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Eric the Mauve posted:Well the minus is if you leave the company the company can, and just might, remotely factory reset and lock your phone. I'm 99% sure that it you cannot factory reset via a work profile with mdm. At least for normal Android, I don't know what Sarnsung does. Baddog posted:Wife's company is rolling out an ESPP, on a biannual schedule. Listening in to this HR guy try to run a (re)explainer because the first batch is about to hit, 6 months after initial election. At a certain point, you are obligated to enlighten the meeting with Samba music, so that they can have the "playing a multiplayer game on a public server without admins present" experience.
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Volmarias posted:I'm 99% sure that it you cannot factory reset via a work profile with mdm. At least for normal Android, I don't know what Sarnsung does. https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/kb/how-to-remotely-wipe-a-device-of-all-data-000005310 This applies to the phone, not the profile. Also, you probably can't remove the work profile (depending on how the admin sets up g suite MDM) on your own without factory resetting your phone. Due to a very poorly worded and hastily approved IT policy everyone in my company is going through this right now. At the moment most of us have simply deleted our work account(s) off of our phones. Motronic fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Nov 2, 2023 |
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Mid-Life Crisis posted:I thought the cool new Musk thing was to ban powerpoints. This lets leadership cut off every pitch before the premise is even formed so they can give it not fair shake that’s famously an amazon thing, no powerpoints. at least at some high enough level, can’t speak to all levels
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Motronic posted:https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/kb/how-to-remotely-wipe-a-device-of-all-data-000005310 You're certain it actually wipes the phone, not just the work profile? I'm aware that having a Fully Managed Device that also happens to have a work profile will let you do it, but that's not what I'm talking about (and lol if you're accepting that)
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Volmarias posted:You're certain it actually wipes the phone, not just the work profile? I'm aware that having a Fully Managed Device that also happens to have a work profile will let you do it, but that's not what I'm talking about (and lol if you're accepting that) If you accept the cert/MDM when adding the account or when MDM is applied to the account then yes, we are being told that it controls the device, period. If you do not accept the cert the default is to not allow the device to access the account.
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Motronic posted:If you accept the cert/MDM when adding the account or when MDM is applied to the account then yes, we are being told that it controls the device, period. If you do not accept the cert the default is to not allow the device to access the account. Huh. Ok, guess I'm wrong, though it's pretty surprising to me.
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Volmarias posted:Huh. Ok, guess I'm wrong, though it's pretty surprising to me. It's surprising to me too, considering the implication of the entire concept of "profiles" is to keep things siloed off. But apparently this needs to be OS level access for compliance reasons (forcing software/security updates, etc).
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Sundae you'll appreciate this: a friend works for [mega chemicals conglomerate] and said he's having an argument with a team who want to prioritise their product run of hundreds of thousands, which would compromise a pre-existing planned run of hundreds of millions. Apparently they are just repeating that it is a "priority for this line of business!"
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Sundae you'll appreciate this: a friend works for [mega chemicals conglomerate] and said he's having an argument with a team who want to prioritise their product run of hundreds of thousands, which would compromise a pre-existing planned run of hundreds of millions. My company will routinely give up several 100k worth of line time to gently caress around with samples they'll then give away. And then make the crews work all weekend to make up the lost production.
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pmchem posted:that’s famously an amazon thing, no powerpoints. at least at some high enough level, can’t speak to all levels I wish that applies to their sales, fuckin multiple slides about their paradigms and poo poo.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Sundae you'll appreciate this: a friend works for [mega chemicals conglomerate] and said he's having an argument with a team who want to prioritise their product run of hundreds of thousands, which would compromise a pre-existing planned run of hundreds of millions. I both appreciate that and want to murdeR them. Remarkably, I’ve had only one call so far. I texted back and told him I was on vacation and it was very easy and uneventful. There is still an hour until my flight leaves, though, so *knocks on wood*.
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tactlessbastard posted:My company will routinely give up several 100k worth of line time to gently caress around with samples they'll then give away. That just makes sense. You can't justify bringing crews in on the weekend to give away samples. But with what you described, you get both!
