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I spent too much of my life in the early 90s wasting time on lovely games like young merlin or 7th saga just trying to get that RPG fix. I would have killed for DQ v or VI. I also didn't see a physical copy of III or IV until many years later so they weren't options.
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so who else here has a 30-40 hour save file of dq7 3ds you got burned out on that you should really get back to making you reluctant to buy dq8
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Brother Entropy posted:so who else here has a 30-40 hour save file of dq7 3ds you got burned out on that you should really get back to making you reluctant to buy dq8 This guy. Hit my first roadblock with Cumulus Vex due to my pirate main character not being a great matchup alongside some other poorly timed vocation changes. It makes you miss Maribel a lot too. It's a matter of a little bit of grinding but it was enough to stall me out. Excited for VIII regardless though.
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Brother Entropy posted:so who else here has a 30-40 hour save file of dq7 3ds you got burned out on that you should really get back to making you reluctant to buy dq8 I have this problem too, but admittedly I really want to try playing with the new party members in VIII so I don't think I can resist the call.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:The thing that gets me about DQ in the west is they somehow managed to completely squander the opportunity to piggyback off the DBZ mega-hype from the mid/late-90s through to the early 00s - they released almost nothing during the period when DBZ and Akira Toriyama was at peak penetration and most of the games they released during that period had awful CG box art instead of Toriyama's illustrations. (DQ3 GBC did have Toriyama art, thanks to fan demand.) Enix USA's president back then thought Toriyama art to be too kiddy, and insisted on new artwork.
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Jan 3, 2017 17:01
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Bongo Bill posted:8: Definitely the best one in the series. My personal favorite. Wait for the 3DS version, or play the PS2 version. Don't play the mobile version, it's a bad port. You keep posting this over and over, but the mobile port is really fine. I don't know if you played it on a nokia brick phone or what, but I've been playing through it the last few weeks and it's completely fine. I haven't seen any slowdown or anything.
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Jan 3, 2017 17:05
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Brother Entropy posted:so who else here has a 30-40 hour save file of dq7 3ds you got burned out on that you should really get back to making you reluctant to buy dq8 8 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less of a slog
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Jan 3, 2017 17:11
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It's bad because it's on a phone
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Brother Entropy posted:so who else here has a 30-40 hour save file of dq7 3ds you got burned out on that you should really get back to making you reluctant to buy dq8 I got up to Buccanam and said gently caress it when the game told me to look for some random priest with no hints whatsoever. I actually want DQ8 a hell of a lot more than 7 though.
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Jan 3, 2017 17:14
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Zaggitz posted:8 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay less of a slog oh yeah i played some of 8 when it originally came out so i know i'd enjoy the remake more, i meant more reluctant in a 'i already spent money on a dq game a few months ago i left unfinished'
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Jan 3, 2017 17:15
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I beat my copy of 7 for 3DS because I'm a good boy.
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elf help book posted:I beat my copy of 7 for 3DS because I'm a good boy. I beat the post game bosses which stopped being fun at a certain point but since I had already put 85 hours into the game what was another 5 to just clean it up
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Decus posted:Even after changing the UI, making it even more like DBZ with super high tension animations, giving it an orchestrated soundtrack and adding voice acting DQVIII sold less in NA than a DBZ fighting game released the same year. And it even came with an exclusive demo for the next, highly anticipated FF game. OR they could actually advertise it half-decently, like Nintendo did for DQIX. DQIX's multiplayer system was amazing and it needs to be in DQXI as well.
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And as much as I love DQVIII I just played through it a year ago and it's a pretty massive game to return to that quickly. That said the next time I want to revisit it it will absolutely be on the 3DS because the improvements seem cool and because my PS2 is in storage
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Ghostnuke posted:You keep posting this over and over, but the mobile port is really fine. I don't know if you played it on a nokia brick phone or what, but I've been playing through it the last few weeks and it's completely fine. I haven't seen any slowdown or anything. I've heard reports of bad framerates everywhere regardless of device power, but if it's not happening for you, then that's good.
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i beat the main game but i don't give a gently caress about the postgame. it isn't like dq games ever have good postgames anyway.
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I'm not doing the post game for 7 but I'll do it for 8 because i like the story changes it makes.
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Jan 3, 2017 18:42
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Turtlicious posted:I have a beefy PC and a Nintendo 3DS if I've never played Dragon Quest, which one should I play? 5. It's short at about 30 hours (DQ7 and DQ8 took me over 100 hours) yet still one of the most highly praised. It has the most fun and charming story and characters, and every other aspect is typical solid DQ. DQ8 was suggested to you but that would be better played on a PS2. The DS version lacks the orchestral soundtrack and has framerate issues. 8's story is also a lot more generic and less interesting than 5's where you see yourself start off a child and then grow up to be married, have a family, and eventually fight alongside your wife and kids. You get to pick your wife, which changes the dialogue for the second half. That's more amusing than anything than happens in 8. (Mild spoilers for 5 that are just basic story summary)
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Honestly I'm a huge fan of 1, 3, Monsters, Builders, and mother loving Rocket Slime.
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rocket slime is amazing but it isn't really suitable as an introduction to the franchise.
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some guy on the bus posted:. While DQ5 may have a better overall story, I think DQ8 has the strongest written party of any Dragon Quest game. In most DQ games once a character joins the party they mostly become part of the Party Blob, being addressed as part of the whole. Party Chat helps fix this, admittedly, but in DQ8 your party members are constantly putting in their own input. Plus it feels more natural when suddenly some part of their personal history comes up in the plot rather then having them suddenly speak after hours of cutscene silence.
