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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
youre not fuckin neo, faced with that situation you should just run either way

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Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

if you pulled a gun on the mob of 30 proud boys charging you the cops escorting them would just shoot you in the head

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Al! posted:

have fun getting stomped to death before you can get the safety off

Joke’s on you, my LCP II doesn’t have a safety.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
if i shoot myself in the balls itll intimidate the nazi mob, they will scatter in fear

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

“There are gangs of Nazis roaming the streets beating people in multiple cities. Let me explain why only they should be armed and none of us can be trusted.”

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
oh god you really do think your superior gunkata will somehow prevail against those numbers huh

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

chitoryu12 posted:

Yeah have fun pepper spraying the Nazi beatdown squad and then getting it smeared on your face when they just tackle you.

Are you going to hose down a gang of proud boys with your AR-15?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

Posters ITT are one more proud boy beatdown away from being that guy who brandishes a rifle when he goes on soda runs to the wal-mart.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I'm not exactly running to chitoryu's defense here but if you think that pulling a gun on somebody requires gunkata then it sounds like you've never handled a gun before

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
In fact it happens every day and only a handful of people, in the world, are trained in gunkata

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Posters ITT are one more proud boy beatdown away from being that guy who brandishes a rifle when he goes on soda runs to the wal-mart.

I like your new av
Anyways thing are real bad

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

Phi230 posted:

I'm not exactly running to chitoryu's defense here but if you think that pulling a gun on somebody requires gunkata then it sounds like you've never handled a gun before

I've mastered the speed of the draw pull, which I have adapted from the drawing slash of katana techniques.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



weep for me, thread, for tho I am trained in panzer kunst, I am but a mere flesh and blood man

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
look I've watched surviving edged weapons, I think i can survive edged weapons

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Al! posted:

oh god you really do think your superior gunkata will somehow prevail against those numbers huh

So you’re fine begging to just not get stomped too hard.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Phi230 posted:

I'm not exactly running to chitoryu's defense here but if you think that pulling a gun on somebody requires gunkata then it sounds like you've never handled a gun before

yes, that's exactly what i meant lol

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

chitoryu12 posted:

So you’re fine begging to just not get stomped too hard.

You say things like "only they should be armed and never us" but in this case they weren't "armed" in the sense that they had weapons. They just ganged up on some isolated people and beat the poo poo out of them.

Now, what do you think the weapon laws are like in Manhattan?

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

chitoryu12 posted:

So you’re fine begging to just not get stomped too hard.

no im fine with fuckin running instead of being murdered by a mob who now feels justified in killing me after immediately disarming me even if i manage to wing one

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

chitoryu12 posted:

So you’re fine begging to just not get stomped too hard.

i think you're missing the 30+cops vs. 1 part of this scenario

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



the best weapon in this scenario is a comrade in an apartment above who would drop a couch onto the group

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

shooting nazis and cops is obviously cool but you should wait for the revolution to start first

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
also if you somehow survived you'd be the one going to prison for 20-life

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Epic High Five posted:

the best weapon in this scenario is a comrade in an apartment above who would drop a couch onto the group

As always, solidarity is the answer.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

The only real defense against a fascist street gang is to form your own street gang and try to overwhelm & gently caress them up any time they show their face. Antifa isn't good enough because it's too inherently reactive. You need people to start actively hanging out to bash Proud Boys, which is a hard sell because the thing about PB is that there isn't that much to begin with - and their actions are too sporadic so far to justify that kind of vigilance.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
antifa should have been there tbh

LordSaturn
Aug 12, 2007

sadly unfunny

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Are you going to hose down a gang of proud boys with your AR-15?

is this supposed to sound bad?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

LordSaturn posted:

is this supposed to sound bad?

As good as it sounds to recreate the machinegun scene from Death Wish 3 on these milk drinkers, it's not exactly realistic.

LordSaturn
Aug 12, 2007

sadly unfunny

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

As good as it sounds to recreate the machinegun scene from Death Wish 3 on these milk drinkers, it's not exactly realistic.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The only real defense against a fascist street gang is to form your own street gang and try to overwhelm & gently caress them up any time they show their face. Antifa isn't good enough because it's too inherently reactive. You need people to start actively hanging out to bash Proud Boys, which is a hard sell because the thing about PB is that there isn't that much to begin with - and their actions are too sporadic so far to justify that kind of vigilance.

I'm starting to remember - you're one of those posters everyone says to ignore, aren't you

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

Farm Frenzy posted:

shooting nazis and cops is obviously cool but you should wait for the revolution to start first

Yeah I've thought about it and it really doesn't become realistic/productive until its part of a popular movement.

But we should be thinking about it. They're thinking about killing us constantly and we should at least be prepared for that eventuality. At the rate we're going it's not like we're gonna be allowed to vote these people out. More armed socialists = cool and good

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Are you going to hose down a gang of proud boys with your AR-15?

I'm gonna do it with an ak and Hanzo steel btcih

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
why not a dildo bat from saints row while youre at it

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose
killing fash is good but only do it if you can get away with it

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The only real defense against a fascist street gang is to form your own street gang and try to overwhelm & gently caress them up any time they show their face. Antifa isn't good enough because it's too inherently reactive. You need people to start actively hanging out to bash Proud Boys, which is a hard sell because the thing about PB is that there isn't that much to begin with - and their actions are too sporadic so far to justify that kind of vigilance.

There are more than enough hate groups (including the police themselves) that you don't need to specifically be anti-PB. The bigger issue is that most leftists seem to believe legalism will protect them. Plus, there are more than a few of them who just want to avoid any sort of violence, no matter the cost.

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018


wtf do you need guns and pepper spray for, just get one of those magical talismans from an african militia that turns your enemies' bullets into water and you're good to go

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

chitoryu12 posted:

So you’re fine begging to just not get stomped too hard.

escalating a situation like that with a gun means you're about to get shot by the NYPD escort those dudes had, but the NYPD would 100% shoot like 15 more Proud Boys in their enthusiasm to fire their weapons so you do have a point.

a more practical point is that getting jumped like that doesn't really give you much time to react and defend yourself, let alone draw and aim. if you had a gun in that situation the likely result is you dropping it and one of the proud boys picking it up

Martin Random
Jul 18, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
for every post in this thread about gun kata I will think for a further solid 5 minutes on how to catch this gun toting nazi in santa barbara who assaulted our fellowgoon

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
Would this count as Gun Kata? It is an application of martial arts concepts into a gun fight, but it lacks any identifiable techniques like in Equilibrium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wYCh5nxyCI

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 30 days!)

LordSaturn posted:

I'm starting to remember - you're one of those posters everyone says to ignore, aren't you

OK, go walking the streets of Manhattan with a rifle on your shoulder and see what happens.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

MizPiz posted:

Would this count as Gun Kata? It is an application of martial arts concepts into a gun fight, but it lacks any identifiable techniques like in Equilibrium.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wYCh5nxyCI

i think hard boiled was the movie that invented it basically

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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

OK, go walking the streets of Manhattan with a rifle on your shoulder and see what happens.

theres a 10 year mandatory minimum for that in nyc i believe

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