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The Vosgian Beast posted:I should figure out a way to make big bucks off of SF doom scenarios. I got really excited when I misread what yousaid as MF Doom
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The Vosgian Beast posted:I should figure out a way to make big bucks off of SF doom scenarios. Then again if you can make half the technological and scientific breakthroughs that XCOM does on the regular you'd pretty much have the number one institution in the world.
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Annointed posted:Then again if you can make half the technological and scientific breakthroughs that XCOM does on the regular you'd pretty much have the number one institution in the world. You don't understand how this scam works, do you
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The Vosgian Beast posted:You don't understand how this scam works, do you I'm assuming Star Citizen logic fake it 'til you most likely definitely not make it  EDIT: Watch the Michael Moore and Sargon "debate", it ends up being a massacre as Sargon is unable to actually label what's "regressive". Annointed has a new favorite as of 17:08 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Mar 2, 2016 17:01
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Lady Naga posted:It's super weird to be in the Dork Enlightenment thread and be like "I had no idea there were nordic hypermasculine bros that want to return to a fascist status quo wherein they are free to stomp on the downtrodden". I had a simplified and stereotyped perception of Notch. I've assumed there are bigoted shitheads all around the world, and I'm aware of the Return of Kings etc., but part of the fun has been thinking they were powerless and marginalized. Whereas Guy Who Made Thing I And Others Liked was probably cool and normal, right?
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DStecks posted:Sits on the greatest personal fortune ever made through video games. That's basically it. I mean, it kinda makes sense considering that Notch is a code monkey who made his name by combining the ideas of two infinitely more talented designers, he has absolutely no design sensibilities of his own, or any apparent artistic inclination whatsoever. He did, but he couldn't figure out how to make it not poo poo so he got depressed and gave up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0x10c Apparently some fans have taken it up instead.
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Doc Hawkins posted:I had a simplified and stereotyped perception of Notch. I've assumed there are bigoted shitheads all around the world, and I'm aware of the Return of Kings etc., but part of the fun has been thinking they were powerless and marginalized. Whereas Guy Who Made Thing I And Others Liked was probably cool and normal, right?
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Cingulate posted:There's a big difference between "has some bigoted opinions he mostly keeps to himself" and "writes a web page that is pretty much by design proving incorrect everyone who doubts rape culture is a thing" IMO. Ah, no. As has been clearly proven throughout this thread, everyone who is wrong is equally wrong. And everyone who disagrees with me agrees with each other.
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Nuance is the new foreplay.
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Jesus gently caress why is Scott so obsessed with Nootropics
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If Notch being a bigot upsets you because kids enjoy his product then I have some uncomfortable truths to tell you about this Walt Disney fellow...
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Lady Naga posted:If Notch being a bigot upsets you because kids enjoy his product then I have some uncomfortable truths to tell you about this Walt Disney fellow... Are you telling me there are secret nazi murals hidden throughout Minecraftland?
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Lady Naga posted:If Notch being a bigot upsets you because kids enjoy his product then I have some uncomfortable truths to tell you about this Walt Disney fellow... I don't let my younger cousins watch racist crows and native americans and sneaky conniving asia- I mean siamese cats.
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Mar 2, 2016 18:27
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Annointed posted:I don't let my younger cousins watch racist crows and native americans and sneaky conniving asia- I mean siamese cats. Not really sure what that has to do with anything?
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Mar 2, 2016 18:30
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Lady Naga posted:Not really sure what that has to do with anything?
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Lady Naga posted:Not really sure what that has to do with anything? They're saying that Walt Disney's racism leaked into some of their movies - Song of the South being the blindingly obvious one. Beware the tarbaby!
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Mar 2, 2016 19:19
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Cingulate posted:Jesus gently caress why is Scott so obsessed with Nootropics
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neonnoodle posted:MORE SMARTER = BETTER THAN 1. Why is Scott personally so concerned with it? Does he consider his own intelligence in dire need of improvement (and if yes, why), or where is he going? 2. Why, of all things, nootropics? Why the faux-biological angle of attack, instead of any of the other overhyped snake oil (with a behavioral, not chemist, taste)? Seemingly applies to all of these people, since he has so many people filling out these questionnaires.
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Nessus posted:Ask him what he thinks of the journalistic ethics warriors. I still can't get over the fact that they are now literally concocting conspiracy theories about the JEWs.  divabot posted:Yudkowsky's memeplex Can we just call them "ideas" again?
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Cingulate posted:That's the answer to the boring question ("what would Scott say himself?"). The interesting questions are: Science says nootropics actually work, if your idea of "science" is the wikipedia page about nootropics and your idea of "works" is "shows a barely there correlation to something that may or may not be related" Like I assume he gets all his information on science things from Wikipedia, and nootropics are probably the most favorably treated smart-making-thing on wikipedia.
