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VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




SlyFrog posted:

Is the sale $229? I'm not saying that's a bad price, I just don't see anything showing how it was discounted.

I don't know people a few posts up are talking about $270 GTX 1060s.

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Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


Grundulum posted:

I have one: do you do work that requires a lot of memory? If not, 16GB is enough RAM for consumers in the present era.

You're not strictly wrong, but I do work with database programs that are resource hogs. My current machine has 24gb for said reason. I've never seen it more than 2/3rds full though.

Afterbirth Aftermath
Aug 29, 2002
  • What country are you in? USA - California
  • What are you using the system for? Nothing professional, family gaming computer
  • What's your budget? 1200 or so
  • If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? Probably going to get a new monitor

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING/AURA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($384.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1084.92

Getting to the point where my eyes are starting to cross. Had my current set up for about 6 years, will probably try and stretch this one just as long. Any obvious mistakes or quick switches to be had?

Eletriarnation
Apr 6, 2005

People don't appreciate the substance of things...
objects in space.


Oven Wrangler
^ Looks good to me. ^

KoB posted:

The motherboard I got only has two SATA connectors and I can make do but what are the pro/cons of a SATA expansion card? And are there any recommended ones?

The main con is you may have to jump through some extra hoops to sideload drivers if you want to boot off it and cheap controllers may limit performance of good SSDs attached to them. If you just want to add lots of HDDs, it shouldn't matter too much as long as you make sure whatever you buy has driver support on your OS.

bike appreciator
Mar 19, 2011

How am I lookin goons?

- What country are you in? USA - NY
- What are you using the system for? strictly gaming, maybe vr but unlikely
- What's your budget? ~1000 (not strict, but would be nice to stay under/around!)
- If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? Don't have a monitor yet, but will probably be modest 1080p

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Node 804 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ B&H)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Total: $924.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-27 22:31 EST-0500

I have an SSD already, large enough to be primary drive. This will be used exclusively for games, I use a Macbook for everything else. I just chose a 1070 that was on sale, I cannot for the life of me tell the difference between one 1070 and another. I'd really like to have a semi compact machine thus the micro atx but im not sure if GPU fit will be a problem? How can I tell?

This will be my 3rd build, but it's been a few years. (I sold the last one while going through a weird material purge crisis) I tend to be cheap on non-core components so please give me a heads up if anything looks dicey.

Aesculus
Mar 22, 2013

You have a K processor with a H110 motherboard and slow RAM. Upgrade that poo poo to Z170 and 3000+ RAM speed.

Why do you have a PCIe wireless card?

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

unaligned ant posted:

How am I lookin goons?

- What country are you in? USA - NY
- What are you using the system for? strictly gaming, maybe vr but unlikely
- What's your budget? ~1000 (not strict, but would be nice to stay under/around!)
- If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? Don't have a monitor yet, but will probably be modest 1080p

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Windforce OC Video Card ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Node 804 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ B&H)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Total: $924.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-27 22:31 EST-0500

I have an SSD already, large enough to be primary drive. This will be used exclusively for games, I use a Macbook for everything else. I just chose a 1070 that was on sale, I cannot for the life of me tell the difference between one 1070 and another. I'd really like to have a semi compact machine thus the micro atx but im not sure if GPU fit will be a problem? How can I tell?

This will be my 3rd build, but it's been a few years. (I sold the last one while going through a weird material purge crisis) I tend to be cheap on non-core components so please give me a heads up if anything looks dicey.

Get a Z170 board, otherwise you're wasting money on the 6600K, plus you're missing out on extra PCIe lanes which you'll come to miss having. Also, the EVGA GS PSU series isn't the G2. Other than that, consider going with Corsair LPX memory so you don't have clearance issues with your 212 EVO.

Afterbirth Aftermath
Aug 29, 2002

Eletriarnation posted:

^ Looks good to me. ^


Alright then, thanks!

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Afterbirth Aftermath posted:

Alright then, thanks!

I'll sign off on it as well.

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005

Fun Shoe
- What country are you in? USA - CT
- What are you using the system for? Purely a gaming machine. Work/surfing likely to continue on MacBook and/or iPad
- What's your budget? ~1800 for the machine + everything I'll need like monitor, keyboard, desk, etc. since this will be my first build
- If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? Monitor I'm looking at is 1080p with G-Sync

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($190.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($105.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($414.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($36.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $1,133.67

Other stuff like monitor & keyboard removed from this list. M.2 drive is the same price as the SATA equivalent right now so I prefer it. Would prefer a PCI-E M.2 drive for the peace of mind but I'm not sure I'd really notice a huge difference?