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Business "we are desperate for this new product, all our customers keep demanding it" R&D "please allocate us time on your line to validate the product" Business "but that will cost me money" Alternatively the dog holding a ball cartoon but with "no r&d only new products "
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Sundae posted:I both appreciate that and want to murdeR them. "Attention passengers, this is your captain speaking. Our flight has been diverted because Sundae has a pressing work issue to attend to that cannot wait and no one is competent enough to try to do work without him."
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CancerCakes posted:Business "we are desperate for this new product, all our customers keep demanding it" Sales: We already sold “new product” you need to drop what you are doing to support this new product (they don’t have a PO they went to lunch and the customers said it sounds neat)
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"I have to go to my next meeting." (proceeds to talk for another 10 minutes with no end in sight)
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Notice given, and it feels good. Technically three weeks notice, but with holidays and upcoming PTO, it's only seven work days
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I don't feel like I'm cut out for the corporate world. I'm incredibly gullible and naive and this has burned me on more than one occasion. I don't do well with office politics at all and can't poker face to save my life. I've received advice from multiple coworkers to not share and keep things close to my chest, the recurring theme has been "you're too much of an open book and people will take advantage of that". Coupled with my anxiety of being in the 'spotlight' / presenting, I think I'll just be held back and not advance up the corporate ladder. I'm currently an engineer but I'm thinking of trying to side shuffle into something programming related? My ex was a Computer Science major and her office was awesome, the people seemed great and the environment and freedom seemed lovely (WFH, employee break rooms with fun activities, regular office activities after working hours). My place seems stuck in the 1970s and is just a depressing cubicle hellhole. The only aspect of my current job that I thoroughly enjoy is the nice interactions I have with coworkers, especially when we're working on a project and coming up with a solution as a team. I absolutely love that. However, there are a lot of people that are quite negative and don't like my 'new hire energy' and I'm tired of navigating all their nasty crap. It's taken a huge toll on my mental health. Even though management supports and likes me, I'm more often than not daydreaming of leaving or going somewhere else. But even the thought of changing company but keeping the same role doesn't entice me. So, to anyone in the computer science field, would you recommend the side shuffle? Not to generalize, but most of the people at my ex's office seemed harmless and super nerdy, and I remember the CS students at uni were the same. I feel like I'd be a lot happier in that nerdy kind of environment. But maybe I'm just having grass-is-greener syndrome. I'm just tired of the existential dread and having the constant adrenaline dumps going into the office (mainly from having to give presentations). I'm on about £6500 a month but I'm a shut-in who loves staying at home so I'm really not actively using the money (so the thought of a pay cut doesn't frighten me).
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Qubee posted:I don't feel like I'm cut out for the corporate world. I'm incredibly gullible and naive and this has burned me on more than one occasion. I don't do well with office politics at all and can't poker face to save my life. I've received advice from multiple coworkers to not share and keep things close to my chest, the recurring theme has been "you're too much of an open book and people will take advantage of that". Coupled with my anxiety of being in the 'spotlight' / presenting, I think I'll just be held back and not advance up the corporate ladder. I'm currently an engineer but I'm thinking of trying to side shuffle into something programming related? My ex was a Computer Science major and her office was awesome, the people seemed great and the environment and freedom seemed lovely (WFH, employee break rooms with fun activities, regular office activities after working hours). My place seems stuck in the 1970s and is just a depressing cubicle hellhole. Most of this is company dependent, not entirely profession dependent. Comp sci folks end up in big depressing cubicle warrens too, and also have to deal with office politics. Not many end up in the happy "yay everything is free and we can relax in a beanbag chair in the sun while chatting with each other about the best mimosa place in town", googleplex or wherever.
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Qubee posted:I'm just tired of the existential dread and having the constant adrenaline dumps going into the office (mainly from having to give presentations).
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I agree things are very company dependent but I'd also say software companies have a lot more people like you so the field is more conducive to people who are looking to do their job and help people when needed and not handle the politcs as much. That stuff does help a lot though and you'll absolutely see people rise because of their political skill, but IN GENERAL, I'd say software companies are more easy going. Your first job may not be at one of those places though.