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Jan 3, 2017 22:08
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hey how much game is left after i beat orgodemir the first time? This game is massively overstaying it's welcome and if I can't beat it in one sitting I'm putting it down for the foreseeable future until I have less games to play.
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I'd say that on the flip-side party chat can be kind of lacking in DQ8 compared to the older titles. It probably still only just balances out. The voice acting is probably a large part of why their unprompted input stands out more though.
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A good game for people new to Dragon Quest would be to find an English patch for DQM: Caravan Hearts for the GBA.
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Zaggitz posted:hey how much game is left after i beat orgodemir the first time? This game is massively overstaying it's welcome and if I can't beat it in one sitting I'm putting it down for the foreseeable future until I have less games to play. You're basically in the endgame stretch after that, although it's DQ7 so that's still at least 5-6 hours.
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Dragon Quest 5 is probably the single game in the series that's benefitted the most from remaking it. The SNES game was barely an upgrade over 4, long enough after it that that just wasn't acceptable at all. It would not have gone over well, I don't think. 6 would have, and a timely translation of 6, I think, could have done a lot of good for the series in North America.
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Douglas Dinsdale posted:Enix USA's president back then thought Toriyama art to be too kiddy, and insisted on new artwork. I can see why that might be a concern but it does feel like a poor move in hindsight - then again, it may have made absolutely no difference, who knows. On the subject: NHK recently ran a special on Dragon Quest that included a written message from Toriyama (he doesn't like being on camera, apparently), it's good for a laugh: quote:Hello, this is Akira Toriyama.
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neongrey posted:Dragon Quest 5 is probably the single game in the series that's benefitted the most from remaking it. The SNES game was barely an upgrade over 4, long enough after it that that just wasn't acceptable at all. It would not have gone over well, I don't think. 6 would have, and a timely translation of 6, I think, could have done a lot of good for the series in North America. They really bungled 4 the worst, as it's head and shoulders the most easy to play of the NES games and the framing device was exactly the kind of ambitious narrative poo poo that eventually helped draw people in to games like FF6 and Chrono Trigger. In this alternate universe, however, there's still the fact that original PS1 DQ7 was a hard game to love even for fans of the series.
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PaletteSwappedNinja posted:I can see why that might be a concern but it does feel like a poor move in hindsight - then again, it may have made absolutely no difference, who knows. Toriyama's frankness and chillness will never not be great.
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I'm glad i finally got t play DQ7, but holy moly am I never ging to play dq7 ever again after i beat it
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Zaggitz posted:I'm glad i finally got t play DQ7, but holy moly am I never ging to play dq7 ever again after i beat it Yeah. I put it down at the island after getting the replacement for Maribel and haven't got back yet
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Bongo Bill posted:I've heard reports of bad framerates everywhere regardless of device power, but if it's not happening for you, then that's good. The real problem I had was being stuck with portrait mode. All of Square-Enix's mobile ports force you into portrait mode, but if there was ever a game that begged for landscape it's DQVIII.
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Choppy frames is a pretty common complaint for the mobile port. I mean they game is playable but saying they're "fine" is stretching it a bit, imo. It was especially jarring during combat sequences on a Note 4, based on my experience anyways. But yeah the portrait mode was way more loving annoying than the framerate, though I suspect the frames would do even worse in that scenario.
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"Toriyama" posted:“What the heck is a role-playing game?”, I thought. My exact thoughts when I first got the game and was looking at the included materials (Nintendo Power version). It was new and completely alien, but I tried it and was utterly hooked by the character progression aspect. Zaggitz posted:I'm glad i finally got t play DQ7, but holy moly am I never ging to play dq7 ever again after i beat it I think I said this 15 years ago with the PS1 version, but that's enough time to consider playing it again, if I had a 3DS.
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Bongo Bill posted:I've heard reports of bad framerates everywhere regardless of device power, but if it's not happening for you, then that's good. Isnt it like locked to 20fps to preserve battery, and there is no option to change it
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I've seen people online actively repelled from Dragon Quest games because of the Toriyama art. It's always some "lol why he is Goku" kind of thing. My response to this is generally "What, you didn't like Chrono Trigger?"
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Light Gun Man posted:I've seen people online actively repelled from Dragon Quest games because of the Toriyama art. It's always some "lol why he is Goku" kind of thing. My response to this is generally "What, you didn't like Chrono Trigger?" yeah that always bugs me a lil because toriyama's monster art is goddamn great and really contributes to the whimsical adventurous tone of dragon quest who cares if his protagonist art is rote, that's obviously not what the game is focused on at all
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Zaggitz posted:I'm glad i finally got t play DQ7, but holy moly am I never ging to play dq7 ever again after i beat it As a kid, I used to think "man I wish there was an RPG that was like 100+ hours long it'd be rad, like playing a double length Final Fantasy or something." DQ7 was the answer for people like me, and showed that no, you really don't want an RPG that can take 100 hours to complete. Even Xenoblade Chronicles was something razy like 70 hours for me to beat and I didn't even bother with most of the optional stuff like 99% of sidequests, Colony 5, unlocking extra combat style(?) trees for characters...etc. e: I've considered getting DQ7r on my 3DS but I just can't get myself to spent another 80-100 or so hours on that game again.
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To be fair I like long jrpgs. Like the Trails games are my absolute fave series right now, but those games keep you engaged by always having some new insane thing in the story happen and having really likable casts of characters who's journey's you want to see through to their conclusion. It feels like DQ7 is actively throwing a new impediment in your way whenever you think actual progress is being made and the encounter design is terrible because its nearly impossible to dodge past enemies in dungeons so you are just slogging through whatever progress you make. Plus the characters are super underdeveloped even with party chat and the fact that you get both of the late game characters with little to no job experience is downright inexcusable.
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Thats wrong actually, it's insanely good
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