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Nut Bunnies posted:

- What country are you in? USA - CT
- What are you using the system for? Purely a gaming machine. Work/surfing likely to continue on MacBook and/or iPad
- What's your budget? ~1800 for the machine + everything I'll need like monitor, keyboard, desk, etc. since this will be my first build
- If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? Monitor I'm looking at is 1080p with G-Sync

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($190.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus H170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($105.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($414.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($36.97 @ Newegg)
Total: $1,133.67

Other stuff like monitor & keyboard removed from this list. M.2 drive is the same price as the SATA equivalent right now so I prefer it. Would prefer a PCI-E M.2 drive for the peace of mind but I'm not sure I'd really notice a huge difference?

Upgrade the motherboard to a base-level Z170 (even if you intend to not overclock), the memory to Corsair LPX 2666 or higher, and your PSU choice is notorious for being made for Grandma PCs. Step up to a Corsair RMx 550W or EVGA G2.

Overclocking might scare you, but if this is 'purely a gaming machine,' you're really missing out not going with a 6600K over a locked 6500. As for advice on the monitor, the monitor thread would be able to help you a whole lot more once you know your budget post-components: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3372494

Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


Canadaland

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($399.99 @ Memory Express)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (Owned)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VIII GENE Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($286.98 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($239.99 @ Newegg Canada) (Yes this is more than recommended, I know.)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Owned)
More Storage: Whatever and whichever HDDs are laying about, without being bloody ancient.
Hypothetical Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($399.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (Owned)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini C MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($105.98 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: SeaSonic Platinum 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (Owned)

I've checked the available case dimensions for CPU coolers, video cards and ATX-PSUs
Think I'm going with this. Any glaring holes?

E: Not super sold on the case. Might keep looking.

Teledahn fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Nov 28, 2016

CampingCarl
Apr 28, 2008




What country are you in? USA - CT
What are you using the system for? Web and Office? Gaming? Video or photo editing? Professional creative or scientific computing? Gaming
What's your budget? We usually specify for just the computer itself (plus Windows), but if you also need monitor/mouse/whatever, just say so. $750
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? How fancy do you want your graphics, from “it runs” to “Ultra preset as fast as possible”? 1920x1080 120hz

I already have HDD, case, and monitor.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($190.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.90 @ Newegg)
Total: $725.86

Alternately I could downgrade a bit and add a SSD of some kind.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($104.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $532.94

In particular I would like feedback on motherboards and if dropping to the i3 would really be noticeable for games.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

CampingCarl posted:

In particular I would like feedback on motherboards and if dropping to the i3 would really be noticeable for games.

It would be noticeable now and it would definitely be noticeable in the future. Games are *just* starting to take advantage of four cores, and having a dual core will definitely present you with a disadvantage and force you to upgrade sooner. You can get a 6600K off of Jet.com for ~$190 at the moment, so there's no reason to be getting a locked 6500 for the same price.

Your top config looks decent - just add a Hyper 212 EVO or Cyrorig H7 if you decide to take my advice with the 6600K.

Teledahn posted:

Think I'm going with this. Any glaring holes?

Other than asking you if you *really* need the 6700K, none that I can see. An extra $100 could buy you one hell of a nice case.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Nov 28, 2016

Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


BIG HEADLINE posted:

An extra $100 could buy you one hell of a nice case.

Feel free to make a suggestion? I did a bit of looking, the Fractal Design Define Mini C reviewed pretty well?

Teledahn fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Nov 28, 2016

CampingCarl
Apr 28, 2008




BIG HEADLINE posted:

It would be noticeable now and it would definitely be noticeable in the future. Games are *just* starting to take advantage of four cores, and having a dual core will definitely present you with a disadvantage and force you to upgrade sooner. You can get a 6600K off of Jet.com for ~$190 at the moment, so there's no reason to be getting a locked 6500 for the same price.

Your top config looks decent - just add a Hyper 212 EVO or Cyrorig H7 if you decide to take my advice with the 6600K.
I don't see the 6600K on jet.com for $190. Would I be able to get away with the bottom config with the 6600K?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($234.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $662.93

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost
The case is good. It gets rid of the useless 5.25" slot, is sound dampened, has a separate compartment for the power supply and hard disk. Pretty much all you'd want from a modern case.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
So dumb, stupid question here. Is this

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce...1WYAW5RSGSPDB4Q

Not the same as this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GGPzK8/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-video-card-rog-strix-gtx1070-8g-gaming

If they're the same thing why doesn't part picker not register amazon's listing?

