪶





On the topic of birds making their own entertainment after we all go to the trouble of buying expensive and educational toys for them, Pookie spent pretty much the whole afternoon playing with a penny she found on the kitchen floor - but only that penny. She was offered another penny to add to the first but apparently that was an inferior penny only fit to be thrown aside. The original penny was still enormous right fun up until bedtime when she drank her tea and was put to bed.

Official Bizness
Dec 4, 2007

wark wark wark



On the topic of birds being absolutely nucking futs, Zeke just found a little baby tick on my arm and ate it.

bird that is so gross why would you even

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Official Bizness posted:

On the topic of birds being absolutely nucking futs, Zeke just found a little baby tick on my arm and ate it.

bird that is so gross why would you even

At least your birds eat bugs, Ritz will sit still as a rock, stare at the bug and scream his head off. If he's screaming for no reason, chances are there's a bug on the ceiling.

Speaking of being a giant derp:


Apparently towels are now the best things.

Frozen Pizza Party fucked around with this message at 01:14 on May 23, 2014

WorldWarWonderful
Jul 15, 2004
Eh?
Somehow my cockatiel cut his foot today and I didn't notice it until now. I let it be but somehow he got the scab open and is streaking little bits of blood. I managed to get some corn starch on it and tidied it up a little, and I'm hoping I didn't make it worse. Stop bleeding you stupid bird :mad:

He was chirpy, active, and as destructive as always this evening so I'm hoping it didn't really affect him too much. It looks like a little nick on his foot; maybe the other tiel nipped it (which is uncharacteristic since she's not a biter and very submissive) since I found no real trail of blood inside the cage. I'm just glad I don't work tomorrow since I know I'm probably not going to be sleeping. I guess it scabbed over relatively quickly today since there's not a lot of blood in the cage and I'm hoping to scabs over quickly again. Nothing had better happen to him since he's the "good one" :smith:

Being a bird owner really isn't complete without those biannually sleepless, guilt-ridden, ulcer-inducing nights.

WorldWarWonderful fucked around with this message at 02:57 on May 23, 2014

Tasty_Crayon
Jul 29, 2006
Same story, different version.

Who was it here who had the cockatiel get its toe stuck in a toy, and instead of screaming for help, just chewed it right off?

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


That's loving terrifying.

Tokyo likes to screech, but usually she only does it when a.) the cat has farted and stunk up the whole loving house, b.) there is not enough food in her bowl (i.e. completely full to overfilling), c.) I have dubstep playing or d.) I am tickling her.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

WorldWarWonderful posted:

Somehow my cockatiel cut his foot today and I didn't notice it until now. I let it be but somehow he got the scab open and is streaking little bits of blood. I managed to get some corn starch on it and tidied it up a little, and I'm hoping I didn't make it worse. Stop bleeding you stupid bird :mad:

He was chirpy, active, and as destructive as always this evening so I'm hoping it didn't really affect him too much. It looks like a little nick on his foot; maybe the other tiel nipped it (which is uncharacteristic since she's not a biter and very submissive) since I found no real trail of blood inside the cage. I'm just glad I don't work tomorrow since I know I'm probably not going to be sleeping. I guess it scabbed over relatively quickly today since there's not a lot of blood in the cage and I'm hoping to scabs over quickly again. Nothing had better happen to him since he's the "good one" :smith:

Being a bird owner really isn't complete without those biannually sleepless, guilt-ridden, ulcer-inducing nights.

If he's acting normally he's fine. Check toys, perches, and the cage for sharp edges or burrs. Birds are designed, just like humans, to be able to survive the occasional bit of blood loss.

Karma Comedian
Feb 2, 2012

Tasty_Crayon posted:

Who was it here who had the cockatiel get its toe stuck in a toy, and instead of screaming for help, just chewed it right off?

This (kind of) happened to my Caique, JJ. She's finally stopped chewing her foot though, and it's healing nicely. She's even using it mostly regularly now!

Lord Zedd-Repulsa
Jul 21, 2007

Devour a good book.


Sociopastry posted:

I really need to get Tokyo a bird buddy. I'm trying to see if I can't talk my sister into taking me to PetSmart this weekend to liberate another budgie. Tokyo needs someone to burble with besides me, as much as I love it.

If you're still in ABQ, the two Clark's pet store locations should have budgies, but they might have to be bought in pairs even though you have one already.

