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shrughes posted:If you sell laptops without a VGA port you're basically guaranteeing people they can plug their laptop into any monitor. We use VGA connectors at work, plugging them into Samsung Syncmasters, because our computers have only one DVI output, and the quality is indistinguishable. Plug them in side-by-side and try to tell me that. VGA comes with the bonus of higher resolutions going wonky and not being detected.
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shrughes posted:If you sell laptops without a VGA port you're basically guaranteeing people they can plug their laptop into any monitor. We use VGA connectors at work, plugging them into Samsung Syncmasters, because our computers have only one DVI output, and the quality is indistinguishable. your first sentence doesn't make sense and your second one lets me know you probably should get an eye exam.
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Jun 8, 2012 23:40
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Keynote thread is up if you want to bookmark it now and mark your calendars. 
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Jun 8, 2012 23:45
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How hot do MBA or the MBP run now? I remember when I had my Macbook Pro (late 2007 model I think), anytime Flash was involved (watching YouTube, streaming Starcraft matches), the fans would kick in (very loudly) and the bottom would be so hot I wouldn't be able let it sit on my lap. Have they fixed the heat issue?
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Jun 9, 2012 00:15
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Flash still runs the fans up because Flash is garbage, but none of the 4 Apple laptops I've owned in the last few years have gotten too warm for my lap.
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Jun 9, 2012 00:18
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shrughes posted:If you sell laptops without a VGA port you're basically guaranteeing people they can plug their laptop into any monitor. We use VGA connectors at work, plugging them into Samsung Syncmasters, because our computers have only one DVI output, and the quality is indistinguishable. D-Subs are things computer makers stick on laptops because the lowest common denominator end user is a sack of trash. There's no reason for a D-Sub connector on a laptop in 2012 other than user ignorance and poverty.
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Jun 9, 2012 02:58
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Even at 1680x1050 I can tell the difference between VGA and DVI side-by-side, and my eyes are basically as rubbish as you can get without technically needing glasses.
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Jun 9, 2012 04:15
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Bob Morales posted:Plug them in side-by-side and try to tell me that. They were plugged in side by side. They were indistinguishable. I had browser windows and microfont terminals on both sides. You just need to have a decent cable and a half-decent DAC on the output port. I've found in every case that I've seen bad VGA-digital conversion that the problem was resolved by picking a better cable or picking newer laptop. The VGA cable that arrived with the monitor has worked perfectly with a Thinkpad W520 or T520 VGA output in the cases of a Dell ST22(1?)0, U2410M, and a new 24" 1920x1200 Samsung SyncMaster. not Bob Morales posted:D-Subs are things computer makers stick on laptops because the lowest common denominator end user is a sack of trash. There's no reason for a D-Sub connector on a laptop in 2012 other than user ignorance and poverty. Oh certainly college professors that hook their laptops up to projectors are pieces of trash. shrughes fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jun 9, 2012 |
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Jun 9, 2012 05:07
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In realistic land here I was helping my prof choose a new computer and he bemoaned the fact that most of the new laptops are using hdmi/thunderbolt. Now he just packs a $13 monoprice thunderbolt->VGA adapter in his bag. Problem solved.
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Jun 9, 2012 05:50
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When new Macs are released, how soon are they usually available on Amazon? Same day? I have a ton of Amazon Gift Credit sitting around, and now the wife needs a new laptop, so I'd love to just buy it on there ASAP if they are announced on Monday.
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Jun 9, 2012 06:13
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Astro7x posted:When new Macs are released, how soon are they usually available on Amazon? Same day?
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Jun 9, 2012 06:29
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shrughes posted:Oh certainly college professors that hook their laptops up to projectors are pieces of trash. College professors that cant figure out a sub $15 adapter and why that's the better option for both the users and the producers of laptops are mega trash, sorry.