Teledahn
May 14, 2009

What is that bear doing there?


Leal posted:

So dumb, stupid question here. Is this

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GeForce...1WYAW5RSGSPDB4Q

Not the same as this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GGPzK8/asus-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-video-card-rog-strix-gtx1070-8g-gaming

If they're the same thing why doesn't part picker not register amazon's listing?

PC part picker isn't perfect. It similarly missed links for my new motherboard on newegg.ca. The part number matches, so I'd say that's the same card.

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!
My gaming computer is currently sporting a Phenom II X4 840 (3.2 GHz) and a Radeon 5770 1GB. Pretty outdated. I'm looking to upgrade, but would like to keep it as cheap as possible, so I'm considering buying an older generation i5/mobo/ram combo used. How many generations back can I go while still giving me a significant and noticeable performance boost over the Phenom II? For example, would a Sandy Bridge i5 be fine, or should I be looking for a Haswell?

I currently play mostly Blizzard games (SC2/HotS, and just bought Overwatch) on a 1440p monitor (currently limited to 2048x1152 because I don't think my 5770 supports the newer HDMI specs that allow 1440p @ 60Hz over HDMI). Everything runs, but I'm generally limited to low/medium settings. I'd like to be able to run these games at higher settings @1440p, as well as just being able to run newish games that aren't as forgiving as Blizzard games requirements wise.

Another option I'm considering is buying a new ~$200 graphics card (e.g. RX 480) and PSU (if necessary) for my current rig and then upgrading the CPU/mobo/RAM at a later date. Would adding that sort of graphics card make a huge difference for the Blizzard games, or would the Phenom II cripple the impact of the graphics card? This option appeals to me because it gives me an immediate, noticeable upgrade, while giving me time to save up for a proper CPU upgrade rather than compromising with an i3 or used old generation i5.

I should note that this computer is used exclusively for gaming, so I don't care about performance for any other workloads.

Ror
Oct 21, 2010

😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟


OK, I've been reading this thread for advice and already have made a few changes (like switching to the i5. The teenager in me of course started out eyeing the six core i7s). I don't really have a budget, my last PC was built 10 years ago and I recently found a receipt and holy poo poo my dumb rear end spent like 2500 bucks on it. That includes absolutely everything like some slick Logitech peripherals I can reuse, but this time around I'm realizing that I can save money in a lot of places and still have a killer machine. But I do have wiggle room with my spending. But I also am really not a hardcore gamer anymore either, I'll probably play a handful of new titles a year and a whole lot of older stuff I've missed, so I probably need a lot less than I want.

What country are you in? Donald Trump's America
What are you using the system for? Main home PC, gaming is probably all that will tax it.
What's your budget? Flexible. I would love to spend only $1000 but realize I can get a lot better spending a little more. Once I'm hitting 1500-1600 I start thinking that I probably don't really need that much computer in some places.
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution? How fancy do you want your graphics, from “it runs” to “Ultra preset as fast as possible”? I need a new monitor as well, my old one's not really worth having shipped to me. Based on my PCPP perusal, going for 1440p comes with a significant price premium so I think I'm sticking with 1080. I've been used to 720p with mediumish graphics at 30fps at best for the last 5 years on a laptop, so really I'm expecting to be blown away if I can get graphics on very high settings running at 60fps. I left a monitor off my list, I think I'll go check out the monitor thread.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($163.60 @ Jet)
Memory: G.Skill TridentZ Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING Video Card ($384.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1152.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-28 03:57 EST-0500

The mini-ITX mobo seems weird but I don't think there are any fit issues and it has pretty much everything I want at a great price (there's a coupon on Jet today that brings it down to $120). It also has wi-fi, which is a dumb little convenience but I really appreciate it.

There were some better deals on RAM earlier this weekend but I think I missed them all. G.Skill also has the Ripjaws V 3200 for 90 bucks now, I'm not sure which is better.

I'm far from set on a specific graphics card, I'm pretty much set on the 1070 for the price/performance ratio but I've been looking around at different units. I'm not sure what to look at beside the manufacturer, clock speed, and how many fans it has. I've seen a few different 1070s linked in the last few pages at $384.

