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xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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Drastic Actions posted:

I've known this poo poo for a month or so now and thank god we could finally tell people :)
It's hard to not drop any hints, isn't it? Such good stuff coming.

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PlaneGuy
Mar 28, 2001

g e r m a n
e n g i n e e r i n g

Yam Slacker

benitocereno posted:

I'd think that qualifies, especially for anyone concerned with what Microsoft thinks about developers :). They have been killing it this build.

when ballmer bolted up and down that stage screaming developers developers developers, he meant it.

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009

PlaneGuy posted:

when ballmer bolted up and down that stage screaming developers developers developers, he meant it.

That was my favorite Steve Ballmer moment.

DarkMalfunction
Sep 5, 2014

wookieepelt posted:

That was my favorite Steve Ballmer moment.

It's the "I'm that guy in the furnace from that Saw movie" level of sweating that made it for me

benitocereno
Apr 14, 2005


Doctor Rope

PlaneGuy posted:

when ballmer bolted up and down that stage screaming developers developers developers, he meant it.

It went through my head when I heard the news too. All it took was Balmer not being there anymore!

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009

Drastic Actions posted:

I've known this poo poo for a month or so now and thank god we could finally tell people :)

How the gently caress is that word pronounced? Can someone write "Xamarin" phonetically?

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Mr Funkface posted:

How the gently caress is that word pronounced? Can someone write "Xamarin" phonetically?

Xa-ma-rin or Xam-a-rin

Edward IV
Jan 15, 2006

I think he's probably more confused as how to pronounce the "X" which is uncommon to have as the first letter of a word.

I'm guessing (having not heard it pronounced before) Xamarin would be pronounced zam-a-rin since its predecesor company, Ximian, was pronounced zim-ee-un.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ximian
http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2001011100204NWGN

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Edward IV posted:

I think he's probably more confused as how to pronounce the "X" which is uncommon to have as the first letter of a word.

I'm guessing (having not heard it pronounced before) Xamarin would be pronounced zam-a-rin since its predecesor company, Ximian, was pronounced zim-ee-un.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ximian
http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2001011100204NWGN


Yes, that's right. Misunderstood.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

Thank god, I figured when they bought Xamarin it would be announced at BUILD. Freaking phenomenal move MS, way to make C# relevant in mobile, unfortunately the news was two weeks too late (or two days considering the start date) for me and now I'm in a WPF job instead of holding out for Xamarin.

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009

Edward IV posted:

I think he's probably more confused as how to pronounce the "X" which is uncommon to have as the first letter of a word.

I'm guessing (having not heard it pronounced before) Xamarin would be pronounced zam-a-rin since its predecesor company, Ximian, was pronounced zim-ee-un.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ximian
http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2001011100204NWGN

Needs a re-brand - I'm irrationally hosed off by both words "Xamarin" and "Ximian". Jesus Christ, the letter "z" already exists you fucknuts.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

wookieepelt posted:

That was my favorite Steve Ballmer moment.

My favorite was when he personally convinced me to not work at microsoft

But he was a cool guy actually, and took time out of his day to have lunch with a bunch of interns :shobon:

DarkMalfunction
Sep 5, 2014

The Glumslinger posted:

My favorite was when he personally convinced me to not work at microsoft

But he was a cool guy actually, and took time out of his day to have lunch with a bunch of interns :shobon:

this sounds like a story worth elaborating on

LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

DarkMalfunction posted:

this sounds like a story worth elaborating on

Seconded.

smoke sumthin bitch
Dec 14, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Is there an app that lets you call landlines and mobile numbers for free over the internet? I thought thats what whatsapp did but it only lets you call other whatsapp users.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

Is there an app that lets you call landlines and mobile numbers for free over the internet? I thought thats what whatsapp did but it only lets you call other whatsapp users.

There are several services that allow internet calling to regular numbers, but none that do it for free that I'm aware of. I'm not sure I would trust a free service either, they would need to monetize the service somehow and that would probably involve agreeing to privacy violations.

Factor Mystic
Mar 20, 2006

Baby's First Post-Apocalyptic Fiction
Hangouts does this. Naturally, it's not on Windows Phone.

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009
My 520 Dual Sim WP 10.0.10586.107 refuses to let me move or fresh-install apps onto SD, and I'm getting some really buggy photo storage which, also on SD, sporadically disappear or become unreadable.

Card is a Sandisck Ultra 64GB 10 speed.

