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Early '70s Seattle from when Boeing laid off half its workforce: "Bad times in America" "New Poor struggle in Seattle"
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monkeytennis posted:You’d think so but MY WIFE thinks Cruise has ‘got better with age’. Win/win movie - eye candy for her in the shape of TC and plenty of plane porn for me. The best description I ever saw was part of a review of his awful Mummy remake: “This movie stars an eerie, inhuman creature immune to the ravages of age. And also a mummy.”
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Dec 17, 2019 00:27
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Falcon 9 launch in ~7 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbXgZg9JmkI
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Dec 17, 2019 01:02
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Nebakenezzer posted:Early '70s Seattle from when Boeing laid off half its workforce: Is boeing going to recover from this? It seems like as long as they have the manufacturing capacity, Airbus has better offerings in most categories. I guess they don’t have a 777, but then again, neither does Boeing right now.
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Dec 17, 2019 03:13
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Delta seems to be happy with A350s in the 777 spot
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Dec 17, 2019 03:16
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There's an elk herd that wanders through my property frequently, so if lay offs do come I guess I'll have them to help out like that Life article mentions! I bought a newer car for the first time ever in October that I may start to really regret.
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Dec 17, 2019 03:33
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Okay, this is pretty badass. Edwards AFB uploaded footage of Yeager's NF-104A flight/crash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e32CPRXEZ7s Around 4:25 it looks like he even popped the drag chute in midair to try and stop the spin and recover. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Dec 17, 2019 |
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Dec 17, 2019 06:08
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LibCrusher posted:Is boeing going to recover from this? It seems like as long as they have the manufacturing capacity, Airbus has better offerings in most categories. I guess they don’t have a 777, but then again, neither does Boeing right now. Boeing is too big to fail, so they aren't going anywhere. They've acquired enough companies on both the civilian and military side and have enough subcontractors that the US government basically has to bail them out if something catastrophic happens. Even if the MAX debacle ends up with massive legal judgements against the company (which is plausible), the worst case is that they file Ch.11, use that to gut all their expensive labor contracts, get those judgements lowered, and then continue business as usual. Plus, the existence of Boeing means Airbus is forced to keep pricing down and do some occasional innovating ("A321 NEO, less crash-y than a MAX!"), so airlines would probably prefer Boeing stays in the commercial aircraft market to avoid an Airbus monopoly.
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Dec 17, 2019 07:31
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If the MAX debacle hadn't happened, Boeing likely would've moved ahead with the 797/NMA being potentially/eventually single-pilotable. So if there's a single silver lining to take from this - it'll make people way more untrusting of putting their lives in the hands of the AI 'dog' designed to bite the pilot's hands when they try to fly the plane.
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Dec 17, 2019 07:36
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So qantas did 3 'experimental' longhaul flights while taking delivery of 787s, from london and new york to sydney non stop. The third one is in the air right now https://twitter.com/Qantas/status/1206812883968913408?s=19 But instead they have decided to ditch the new 787s for those upcoming routes and buy some airbuses instead. https://twitter.com/Qantas/status/1205252474950406144?s=19 They'll also be crewed by two second officers so the flight crew is more experienced to deal with fatigue.
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Dec 17, 2019 07:51
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"If it's Airbus, they ain't as careless."
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Dec 17, 2019 08:13
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Okay, this is pretty badass. Edwards AFB uploaded footage of Yeager's NF-104A flight/crash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e32CPRXEZ7s drat that was gearing up to be a wicked Nigel Stanford music video ala One Hundred Hunters.
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Dec 17, 2019 08:47
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BIG HEADLINE posted:"If it's Airbus, they ain't as careless." Qantas likes to mix it up with their fleet, they're not all eggs in the basket like Southwest.
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Dec 17, 2019 12:39
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yeah it's not like they're "ditching" 787s they just aren't using them on the Project Sunrise routes.
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Dec 17, 2019 13:25
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Call me when they bring back the Double Sunrise 
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Dec 17, 2019 13:36
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Based on other stuff that's come out, doesn't it feel like it's just a matter of time until some serious flaw grounds the 787 as well?
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Dec 17, 2019 14:09
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bull3964 posted:Based on other stuff that's come out, doesn't it feel like it's just a matter of time until some serious flaw grounds the 787 as well? that stuff already happened when the 787 was launched in 2011. there are a thousand of them in service and the airplane has performed well. plus the 787 was a clean sheet design and wasn't full of stupid compromises to game regulations.
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Dec 17, 2019 14:13
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Just thinking about the recent stuff that has come to light about metal shavings not being cleaned out of areas and design changes like leaving out the lightening equipment. All that on top of whistleblower complaints about the factory culture of safety feels like we could be setting up for something longer term.
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Dec 17, 2019 14:22
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bull3964 posted:Just thinking about the recent stuff that has come to light about metal shavings not being cleaned out of areas and design changes like leaving out the lightening equipment. All that on top of whistleblower complaints about the factory culture of safety feels like we could be setting up for something longer term. A really fun thing to do in their factory is walk around pretending like you know what you're doing and see how long you can make it exploring until someone asks you why you're there
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Dec 17, 2019 14:32
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If Ilyushin somehow got access to efficient western engines, how competitive would they be? I’m mainly curious how far ahead Boeing/Airbus is from the rest of the pack and if there could be a realistic third competitor.