I felt like 550W was on the low end on PSUs but I can't imagine ever pulling enough power to push it. The deal is so killer and I heard it's a really solid unit so I'm not worried about getting the full wattage out of it.

I'm super flexible on the case too, I was going to salvage my old one but the old PC is across the country and it's too much of a hassle to try to get it. I've just been trying to keep the price down on that part because I don't need anything fancy, I'd actually prefer something tiny and more discreet (I'd really like it to be windowless) but a lot of them seem quite expensive. I'm don't really swoon when I hear the words 'cable management.' Not weighing 100 tons would be a nice bonus.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Why are you dead-set on putting an ITX board in an ATX case? An mATX board in an ATX case would make far more sense and give you more expansion opportunities.

If you're going to 'go weird' because there's a coupon: https://jet.com/product/ASUS-Sabertooth-Z170-S-LGA1151-Mthb/d925d854fcd54679ad219103bdf0c245 or https://jet.com/product/Asus-MAXIMUS-VIII-HERO-ATX-Desktop-Motherboard-with-Intel-Z170-Chipset-and-Socke/8d456536b46845bdb0ed529517e80d83

Ah: I see, the DROP25 coupon is only valid on the ITX version. Still, believe it or not, there are comparable deals on better boards at Newegg.

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Nov 28, 2016

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Splinter posted:

My gaming computer is currently sporting a Phenom II X4 840 (3.2 GHz) and a Radeon 5770 1GB. Pretty outdated. I'm looking to upgrade, but would like to keep it as cheap as possible, so I'm considering buying an older generation i5/mobo/ram combo used. How many generations back can I go while still giving me a significant and noticeable performance boost over the Phenom II? For example, would a Sandy Bridge i5 be fine, or should I be looking for a Haswell?

I currently play mostly Blizzard games (SC2/HotS, and just bought Overwatch) on a 1440p monitor (currently limited to 2048x1152 because I don't think my 5770 supports the newer HDMI specs that allow 1440p @ 60Hz over HDMI). Everything runs, but I'm generally limited to low/medium settings. I'd like to be able to run these games at higher settings @1440p, as well as just being able to run newish games that aren't as forgiving as Blizzard games requirements wise.

Another option I'm considering is buying a new ~$200 graphics card (e.g. RX 480) and PSU (if necessary) for my current rig and then upgrading the CPU/mobo/RAM at a later date. Would adding that sort of graphics card make a huge difference for the Blizzard games, or would the Phenom II cripple the impact of the graphics card? This option appeals to me because it gives me an immediate, noticeable upgrade, while giving me time to save up for a proper CPU upgrade rather than compromising with an i3 or used old generation i5.

I should note that this computer is used exclusively for gaming, so I don't care about performance for any other workloads.

What's your overall budget? The max you'd be willing to spend on this whole thing?

Because just about everything needs an upgrade, and we can help you prioritize.

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Why are you dead-set on putting an ITX board in an ATX case? An mATX board in an ATX case would make far more sense and give you more expansion opportunities.

If you're going to 'go weird' because there's a coupon: https://jet.com/product/ASUS-Sabertooth-Z170-S-LGA1151-Mthb/d925d854fcd54679ad219103bdf0c245 or https://jet.com/product/Asus-MAXIMUS-VIII-HERO-ATX-Desktop-Motherboard-with-Intel-Z170-Chipset-and-Socke/8d456536b46845bdb0ed529517e80d83

Ah: I see, the DROP25 coupon is only valid on the ITX version. Still, believe it or not, there are comparable deals on better boards at Newegg.

Adding onto this - either go down to a mITX case, or change your motherboard and case to mATX.

Ror
Oct 21, 2010

😸Everything's 🗞️ purrfect!💯🤟


BIG HEADLINE posted:

Why are you dead-set on putting an ITX board in an ATX case? An mATX board in an ATX case would make far more sense and give you more expansion opportunities.


The Iron Rose posted:

Adding onto this - either go down to a mITX case, or change your motherboard and case to mATX.

I don't really have any preference on board size, I was just looking at features and a lot of the other boards were getting closer to $200. I also tend to like Asus boards, but that's mostly just from experience. How about the MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX?

Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

Okay so I'm looking at upgrading my RAM and my graphics card. I'm looking at grabbing at 16gigs of DDR3, and I'm wondering if there's any difference between going for DDR3-1600, or DDR3-1866+.