Is this a bug with this build on this phone? Obviously I'm for ever low on space on this bastard, what are the least painful steps to debug and get the card running normally?

Also I'm getting prods to install a Fast Ring update for 10.0.14295.1000. I would have installed it already had I had more space but the time gave me opportunity to read up on this new build. Looking like a bit of a disaster.

http://forums.windowscentral.com/windows-10-mobile/418870-2.htm
http://forums.windowscentral.com/windows-10-mobile-insider-preview/417853-9.htm#post3452822

Any goon reports?

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva
I've been running it on my 640 ever since it came out. I had a few issues with performance at first but a reboot fixed everything. Also, I had to copy the apps that were installed on my SDcard back to internal memory before some of them would run.

The only issue I'm having at the moment is that Maps navigation cuts out the first bit of spoken instructions when I'm using my bluetooth headset.

I don't have a lot of apps installed though, and my use pattern is fairly basic.

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

I just got that to finally upgrade this morning (it kept failing and saying I needed more space even with enough free..?). So far seems the same as anything else, just minus all the poo poo I had to uninstall to make enough space on the internal storage.

A bunch of apps had "Move" greyed out to move them, others didn't but then churned for a couple of minutes and said the author didn't allow that?

Whatever.

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

DarkMalfunction posted:

this sounds like a story worth elaborating on

His son was a freshman at my university, so Ballmer had a lunch with the interns from there. He talked about how Bill Gates convinced him to join him at MS, and him having to convince his dad that he strongly believed in what Bill was doing and it was worth leaving business school to join him, and that it was worth passing on a sure and steady job at Ford (or some other big detroit car company). It was a lot of talk about breaking out of the expected role, and doing something interesting that you are passionate about.

Before that, and even afterwards to some extent, I was strongly planning to work at MS fulltime after my internship because it was a good steady job and it would have been easy work in the particular team I was on, but I had zero passion for what I was doing. Instead I turned it down, and went to work in the games industry and ended up with my dream job

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009

Smoke posted:

I've been running it on my 640 ever since it came out.

Are you talking about 10.0.14295.1000?


Partycat posted:

I just got that to finally upgrade this morning (it kept failing and saying I needed more space even with enough free..?). So far seems the same as anything else, just minus all the poo poo I had to uninstall to make enough space on the internal storage.

Which handset?

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva

Mr Funkface posted:

Are you talking about 10.0.14295.1000?

Yeah, I installed it when I got the notification it was available.

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009

Smoke posted:

Yeah, I installed it when I got the notification it was available.

The reason I'd install is to get visual voicemail on my 640 dual sim - any word on that, or are you running single sim?

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva
I'm running single SIM and my provider doesn't even do visual voicemail apparently.

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009
I dropped my 640xl for the fifth time, and this time the screen has a crack running down the middle and every time I plug it in I get a message about how slow my phone is charging. It's probably not going to make it until October, is it?

Mr Funkface
Dec 21, 2009

wookieepelt posted:

I dropped my 640xl for the fifth time, and this time the screen has a crack running down the middle and every time I plug it in I get a message about how slow my phone is charging. It's probably not going to make it until October, is it?

Double trouble - even if it does make it, October isn't looking like a great finish line.

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009

Mr Funkface posted:

Double trouble - even if it does make it, October isn't looking like a great finish line.

Yeah, I saw that. Well, I'm eligible for an upgrade in October. Maybe I'll look for a cheap alternative. Are 1520s still cheap?

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013
Do any apps exist that can replace the old people app functionality? I m iss having all my social crap in one place. :(

DarkMalfunction
Sep 5, 2014

Jesus Christ, someone used the people app?

PlaneGuy
Mar 28, 2001

g e r m a n
e n g i n e e r i n g

Yam Slacker
People app made the phone, man. All my facebook and tweets in one place, bypassing the ads and curation algorithms? Yes, please!

And if you were an old-school WP7 guy who bought into the whole inversion of control concept (you don't open an app to X your friend, you open your friend to X them) like me, people hub was a core example of the windows phone philoso oh god what have they done to this operating system you maniacs you blew it up drat you drat you all to hell

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

PlaneGuy posted:

People app made the phone, man. All my facebook and tweets in one place, bypassing the ads and curation algorithms? Yes, please!

That's why it doesn't exist anymore.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

PlaneGuy posted:

People app made the phone, man. All my facebook and tweets in one place, bypassing the ads and curation algorithms? Yes, please!