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Jun 9, 2012 07:00
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Fun note about HDMI, there are mini and micro variants! So if Apple were to use it I wouldn't be surprised if they used one of those, or mini at first, then micro when that came about. Like how Apple had mini DVI and then micro DVI  There's also the whole pesky licensing cost of it, I think a few something like four cents, vs zero for DisplayPort (and VGA and DVI iirc). And apparently can save on circuitry internally vs the others. Otherwise now vs Thunderbolt, HDMI is just a video/audio (and limited other channel) port vs video/audio and PCIe.
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Jun 9, 2012 08:22
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Why my FW800 on my MBP always fallin' out? Seriously, I have never had an accidental disconnect on my WhiteBook and it's old fw400 cable. the FW800 falls out all the drat time from the MBP side. USB is ok. Anyone else have this problem, and find a solution? (now that I think about it, I have never been able to hook this computer up to a projector either, without the computer locking up. Maybe this side is just faulty?) kapalama fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Jun 9, 2012 |
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Jun 9, 2012 13:05
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EVERYTHING I SAY ABOUT JAPAN OR LIVING IN JAPAN IS COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT YOU BETTER BELIEVE I'LL 
ABOUT IT.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Flash still runs the fans up because Flash is garbage, but none of the 4 Apple laptops I've owned in the last few years have gotten too warm for my lap.  The best option for watching Youtube videos is to copy the url into MplayerX but it's hardly convenient.
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Stare-Out posted:The current version of Flash that comes with Chrome is broken (again); with hardware acceleration on, everything stutters like a motherfucker and with it off the videos are smooth but it cooks my CPU. Flash is the worst, makes me wish HTML5 actually worked for me but it's even worse. Are you on the release or development version? Seems to be fine for me 
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Bob Morales posted:Are you on the release or development version? Seems to be fine for me
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Jun 9, 2012 16:11
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kapalama posted:Why my FW800 on my MBP always fallin' out? FW800 is held by less force than FW400 and USB in general. The geometry of the connector should make that one a little obvious. The MBP is a little worse than PCIe cards I've used. Basically just becareful, put something near your laptop for strain relief, possibly some weight on top of the cable near your laptop. In general unless you have screw locking FW800 cables its going to be easier to tug free than USB.
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Jun 9, 2012 17:05
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:A couple weeks usually. Similar question to the one you answered: how soon do they tend to be available from Apple itself, either online or in-store? I'm not sure if I'll be getting a custom one or not; that depends on the specs.
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It varies by product and how Apple's feeling. Right now, we have no leaked shipments so don't expect anything in-store on Monday. Available online that day, probably in-store by next weekend.
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Jun 9, 2012 17:46
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:It varies by product and how Apple's feeling. Right now, we have no leaked shipments so don't expect anything in-store on Monday. Available online that day, probably in-store by next weekend. Awesome! Thanks!
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Jun 9, 2012 17:52
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hobbesmaster posted:FW800 is held by less force than FW400 and USB in general. The geometry of the connector should make that one a little obvious. The MBP is a little worse than PCIe cards I've used. So nothing wrong with my machine, it just is not going to attach solidly to FW800, then.... Thanks, but that is disappointing. Is thunderbolt similarly lame in that regard?
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Jun 9, 2012 18:07
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Nope, Thunderbolt/miniDP stays plugged in fairly well. FW800 is the worst connector I've ever used in that regard.
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Secx posted:How hot do MBA or the MBP run now? I have both a 2010 and 2011 MBP and neither get obnoxiously hot unless your CPU is pegged all the time. Now I have to decide whether to get a 2012 MBP if it has usb3 and retina. That's going to be tough to resist.
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Jun 9, 2012 18:48
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shrughes posted:Oh certainly college professors that hook their laptops up to projectors are pieces of trash. 90% of the college professors I had who carted their laptops around were using macbook pros, so they were as annoyed about the connector situation as we are. Most classrooms had a little box full of assorted dongles- and some always had the displayport one attached to the VGA cable- so it wasn't that big of a deal.
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At almost every lecture I go to if there's a brief shot of the speaker's desktop and it's a mac you are guaranteed that there'll be a thousand unorganised files scattered across it.