I'm also wondering if ATI has anything competitive with the 1060 from nvidia, or if its basically nvidia or bust. Also, I saw that the 750Ti's are insanely cheap on newegg.ca, would that be a large upgrade over a radeon7850?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231615&ignorebbr=1&_ga=1.113857871.955456967.1480328935

Sticks of ram I'm looking at.

Bob NewSCART fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Nov 28, 2016

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Ror posted:

I don't really have any preference on board size, I was just looking at features and a lot of the other boards were getting closer to $200. I also tend to like Asus boards, but that's mostly just from experience. How about the MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132640

This is the board I'd be using if my computer burst into flames right now and I had to build a new one.

*knocks on wood*

Inverse square
Jan 21, 2008
Ah but you see I was an 06 lurker
Aight so which of these mobos should I go for? The PC part picker website says they all have everything I need!

Asus Z170I PRO GAMING LGA1151
MSI B150I GAMING PRO AC
MSI Z170I GAMING PRO AC
Asus B150I PRO GAMING/WIFI/AURA
ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming-ITX/ac
MSI H170I Pro AC
ASRock H110M-ITX/ac
Asus MAXIMUS VIII IMPACT
MSI H110I PRO AC
ASRock H170M-ITX/ac

Inverse square fucked around with this message at 12:36 on Nov 28, 2016

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Inverse square posted:

Aight so which of these mobos should I go for? The PC part picker website says they all have everything I need!

Asus Z170I PRO GAMING LGA1151
MSI Z170I GAMING PRO AC
ASRock Fatal1ty Z170 Gaming-ITX/ac
Asus MAXIMUS VIII IMPACT

If you have an AMEX card, you can go onto the AMEX website, select the $25 off $200 statement credit offer for Newegg, and pick this up for a song: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132638

If you don't have an AMEX, buy the other ASUS or ASRock board. I've never really trusted MSI's boards.

Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005

Fun Shoe

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Upgrade the motherboard to a base-level Z170 (even if you intend to not overclock), the memory to Corsair LPX 2666 or higher, and your PSU choice is notorious for being made for Grandma PCs. Step up to a Corsair RMx 550W or EVGA G2.

Overclocking might scare you, but if this is 'purely a gaming machine,' you're really missing out not going with a 6600K over a locked 6500. As for advice on the monitor, the monitor thread would be able to help you a whole lot more once you know your budget post-components: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3372494

OK, I'll bite on the K model. Probably won't overclock at first, but having it in the future will be nice. Any place to save money here, since you seem to know?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($86.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($414.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1,251.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-11-28 10:19 EST-0500

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Oh goddammit, parts are more expensive now on Cyber Monday than they were over the weekend.

Fantastic Foreskin
Jan 6, 2013

A golden helix streaked skyward from the Helvault. A thunderous explosion shattered the silver monolith and Avacyn emerged, free from her prison at last.

On that note, is the $145 RX 470 w/ free hitman code the best rate we're going to see on a GPU for the foreseeable future? I have some major purchases coming up, but if I could flip the code for ~$25-30 it just seems like too good a deal to pass up.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




The 1TB 850 Evo is only $220 on amazon with watchdogs 2. I can't resist it anymore.

CornHolio
May 20, 2001

Toilet Rascal
I am intentionally quoting a very old post for reasons that I will explain momentarily:

AVeryLargeRadish posted:

Here is something better to start with for a new system:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($202.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H170M Pro4S Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($85.79 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition ATX Mid Tower Case ($94.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $527.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-05-19 16:07 EDT-0400

That will be far faster overall and much more upgradeable. The case has plenty of room for drives and good cooling, very quiet too.

My original build was here [Rememeber this is from May]:


(The list is still good but the RAM is a lot more, the total amount for all of that is $567.90 now. I'd get some of the RAM that's on sale though, not the RAM that's listed.)

I haven't made a purchase yet. Just got a bonus at work, thinking about finally pulling the trigger on a new system. It doesn't have to be a gaming rig - the most gaming this machine will see will be the Sims because my wife wants a computer that can play it. I would like to watch movies and stuff on it though and I'll probably have a 43"ish TV hooked up to this. I also have a bunch of hard drives that will be hooked up to this, six in total (including the primary drive), five backing up to a sixth. I use my computer mostly as a media server.

Newegg has This Acer on sale for $599 which seems like it'd be perfect though I'd prefer a solid state drive and always prefer to build my own.

What would be a similar lower-cost but decently-functional build?

A buddy is building a new computer and it sounds like I could buy his five-year-old gaming computer for cheap - I don't know the specs yet, but it might fulfill my needs just fine. Don't know yet.