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Dec 17, 2019 15:36
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david_a posted:If Ilyushin somehow got access to efficient western engines, how competitive would they be? I’m mainly curious how far ahead Boeing/Airbus is from the rest of the pack and if there could be a realistic third competitor. Comac does and they’ve had a lot of trouble getting aircraft to market. Now that the first articles are flying we’ll have to see what the C919’s safety record will be and if they can actually do their first deliveries in 2021. Also it’s worth pointing out that Embraer and Bombardier couldn’t get up out of the regional market and make the smallest mainline aircraft without being bailed out by Boeing and Airbus respectively.
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Dec 17, 2019 15:45
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hobbesmaster posted:Comac does and they’ve had a lot of trouble getting aircraft to market. Now that the first articles are flying we’ll have to see what the C919’s safety record will be and if they can actually do their first deliveries in 2021. If I’m guessing, I suppose the lack of a good parts supply chain and training costs for a weird different airplane (both pilots and mechanics) would be the biggest hurdles?
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Dec 17, 2019 17:12
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david_a posted:If I’m guessing, I suppose the lack of a good parts supply chain and training costs for a weird different airplane (both pilots and mechanics) would be the biggest hurdles? The supply chain seems to have been one of the biggest things holding back the Sukhoi Superjet outside Russia. Not sure how they plan to handle it with future designs.
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Dec 17, 2019 17:16
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david_a posted:If Ilyushin somehow got access to efficient western engines, how competitive would they be? I’m mainly curious how far ahead Boeing/Airbus is from the rest of the pack and if there could be a realistic third competitor. There’s probably a bunch of nation state supply chain fuckery paranoia that will keep them out of a lot of NATO countries for a while.
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Dec 17, 2019 17:34
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hobbesmaster posted:
Bombardier painted themselves into a corner by getting complacent with the CRJ, and then making the mistake of creating a follow-on aircraft that had both a new airframe and new engines. When the C Series ran into delays, the CRJ line was no longer competitive and wasn't selling well, so that combined with the threat of tariffs on the C Series to make a sale of the division to Airbus attractive. Embraer was in good financial shape, but Boeing bought their commercial division entirely because Airbus now owned the C Series, and Boeing realized they had no products that could compete in the "smaller than 737/A320" market.
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Dec 17, 2019 18:28
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azflyboy posted:Bombardier painted themselves into a corner by getting complacent with the CRJ, and then making the mistake of creating a follow-on aircraft that had both a new airframe and new engines. I can’t wait for the E190-8 MAX that seats as many pax as a 757-200.
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Dec 17, 2019 18:34
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i think the E2-195 is already basically the limit
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Dec 17, 2019 19:01
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 e: the Boeing 737: gently caress you Saskatchewan
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Dec 17, 2019 19:01
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i think the E2-195 is already basically the limit You'd think so, but Boeing came up with the 737 10 Max
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Dec 17, 2019 19:09
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Dec 17, 2019 19:23
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The Embraer is only 4-across, so you have to stretch it way longer to reach the same capacity you would have with a 6-across 737, and eventually that stops being worth it.
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Dec 17, 2019 19:24
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hobbesmaster posted:You'd think so, but Boeing came up with the 737 10 Max You can’t bring up the Max 10 without posting the video of the gear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4IGl4OizM4 StandardVC10 posted:The Embraer is only 4-across, so you have to stretch it way longer to reach the same capacity you would have with a 6-across 737, and eventually that stops being worth it. Look at Mr. Serious over here
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Dec 17, 2019 19:37
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StandardVC10 posted:The Embraer is only 4-across, so you have to stretch it way longer to reach the same capacity you would have with a 6-across 737, and eventually that stops being worth it. Boeing, uh, finds a way
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Dec 17, 2019 19:42
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If Bombardier can make the CRJ 1000, Boeing can make an E190 MAX 10 MAKE IT LONGER  128ft long, only 27ft shorter than a 757-200 e.pilot fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Dec 17, 2019 |
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Dec 17, 2019 19:56
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Nebakenezzer posted:
After Canadian deregulation in the 80s, the 737s were pulled from most of those armpit routes.
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Dec 17, 2019 20:03
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Dec 17, 2019 20:22
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It’s a cigarette with wings.
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Dec 17, 2019 20:32
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slidebite posted:My very first flight was as something like a 5 year old on a CP Air 737-200 from Grande Prairie to Edmonton. I should say the image comes to us from 1971 Also I'm extremely puzzled why Saskatchewan is shunned
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Dec 17, 2019 20:40
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i think the E2-195 is already basically the limit add an extra pair of wings and make it 85m long
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 Look at this plane, it looks downright normally proportioned. Throw on some overwing exits and go full CRJ-1000/757-300!
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