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It seems like every set has a Nissa walker
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Nissa. Her art was released. 3 Nissas in standard at once.... So Ad Nauseam stuff is really spiking. I think people want to play Gideon of the Trials in it.
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Apr 6, 2017 15:38
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Along with three Lilis and Gideons.Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:You can only improvise up to the spell's generic cost, but you can over-crew a vehicle, or crew it multiple times. Edit: Actually there's four Nissas in standard, since the PW deck one counts too. Siivola fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Apr 6, 2017 |
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Apr 6, 2017 15:40
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Siivola posted:Along with three Lilis and Gideons. There aren't 3 Gideons....
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Apr 6, 2017 15:41
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mcmagic posted:3 Nissas in standard at once.... To be pedantic:5 Nissas. e:4, ffs, Nissa didn't get a deck this time. Rinkles fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Apr 6, 2017 |
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Apr 6, 2017 15:41
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Rinkles posted:To be pedantic:5 Nissas. OK Well if you count the Dual Deck ones that no one will ever play in standard...
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Apr 6, 2017 15:43
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Curator of Mysteries 2UU Flying 4/4 Whenever you cycle or discard scry 1 Cycling - U Seems nuts in limited
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Apr 6, 2017 15:43
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mcmagic posted:There aren't 3 Gideons.... (And the worst Gideon ever printed is still a 5-mana 5/5.  )
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Apr 6, 2017 15:43
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The Naga are back.
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Apr 6, 2017 15:45
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It seems too soon for another Nissa to me. --------     Intro decks:        
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Apr 6, 2017 15:47
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I'm actually not fine with the Gatewatch if they're gonna take up so many planeswalker slots in each block. but don't you care about these rich characters and their struggles
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Apr 6, 2017 15:48
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mandatory lesbian posted:but don't you care about these rich characters and their struggles Maybe if I got to see a mummy planeswalker instead of Nissa, Again or Gideon, Still Becomes A Creature.
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Apr 6, 2017 15:50
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http://mythicspoiler.com/akh/cards/gloryboundinitiate.jpg http://mythicspoiler.com/soi/cards/alwayswatching.jpg Spicy  Lol Speculators Sickening fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Apr 6, 2017 |
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Apr 6, 2017 15:51
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Sickening posted:http://mythicspoiler.com/akh/cards/gloryboundinitiate.jpg Humans might be back.
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Apr 6, 2017 15:53
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Companion of the Trials looks dangerously close to playable with exert for an intro deck card
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Apr 6, 2017 15:54
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TheKingofSprings posted:Companion of the Trials looks dangerously close to playable with exert for an intro deck card It's win-more because you have to control Gideon to use it.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:01
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Maybe if I got to see a mummy planeswalker instead of Nissa, Again or Gideon, Still Becomes A Creature. it's just gideon and nissa, gideon and nissa forever, OFS, A hundred years Nissa and Gideon, forever and ever
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Apr 6, 2017 16:02
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mandatory lesbian posted:it's just gideon and nissa, gideon and nissa forever, OFS, A hundred years Nissa and Gideon, forever and ever I'm so, so tired of turning my lands and my Gideons into creatures. 
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Apr 6, 2017 16:03
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Apr 6, 2017 16:04
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Ohh, a new good human. Maybe I can rebuild human aggro.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:05
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That is VERY good. Welcome back GB Delirium to the format!
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Apr 6, 2017 16:05
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mandatory lesbian posted:it's just gideon and nissa, gideon and nissa forever, OFS, A hundred years Nissa and Gideon, forever and ever I would like to see them comment on this, and if they still consider it the right approach.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:06
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drat, this is super strong
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Apr 6, 2017 16:07
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mcmagic posted:That is VERY good.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:07
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Seems really good. Spewing out 2/2s is, as we've seen, a Pretty Good way for a planeswalker to protect itself, and repeatable reanimation is just nutty. Especially if you're reanimating gearhulks or other value creatures. Kind of annoying memory issues when you combine the reanimation and the ultimate though.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:09
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A very common line is going to be to just raise dead a milled Ishkanah or a Noxious Gearhulk and go from there.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:09
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Rinkles posted:How very boring. mark rosewater lol
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Apr 6, 2017 16:13
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Lili seems only okay to me but it's not a position I hold strongly because I'm not sure how to value the Rise from the Grave ability. She reminds me kind of KLD Nissa, though.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:14
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Ugh, she's merely great instead of pushing the boundaries of Planeswalker power level. Very disappointing for a Liliana!
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Apr 6, 2017 16:14
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drat, I think this set kills my goofy Energy TurboFog deck. There are so many things I can't protect myself from anymore.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:16
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Elyv posted:Lili doesn't seems only okay to me but it's not a position I hold strongly because I'm not sure how to value the Rise from the Grave ability. She reminds me kind of KLD Nissa, though. The tempo of reanimation (especially with value) vs regrowth will be crucial I think. Of course, she's not as good a PW slayer as Nissa.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:18
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Elyv posted:Lili seems only okay to me but it's not a position I hold strongly because I'm not sure how to value the Rise from the Grave ability. She reminds me kind of KLD Nissa, though. She's not just insane raw power level but there are tools to build a deck around her. The question is, does the Cat combo still push that kind of deck out of the format. https://twitter.com/Boss_MTG/status/850002214286487552
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Apr 6, 2017 16:18
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Elyv posted:Lili seems only okay to me but it's not a position I hold strongly because I'm not sure how to value the Rise from the Grave ability. She reminds me kind of KLD Nissa, though. I think she will have an upper limit to how good she can be for however long Unlicensed Disintegration is a card in this format
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Apr 6, 2017 16:19
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mcmagic posted:She's not just insane raw power level but there are tools to build a deck around her. The question is, does the Cat combo still push that kind of deck out of the format. If cat combo survives after the next B&R update I will be surprised.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:20
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Sickening posted:If cat combo survives after the next B&R update I will be surprised. The power level of this standard is really being jacked up in this set though. There might be enough to balance it but obviously it's too early to tell.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:21
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mcmagic posted:The power level of this standard is really being jacked up in this set though. There might be enough to balance it but obviously it's too early to tell. We've seen like an eighth of the set, it seems way too early to draw any conclusions about that
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Apr 6, 2017 16:22
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Elyv posted:Lili seems only okay to me but it's not a position I hold strongly because I'm not sure how to value the Rise from the Grave ability. She reminds me kind of KLD Nissa, though. You +1 her and you have a 6-loyalty PW behind a blocker. From there you can -3 to have a glob of value fly out of your mouth or +1 her again to have another blocker with the implicit threat that she will reset the board if you don't like it, but in a way that keeps you with some position. Or just +1 her until you deck out then threaten to poop at the judge when you're told to stop playing, due to your rampaging lust for +1ing her.
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Apr 6, 2017 16:23
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Sickening posted:http://mythicspoiler.com/akh/cards/gloryboundinitiate.jpg White Weenie gonna be a deck again
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Apr 6, 2017 16:26
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The "good" thing about all these versions of the gatewatch in standard is that they compete for space in the same decks. Can't just jam all the black PWs without running into issues.
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And at 5 mana she is great without being broken. Going to have to try and find room for her in the Abzan List.
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