CornHolio fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Nov 28, 2016

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽

Harminoff posted:

Hello there! I haven't upgraded my pc in a long time and it's starting to show. I picked up Planet Coaster however am not getting the best performance, and a lot of newer games I have to run at medium and would like to fix that. I'd like to know if there is anything that i can upgrade on my pc to improve performance, or if I should save up for a new build?

Here is what I currently have

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/X3Bk9W

With this monitor. https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-LI2323s-23-Inch-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B00KRA5RTC

I mostly play racing games, and some first person games. Looking to keep it under $300 if possible to get this back up to speed.

Also, I am currently using stock case and cpu fans and it gets super loud sometimes. Is there an easy way to figure out which fan is causing the noise, or should I unplug them one by one until I eliminate the problem? I did spray it down with a can of air recently but that really didn't change much. Should I get some better fans as well?

Thanks for the help, I'd be lost without this thread!

Any help with this would be appreciated. Any other info that I need to provide? I am in the US

Harminoff fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Nov 28, 2016

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I want to take advantage of the $250 i7-6700 CPU + $30 off motherboard deal at Microcenter this week and modernize my PC. I will also need to buy memory and a GPU. What's the best way to get the most bang for my buck and come out around $800-900? Should I get the GTX 1070 and get a $100 Z170 motherboard or get a nicer motherboard after saving $200 from getting a GTX 1060? It sounds like I should be getting DD4 3000 memory no matter what.

Or do I just find an i5 prebuilt that's under $1000 and say gently caress building?

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Nov 28, 2016

Neo_Reloaded
Feb 27, 2004
Something from Nothing
525 GB Crucial SSD for $99.99 as a Cyber Monday deal - http://amzn.to/2gbouGk

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Radish posted:

I want to take advantage of the $250 i7-6700 CPU + $30 off motherboard deal at Microcenter this week and modernize my PC. I will also need to buy memory and a GPU. What's the best way to get the most bang for my buck and come out around $800-900? Should I get the GTX 1070 and get a $100 Z170 motherboard or get a nicer motherboard after saving $200 from getting a GTX 1060? It sounds like I should be getting DD4 3000 memory no matter what.

Remember, it's the 6700K you want over the 6700. And I think it's $260 for the K and $270 for the non-K. I always prefer the cheaper mobo if you can get a better graphics card, but you should at least tell us which resolution your monitor runs on for gaming.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Here's a dumb question: I just got my new GTX 1060 in to replace my current HD6850; someone told me this is the best way to remove old drivers, but can someone clarify whether I install the new card before running his or after? I've never done an upgrade before

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself




Radish posted:

I want to take advantage of the $250 i7-6700 CPU + $30 off motherboard deal at Microcenter this week and modernize my PC. I will also need to buy memory and a GPU. What's the best way to get the most bang for my buck and come out around $800-900? Should I get the GTX 1070 and get a $100 Z170 motherboard or get a nicer motherboard after saving $200 from getting a GTX 1060? It sounds like I should be getting DD4 3000 memory no matter what.

Or do I just find an i5 prebuilt that's under $1000 and say gently caress building?

Depends on your monitor resolution.

1080p -> 1060
Anything higher and I'd grab a 1070.

Also, microcenter has some baller prebuilts for gaming.

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Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


VulgarandStupid posted:

Remember, it's the 6700K you want over the 6700. And I think it's $260 for the K and $270 for the non-K. I always prefer the cheaper mobo if you can get a better graphics card, but you should at least tell us which resolution your monitor runs on for gaming.

VulgarandStupid posted:

Remember, it's the 6700K you want over the 6700. And I think it's $260 for the K and $270 for the non-K. I always prefer the cheaper mobo if you can get a better graphics card, but you should at least tell us which resolution your monitor runs on for gaming.

Yeah thanks I was looking at the K.

Not sure on resolution since I'm away from my home PC... What sorts of resolutions should I be thinking of in regards to the upgrade. The fact that I am asking this sort of newbie question makes me think I would be ok with the 1060 but if the 1070 is significantly better I'd like to get a nicer experience if I'm upgrading for the first time in like 7 years.

Larrymer posted:

Depends on your monitor resolution.

1080p -> 1060
Anything higher and I'd grab a 1070.

Ok thanks. This leads to my next dumb question of is the 1070 worth getting with a future monitor that can handle better resolutions in mind (I believe mine caps at 1060 now but it might support 1440).

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Nov 28, 2016

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