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Rockybar posted:At almost every lecture I go to if there's a brief shot of the speaker's desktop and it's a mac you are guaranteed that there'll be a thousand unorganised files scattered across it. I"ve never seen an organized desktop on any professor's computer. They all look like a sea of jpg and pdf files.
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Mu Zeta posted:I"ve never seen an organized desktop on any professor's computer. They all look like a sea of jpg and pdf files. The state of their computer simply reflects the state of their office. I can count on one hand the number of times my feet could directly touch the floor while attending office hours.
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Rockybar posted:At almost every lecture I go to if there's a brief shot of the speaker's desktop and it's a mac you are guaranteed that there'll be a thousand unorganised files scattered across it. You're guaranteed for the dock to be so full of icons you can barely make out which one is the browser, and neither can they.
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carry on then posted:You're guaranteed for the dock to be so full of icons you can barely make out which one is the browser, and neither can they. I had to show a customwr who has been using macs for over 5 years how to remove stuff from the dock for this exact reason. They tend to be the people who reply to all in emails and generally make me want to remove their ability to own a computer.
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Jun 9, 2012 20:07
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I, too, wish that I could stop everyone that does not optimize their computing experience from owning a computer.
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ZShakespeare posted:I, too, wish that I could stop everyone that does not optimize their computing experience from owning a computer. Its the fact something stupid like 50% of computer users cant read the loving screen, or follow the most basic instructions. These people also deserve to be sterilised so they cannot breed but some people think this is a touch harsh. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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thegasman2000 posted:Its the fact something stupid like 50% of computer users cant read the loving screen, or follow the most basic instructions. These people also deserve to be sterilised so they cannot breed but some people think this is a touch harsh. So, does this mean Hitler would be a Mac user?
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I'm certain that if I could sterilize people who don't have access to the same skill-set/level of education as I do that we would be left with a brilliant utopia of minimalist desktops and uncluttered docks. Truly a goal to strive towards.
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I've got a dozen screenshots on my desktop, about six or seven images I dragged from tumblr, and a whole set of videos because HandBrake just dumps videos to the desktop by default. I go in and clean everything out once every other week or so, or whenever it starts to bother me. I really just use it as a big transit hub for files that are going to end up somewhere else, but I can't be bothered enough to actually create a specific temporary folder for.
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You're the perfect beta tester for the new thunderbolt dongle I've devised. Just plug it in for a few hours a day and nevermind the tingling sensation in your gonads.
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ZShakespeare posted:You're the perfect beta tester for the new thunderbolt dongle I've devised. Just plug it in for a few hours a day and nevermind the tingling sensation in your gonads. I hope this "being mad on the internet" thing is working out for you. --- I wonder if there will be any case redesigns, or if the improvements will just be internals. I know the current MBP design is going on 4 years old, but they went at least 5 years with the aluminum PowerBook case.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Installed my SSD just now, don't have much to say about it yet except that I was under the impression that my boot up time would be nearly instant, but it's not. User the timer on my iPhone it took me about 50 seconds from when I pressed the power button to getting to my desktop. Take off some seconds where I had to type in my username/password and it's still ~45 seconds from power on to desktop. Not directly comparable but my 2011 13" went from 45s to login w/ stock 5400rpm drive to 12s w/ mushkin SSD. So that seems off to me. What kind of SSD did you get?
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kapalama posted:Why my FW800 on my MBP always fallin' out? FireWire 400 connector was designed by Apple and later adopted by the IEEE as part of the 1394 standard. FireWire 800 connector was designed by Molex as part of an IEEE committee and later adopted by Apple. MDP connector was designed by Apple and later adopted by VESA. Take from that what you will.
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Stare-Out posted:The current version of Flash that comes with Chrome is broken (again); with hardware acceleration on, everything stutters like a motherfucker and with it off the videos are smooth but it cooks my CPU. Flash is the worst, makes me wish HTML5 actually worked for me but it's even worse. If you go to chrome://plugins you will see that it has two versions of flash that it can use, the one inside of chrome.app and the system-wide one in /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/. It defaults to the bult-in version of flash when both plugins are enabled, but if you disable that you can use the same version that you use in other browsers.
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