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Woolie Wool posted:I still can't get over the fact that they are now literally concocting conspiracy theories about the JEWs.
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Annointed posted:I don't let my younger cousins watch racist crows and native americans and sneaky conniving asia- I mean siamese cats. I got the impression from this sort of cartoon that Siamese cats were awful creatures. I was actually surprised when I met some and discovered they're nicer and friendlier than most cats. Woolie Wool posted:Can we just call them "ideas" again? ehh. It's not just the ideas, it's that they form a nigh-hermetic cluster.
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Memetics is an unproductive pseudoscience that's only still alive because new atheism happened.
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Cingulate posted:That's the answer to the boring question ("what would Scott say himself?"). The interesting questions are:
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Woolie Wool posted:I feel tempted to dig up one of those Orion's Arm worldbuilding articles about how super-AIs can write propaganda that is so supernaturally persuasive that it can instantly convert anyone of a lower If you actually take memetics seriously, the logical position is skeptical quietism, because everything you believe or think, and everything, everyone around you believes or thinks, is ultimately the result of struggles between alien entities working parasitically on the human mind. Nobody goes there, because memetics exists to use lovely biology metaphors in order to pwn faithtards, and has no use aside from that.
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neonnoodle posted:Scott appears to believe in g, so it would make sense that only STEMichals could increase your awesome IQ powers. If it were possible to become smarter through effort/study/NLP, it would challenge some fundamental aspects of his worldview. This is a lovely strawman. http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/02/01/talents-part-2-attitude-vs-altitude/
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Silver2195 posted:This is a lovely strawman. 
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neonnoodle posted:Scott appears to believe in g, so it would make sense that only STEMichals could increase your awesome IQ powers. If it were possible to become smarter through effort/study/NLP, it would challenge some fundamental aspects of his worldview.
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Annointed posted:Not allowing my younger relatives to be exposed to racist caricatures in Disney films? Good for you I guess? Thanks for letting me know. Cingulate posted:It would be much more surprising for a right-wing conspiracy theory to not eventually focus Jews. The thing that bugs me most about GamerGaters and the alt-right in general is this smug, slimy tone they all have. They're literally incapable of treating anything seriously it's all just a big joke. "Oh yeah let's ironically call our opposition JEWs and make up funny terms like freeze peach because otherwise we'd have to actually own up to what we're saying."
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Lady Naga posted:The thing that bugs me most about GamerGaters and the alt-right in general is this smug, slimy tone they all have. Not taking things so seriously always seemed like an admirable quality to me.
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Cingulate posted:Really? With me, it's the hatred and the fascism. I hate you so loving much Cingulate.
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Lady Naga posted:I hate you so loving much Cingulate. 
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You're wrong anyway, sincerity and earnestness are much more admirable qualities than snarky jokey-joke telling, especially when it comes to important things.
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Lady Naga posted:I hate you so loving much Cingulate. Honestly this could go after the thread title
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Lady Naga posted:Good for you I guess? Thanks for letting me know. FYI "freeze peach" isn't a gamergate term. It got a bunch of use of the leftier parts of freethoughblogs back when gamergate was elevatorgate. .
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I honestly CBA to really talk about this even though it falls under my area of expertise much more strongly than e.g. IQ does, but: - nootropics work - ... for very specific things - e.g., short-term memory persistence and attention as measured by very reduced, static cognitive tasks, with very little overlap to real-world knowledge work - if at all, it resembles twitchy computer games, or driving a truck while tired - none of which seem to resemble what Scott most likely wishes he was better at Scott should know this - better than me, too. He's the psychiatrist. He should know that there is, e.g., a trade-off between D1-like and D2-like receptors (Arnsten, Durstewitz, inverted U, blah blah).
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Patrick Spens posted:FYI "freeze peach" isn't a gamergate term. It got a bunch of use of the leftier parts of freethoughblogs back when gamergate was elevatorgate. They co-opted that though along with their own super funny terms like muh soggy knees. Cingulate posted:I honestly CBA to really talk about this You should CBT instead.
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Cingulate posted:Really? With me, it's the hatred and the fascism. Yeah, but they're going to be hateful fascists anyway. The fact that they're joking and ironic about it makes it so much harder to argue against them because it's the ultimate escape hatch. "Can't you take a joke? LOL".
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Woolie Wool posted:I feel tempted to dig up one of those Orion's Arm worldbuilding articles about how super-AIs can write propaganda that is so supernaturally persuasive that it can instantly convert anyone of a lower  Please do! I can't be the only person fascinated with the objectivist fever dream of Orion's Armshttp://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/45eb1db209fe9 "Some very strict ethical systems proscribe all meat eating except for meat which is cloned from the consumer, since that is the only DNA which is certainly the property of the consumer." Property rights! Cannibalize yourself, and face to Privatization.
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