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Lol, the guy I've been complaining about was described as "inflexible and unable to change his approach to anything, particularly new ideas", this is from my manager who spoke to the (senior) other guy on the project who is also, I think, fed up with this poo poo. It's nice to be right.
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Is he being protected by an executive? Why is everyone apparently including his boss putting up with his poo poo?
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Eric the Mauve posted:Is he being protected by an executive? Why is everyone apparently including his boss putting up with his poo poo? I think there has been (and still is) a bunch of shifting around of teams in various divisions and more things like this are coming up, it's gonna be fun.
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I wish there was a subtle way of telling my coworkers "it's not that I'm not picking up your slack because I don't like you, it's because I hate this corp and they have already extracted so much of my life from me that my baseline for interacting with them is 'veiled hostility,' and also, do your own loving reports"
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Baddog posted:Most of this is company dependent, not entirely profession dependent. Comp sci folks end up in big depressing cubicle warrens too, and also have to deal with office politics. Not many end up in the happy "yay everything is free and we can relax in a beanbag chair in the sun while chatting with each other about the best mimosa place in town", googleplex or wherever. Cubical warrens would actually be a step up, it's all Open Office because
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Eight-Six posted:I wish there was a subtle way of telling my coworkers "it's not that I'm not picking up your slack because I don't like you, it's because I hate this corp and they have already extracted so much of my life from me that my baseline for interacting with them is 'veiled hostility,' and also, do your own loving reports" If you find a way, tell me.
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Eric the Mauve posted:and P.S., just to be clear, I don't like you.
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I mean if you have a decent working relationship with them I think it's ok to say "I'm literally only doing the stuff in my job description because I don't want to do any work I'm not paid for".
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Lockback posted:"This would be a good opportunity to learn how to do this" Oh this one's going in my back pocket.
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Lockback posted:"This would be a good opportunity to learn how to do this" This is what the lazy seniors love telling the new hires, it's an ingenious way of pawning off their own work and responsibilities to us under the guise of 'learning'. When we do go and ask them for help or guidance, they tell us to search for the answer ourselves because "our department doesn't encourage spoonfeeding".
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Qubee posted:This is what the lazy seniors love telling the new hires, it's an ingenious way of pawning off their own work and responsibilities to us under the guise of 'learning'. When we do go and ask them for help or guidance, they tell us to search for the answer ourselves because "our department doesn't encourage spoonfeeding". Well yeah the difference between the good and bad leader isn't saying it, it's what they do to help you learn.
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priznat posted:On the other hand it is really annoying when someone comes and asks you stuff without doing any attempt to find the info themselves. Especially when they do it repeatedly after you show them where to find similar information. This depends; I have risen in my superior's eyes by being the only person in the room who can apparently use google and actually read a resulting webpage in depth.
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Discendo Vox posted:This depends; I have risen in my superior's eyes by being the only person in the room who can apparently use google and actually read a resulting webpage in depth. Yeah having a good degree of self direction is surprisingly rare. It’s my main sticking point with coworkers and whether or not I’ll get along with them well or be on the verge of exasperation with them constantly. Always the main thing I try to find out if I am asked to interview people. If anyone asks me how to do basic stuff (in standard stuff like Linux for example) that is easily googleable I will lose all respect for them. The same question has been asked online by millions.
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Lockback posted:Needing help is fine. Expecting people to do your job because you don't want to learn is not. Seriously. I've got a tendency to need to rubber duck things, but sometimes I really am asking for help with something. Maybe I'm just having a brain fart, whatever, but since I'm not asking about every single thing it's fine. Similarly, I've had good coworkers and bad coworkers, and good coworkers still ask dumb questions sometimes. Given how many times I need to learn and relearn some Linux tool that I use for 5 minutes every month, it's not so much to just ask "hey can you look at this command and tell me what I seem to be missing here?" or "is there something that already exists that will just magic this entire script?"
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