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


Oh no then I'd have three adorable birds oh noooooo.

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


Pookah posted:

On the topic of birds making their own entertainment after we all go to the trouble of buying expensive and educational toys for them, Pookie spent pretty much the whole afternoon playing with a penny she found on the kitchen floor - but only that penny. She was offered another penny to add to the first but apparently that was an inferior penny only fit to be thrown aside. The original penny was still enormous right fun up until bedtime when she drank her tea and was put to bed.

Pookie :3:

I once started teaching Ohtori to pick up coins and put them in a bowl, but didnt bother getting around to finishing teaching that yet. So he goes around the table and picks up all the coins, but doesn't know what to do next. Sometimes he gets mad and throws the coins over the table edge, sometimes they are fun to play with, and sometimes he gets into a loop of pick up coin/drop coin/find different coin/pick up again until he gets bored and just drops them all over the edge.

Sociopastry posted:

Oh no then I'd have three adorable birds oh noooooo.

That does sound terrible. You should get four to make it even :v:

jadebullet
Mar 25, 2011


MY LIFE FOR YOU!
So Gunter continues to be quite the bitch. She now doesn't want to leave her cage, except if I force the issue. She will lunge/leap at us from inside the cage if we come close and the only way that I can handle her is either with gloves, or if she winds up on the floor. (she steps up so nicely on the floor.) My hands are now covered with little flaps of skin from where she has grabbed on and wouldn't let go after she has lulled me into a false sense of security. She still will sit on my shoulder, but after a while she will decide that my ear is the enemy and bite it as hard as she can.

I have no idea how to break her of this. She just seems to want to sit places and puff up, just sitting there. Simon and her still get along nicely at least, grooming each other with every chance they get.

Jack Forge
Sep 27, 2012
For anyone in North Carolina particularly in the Triangle area there is the annual Raleigh-Durham Caged Bird Society (registered nonprofit) Bird Fair in Raleigh at the State Fair Grounds in the Kerr Scott Building on May 24th from 9 am through 5 pm.

Free admission.

http://rdcbs.org/2012BirdFair/tabid/187/Default.aspx

Opera Bitch
Sep 28, 2004

Let me lull you to sleep with my sweet song!

jadebullet posted:

So Gunter continues to be quite the bitch. She now doesn't want to leave her cage, except if I force the issue. She will lunge/leap at us from inside the cage if we come close and the only way that I can handle her is either with gloves, or if she winds up on the floor. (she steps up so nicely on the floor.) My hands are now covered with little flaps of skin from where she has grabbed on and wouldn't let go after she has lulled me into a false sense of security. She still will sit on my shoulder, but after a while she will decide that my ear is the enemy and bite it as hard as she can.

I have no idea how to break her of this. She just seems to want to sit places and puff up, just sitting there. Simon and her still get along nicely at least, grooming each other with every chance they get.
Birds can hold grudges for a long time. It may be best to take it slow with her for now and if she is being so bitey she is tearing apart your fingers you might want to try stick training and having her climb onto something other than your hands when you want to take her out. If she was in that store for a long time and showed aggression towards the workers there who knows how they may have treated her. Even if nothing untoward happened to her there you may have been the first person to ever clip her wings and now she is super pissy over that. Waiting for the storm to pass might be your only option if nothing else works. If you decide to clip her again I would take her to an avian vet so she won't associate you with the clipping.

My second conure came from another home and for the first 2 months she was really bad, going after my hands to bite me. If Gunter is lunging for you the moment you go towards the cage the following advice may now work, but if she is relatively calm when you approach I can tell you what I did with Cheeky. At first I simply put my hand in her cage with no attempt to move towards her just so she got used to its presence there, talking to her soft while I did this. Eventually I extended my finger and slowly moved my hand in saying "step up." If she showed signs of aggression I took my hand out and closed the door and talked to her very sweetly. I wanted her to see that acing huffy might get rid of the hand, but not me. I repeated the process and gradually I moved my finger closer over time. I would tell her good girl if I was able to put my finger in with no aggressive reaction from her and dropped a treat in her cup. If I got close and she bit I would firmly say NO and pushed my hand towards her beak. Doing this upset her balance slightly and caused her to release my finger rather than clamping down if I had pulled away. Cheeky still got in a few good bites and I had to remind myself that I was invading this tiny little bird's comfort zone and that she needed to realize I wouldn't kill her before she would stop reacting as such. When she finally stood on my finger I kept my hand in the cage at first, praised her, and gave her treats so she associated my hand in the cage with good things. After awhile I could take her out with no issues. I think that saying step up every time I wanted her to come out helped her understand why my hand was approaching her and let her know my intentions were to take her out of the cage. She is still a little nibbly at times, but never to the point of causing pain. Dunno if my wall of text will help but I thought I'd give you my thoughts.