And if you were an old-school WP7 guy who bought into the whole inversion of control concept (you don't open an app to X your friend, you open your friend to X them) like me, people hub was a core example of the windows phone philoso oh god what have they done to this operating system you maniacs you blew it up drat you drat you all to hell

This basically. I bought into windows phone because I liked the philosophy behind it, I liked the UI, and I liked the way it presented information to me. Most of all I loved the fusion of iOS ideals - a curated garden free of malware, polished and consistent UI free of third party fuckery and the promise of regular updates - with the Android ideals of greater hardware flexibility.

Then Microsoft completely abandoned its UI philosophy, stopped offering polish and consistency and released a perpetually unfinished OS. At the same time, Apple eased up on hardware, and started offering reasonably sized phones, so I bought an iphone and I haven't looked back.

PlaneGuy
Mar 28, 2001

g e r m a n
e n g i n e e r i n g

Yam Slacker

Drastic Actions posted:

That's why it doesn't exist anymore.

Yeah I know :( but I wouldn't mind having it all in one feed still even if I get the ads and curation, I think. I mean, it's better than multiple apps with ads and curation, right? but then they'd complain about "branding" or whatever horseshit hate-on about twitter not being light blue then you're looking at your timeline or some poo poo like that

katkillad2
Aug 30, 2004

Awake and unreal, off to nowhere
I got my Lumia 650 and I'm having a weird issue with the Groove store and don't know if this is a phone specific issue but figured I would ask. When I download music, it doesn't seem to continue to download when my phone goes to sleep 20 seconds later or whatever, I have to constantly keep it on. I checked for an option in my settings and the store settings to download while the screen isn't active but didn't see anything. Am I missing something or is this some bullshit store restriction to passively keep people from just mass downloading things? Going to be rough getting my 20k song collection back I lost from Zune if that's the case.

When I went to buy the Groove subscription I went with the year sub to save some money...and then they charged me 3 times. After 30 minutes or so with support I think I got it situated, but now it says I still have a music pass even though it appears all the charges were refunded... so I might have accidentally got a year pass for free.

Other than that, the phone is great so far.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

PlaneGuy posted:

People app made the phone, man. All my facebook and tweets in one place, bypassing the ads and curation algorithms? Yes, please!

And if you were an old-school WP7 guy who bought into the whole inversion of control concept (you don't open an app to X your friend, you open your friend to X them) like me, people hub was a core example of the windows phone philoso oh god what have they done to this operating system you maniacs you blew it up drat you drat you all to hell

This. I can live with the adds and the curation, just let me put everything in one feed.

Kia Soul Enthusias
May 9, 2004

zoom-zoom
Toilet Rascal

wookieepelt posted:

Yeah, I saw that. Well, I'm eligible for an upgrade in October. Maybe I'll look for a cheap alternative. Are 1520s still cheap?

How goes the search for 1520s? My 1020's battery life is pretty random & I don't want to spend a lot of money on a new phone until WM10 is a bit more umm...polished? If that ever happens, that is. I see them on eBay for about $150 but don't know how the quality is.

Edit it: gently caress it, may as well spend $50 extra and buy a new 650 for that price.
Does the 950 ever go on sale?

Kia Soul Enthusias fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Apr 9, 2016

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009

CharlesM posted:

How goes the search for 1520s? My 1020's battery life is pretty random & I don't want to spend a lot of money on a new phone until WM10 is a bit more umm...polished? If that ever happens, that is. I see them on eBay for about $150 but don't know how the quality is.

Edit it: gently caress it, may as well spend $50 extra and buy a new 650 for that price.
Does the 950 ever go on sale?

I am in the same boat. I don't want to throw $150 unless I know the quality. I'm also looking at the 950 xl and hoping for a sale.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


The current Insider build on my 640 is running like absolute trash. Awful Reader isn't even loading, everything else is crashing frequently and Edge keeps reloading pages (even lightweight ones like news articles), usually before crashing. App resuming is almost non-existent.

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Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

CharlesM posted:

How goes the search for 1520s? My 1020's battery life is pretty random & I don't want to spend a lot of money on a new phone until WM10 is a bit more umm...polished? If that ever happens, that is. I see them on eBay for about $150 but don't know how the quality is.

Edit it: gently caress it, may as well spend $50 extra and buy a new 650 for that price.
Does the 950 ever go on sale?

950s on swappa are not too crazy, depending on whether or not you need unlocked or not.

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