drunken officeparty posted:

Is it going to throw me immediately into ng+ like ds1 or can I finish the base game then go give up on the dlc like 2

drunken officeparty posted:

There’s like 6 dang npc’s in firelink that will teach my magic even though I haven’t cast a single spell in all 3 games, and the one guy that sold good arrows just disappeared and never came back.

VictualSquid posted:

Havel gets tougher every game. The true hero. And ricard lost his armor and now he cosplays conan.

So, Anor Londo is the same as in ds1. Archdragon peak reminds me of sekiro with those gongs and ninja serpents jumping over your head and especially with the cinematic deathblow.
I suppose lothric castle is a bit like ds2 with those slow but annoying zombie soldiers hiding behind barricades.
Are there areas that are like the ps exclusive games?

drunken officeparty posted:

I didn’t even realize I was close to done already? I just stopped for the night at the boss at the end of the spooky bookshelf ghost arm area. Man this one is a disappointment compared to 1&2

VictualSquid posted:

Havel gets tougher every game. The true hero. And ricard lost his armor and now he cosplays conan.

So, Anor Londo is the same as in ds1. Archdragon peak reminds me of sekiro with those gongs and ninja serpents jumping over your head and especially with the cinematic deathblow.
I suppose lothric castle is a bit like ds2 with those slow but annoying zombie soldiers hiding behind barricades.
Are there areas that are like the ps exclusive games?

SHISHKABOB posted:

Wouldn't it be less of a "tribute" and more of a "the guys who make these games really love doing this aesthetic"?

Nuns with Guns posted:

I don't really know if there's a big area that's a tribute to DS2, outside the obvious DLC spot. I guess the Road of Sacrifices sprawl and split map is fairly reminiscent of 2, and the little mushroom bugs from 2 are in there to help that image.

And Tyler Too! posted:

You can find Laddersmith Gilligan's corpse at the Profaned Captial bonfire.

Nuns with Guns posted:

Of the Profaned Capital path? I mean, the dungeons are the most straightforward copy of an area format over from 3-1, the Prison of Hope, in the whole game besides Anor Londo. The full layout isn't exactly the same, but it's way more of a direct "we're referencing this" than different attempts at the same like idea you get with Blighttown and the Valley of Defilement. There's the roaming jailers with obnoxious magic hazards, fact that you rescue Karla there (a spell tutor witch you rescue from imprisonment just like DeS Yuria, who even has a similar outfit.) Then you get past there to the profaned capital area where the flying stone gargoyles are hanging out along narrow pathways like in 3-2, and then you cap it off with a boss fight and oh it's a gimmick fight with the Storm Ruler and they don't even disguise that at all by changing the names.

This is like, versus what could be a callback but as you say might be "the guys who make these games really love doing this aesthetic" of Lothric Castle, especially around the twin wyverns with all the barricades and the stairway that's sooort of like the walk-up the stairs in 1-4, but also like a lot of other places in the games like Undead Burg.

SHISHKABOB posted:

I feel like a tribute is something made by another person in, you know, "tribute" to someone else. The same company made both of these games. They just like doing it.

Nuns with Guns posted:

Yeah 2 has some smaller nods in 3 like that, the Lucatiel armor, and the Creighton invasion + armor, plus a smattering of boss weapons and shields, etc. It sounded like VictualSquid was asking about full zones that are evocative or referential of the other games though.

codo27 posted:

VictualSquid posted:

I just made it through the painted world and am fighting friede. This is a very cool fight. But I feel a bit morally wrong about fighting her, like with priscilla in the original painted world.

I head that I can still do the dlcs after killing the normal final boss. Should I fight the final boss before I go for the dlc bosses? In ds1 the situation was that artorias was everything cool about gwyn, but better. Which took a lot of impact out of the fight if you did the dlc before your first finished game.

multijoe posted:

Friede is (imo) the hardest boss in the game, once you've grinded your skills up enough to beat her it will take a little of the bite out of the final boss. Did you head over to the Archdragon Peak yet and do the base game's superboss? If you want to have the best boss experience I'd say go final boss > archdragon peak and then the dlc

VictualSquid posted:

This games dlcs are very strange:
I used to think that ds3 has better levels then bosses.
Now I have killed friede and she is in my top 3 from bosses, despite my hatred of team bosses.
And the dreg heap is the most annoying level I have ever played, even though it looks lore-tastic. I hate mob enemies, infinitely re-spawning enemies, poison swampt and enemies you have to run by.