Agent355
Jul 26, 2011


Stupidly high resolution is awful, but this bird is not.

jadebullet
Mar 25, 2011


MY LIFE FOR YOU!
Thank you for the advice. That sounds like a very good plan of action. She really is wierd though because this morning she is absolutely in love with me and actively wanted to be removed from the cage to be with me and my fiance.

I am definitely going to try the hand thing. And yeah, she was definitely aggressive towards the store staff. While most of them loved her, the store manager "didn't want to deal with her" and grabbed an associate to get her for us, and kept telling us what a horrible, aggressive bird she was, trying to dissuade us from buying her. It is no wonder that she had been in that store for over a year with noone getting her. And no, we don't regret getting her at all.

Tasty_Crayon
Jul 29, 2006
Same story, different version.

Agent355 posted:

Stupidly high resolution is awful, but this bird is not.



There needs to be an emoticon that is :3: with hundreds of tiny :3:s pouring out of its eyeballs. Fukkin lovebirds...

Chicken in Black
May 22, 2005

So lovely

Agent355 posted:

Stupidly high resolution is awful, but this bird is not.



Must give kisses :kimchi:

Must also give warning: When kissing lovebirds beware of blowing raspberries on them, Boo tolerated this about 4 times before clamping on my lip and hanging on like a snapping turtle

Battle Pigeon
Nov 7, 2011

I am dancing potato
give me millet


It's Ohtori's birthday today! He's a whole three years old now. :3:

Also, advice for bird owners #??? : The bird will always be faster than you expect/never assume you're faster than the bird. A few days ago, 'Tori hopped on top of a cupboard door as I was closing it, and it shut on top of his foot. He was screaming and flapping about in panic/trying to stop himself hanging by the trapped foot until I grabbed him for support and opened the cupboard. Straight away he flew to his cage and tucked the foot away, so I had to pick him up, put him on his back in my hand, and pull the foot out to move/squeeze all his toes. He was okay (was terrified his foot was broken or degloved or something) but it took him until today to fully get back to normal usage.

Including when he was still trapped, and when I was checking his foot, at no point did he ever bite me. :(

greypearl
Jul 26, 2007
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Happy birthday Ohtori! I'm glad it was just a scare. Pretty sure they can tell when you're trying to help them. (Of course, wing/nail clipping does NOT count as trying to help.)

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


Also getting them untangled from the wool they decided to shred up. Tokyo loves my batting wool, to the point where she'll get herself completely entangled in it if I don't watch her constantly.

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich
I think Anaïs the cockatiel has hit new heights of :derptiel:. The other day I heard her making angry warks and when I walked in the room I found out she was yelling at her shadow.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:

I think Anaïs the cockatiel has hit new heights of :derptiel:. The other day I heard her making angry warks and when I walked in the room I found out she was yelling at her shadow.

This is entirely normal cockatiel behaviour. My sister's will flip an internal coin whether to flirt with or attack his own reflection, but this can be reset by covering up the reflective surface for 5 seconds.

FluxFaun
Apr 7, 2010


So I needed to clean out Tokyo's cage today, so I took her and her cage so she'd be safe with me and I wouldn't have to shut Momo into his kitty jail. I was rinsing out all the soap in the shower for the sake of ease, and who comes by o see WTF I'm doing than Tokyo. She just hung out in the spray and made satisfied clicking sounds until I turned off the water, then she got mad and screeched. She got even madder when I had to towel her dry and shrieked like I was murdering her whole family in front o her. Now she's sitting in her nice clean cage, all dry and warm ad poofy and chirping contentedly. Birds are weird.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007
:lol:

You don't really need to towel-dry her though unless it's pretty cold in your apartment.

But yes, birds. It's funny how different every parrot I've met is about showers/baths.

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Sekkira
Apr 11, 2008

I Don't Get It,
I Don't Get It,

It's really cold down here in Canberra and Boop still loves to take baths in cold water. I just make sure to turn the heater on when she's soaked.

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