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Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
like it owns when you interview and are asked a question and you get up to whiteboard out an answer, then ask your interviewer to come up and help

like, here's some of my ideas, add yours, then i add back on top

just saying

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qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Sniep posted:

i think if you connect while you interview and can dispose of the formality a bit and just share a conversation it seems best?

out of the hundred or so people i interviewed at my last firm, only one of them had enough personal charm to override some of his technical deficiencies, and that was only after several meetings with the other interviewers because nobody could seem to agree on a final decision. i myself didn't want to hire because honestly he really wasn't good enough. he got hired in the end and then hosed off a month after he started lol.

qhat fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Jul 21, 2017

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast

qhat posted:

out of the hundred or so people i interviewed at my last firm, only one of them had enough personal charm to override some of his technical deficiencies, and that was only after several meetings with the other interviewers because nobody could seem to agree. i didn't want to hire because honestly he really wasn't good enough. he got hired in the end and then hosed off a month after he started lol.

i intended the comment after surpassing the technical reqs

like, just go in deep into them and like, involve your interviewer i guess

this might not work if they aren't like your actual team you're intending to work for doing the interview tho

JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax
seo = scum

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


Sniep posted:

i intended the comment after surpassing the technical reqs

like, just go in deep into them and like, involve your interviewer i guess

this might not work if they aren't like your actual team you're intending to work for doing the interview tho

oh, right. yeah they got to fit the bare minimum tech ability ofc. but i do feel more comfortable about hiring someone who's cool and makes an effort to fit in with the vibe of the interviewers than a robot who sits and shits ones and zeroes out of their rear end.

qhat
Jul 6, 2015



they seem to scrape terabytes of search pages and do machine learning on them, which seems to be less like the random hand-waving associated with mindless speculating on google's algorithms. also an interesting opportunity to work with big data imo.

JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax
i'm sure you'll learn a lot and build up your resume but don't pretend like their "machine learning" is anything other than a marketing justification engine

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


JewKiller 3000 posted:

i'm sure you'll learn a lot and build up your resume but don't pretend like their "machine learning" is anything other than a marketing justification engine

well we shall see! also let's not pretend like i'm doing any of this for anything other than figgies either now or in the future

JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax
program computers, get money, smoke trees

JawnV6
Jul 4, 2004

So hot ...

The Management posted:

I flew 12 hours to Hong Kong, crossed the border to Shenzhen, arrived at the factory at 8am, worked an entire day, then went out for drinks. so I know what it's like.

rapscallions?

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

the best place to go for drinks in shenzhen is called bionic

9-Volt Assault
Jan 27, 2007

Beter twee tetten in de hand dan tien op de vlucht.

ratbert90 posted:

We just had a meeting on a new employee handbook. After the meeting they wanted everybody to sign it immediately "it's just an acknowledgment that you received it!" was their reasoning, which it wasn't. The end of the signature page was "I agree to follow and adhere to everything in this book I received".

I didn't sign because there was a non-compete in it. What I did instead was scratch out all of the non-compete bullshit, go to the CEO, and told him I needed his signature next to it.
We argued for around half an hour or so, and eventually, I said: I won't sign a non-compete unless you give me my raise you squelched on or equity. He signed immediately. No non-compete for me! (Also I don't care if he fires me tomorrow, I have 8 months of savings.)

Are you fired already? :ohdear:

ShadowHawk
Jun 25, 2000

CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER

qhat posted:

they seem to scrape terabytes of search pages and do machine learning on them, which seems to be less like the random hand-waving associated with mindless speculating on google's algorithms. also an interesting opportunity to work with big data imo.
scraping Google results is against Google TOS as much as malicious blackhat SEO is

that whole company sounds like a massive fraud

qhat
Jul 6, 2015


ShadowHawk posted:

scraping Google results is against Google TOS as much as malicious blackhat SEO is

that whole company sounds like a massive fraud

I think I may have to inquire a bit about this if they call me back offering a role. It'd be hilarious if they came back bald faced and said "no it's not allowed by google but we have proxies and so..." and that'd pretty much be the end of the phone call lol.

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

The Management posted:

I flew 12 hours to Hong Kong, crossed the border to Shenzhen, arrived at the factory at 8am, worked an entire day, then went out for drinks. so I know what it's like.

lol

I work from home and only just barely

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

9-Volt Assault posted:

Are you fired already? :ohdear:

No. But I did say I am working from home today. :smug:

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005

Cocoa Crispies posted:

lol

I work from home and only just barely

don't doxx me

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


Raluek posted:

arent non-competes illegal/unenforceable?

illegal no, unenforceable yes

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

they are absolutely enforceable if one of the employers isn't in California

PIZZA.BAT
Nov 12, 2016


:cheers:


i just re-read my contract and it turns out i don't have a non-compete? i was already very happy with my current employer mostly because they have a very strong- almost cocky, 'we aren't worried about you leaving because we know what we're offering you is the best the market has to offer' but drat not even bothering with a non-compete really enforces that. especially with how much training they're dumping into me into a very niche and valuable technology.

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
non-compete and ownership of my made in my free time IP is an absolute dealbreaker for me. remember that story about the guy who worked for apple, made a for profit software in his free time, then apple just yoinked it from him?

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

ip assignment clauses are much more common than very strict noncompetes I'd think?

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

hobbesmaster posted:

ip assignment clauses are much more common than very strict noncompetes I'd think?
i think most places use dhcp for ip assignment

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

FMguru posted:

i think most places use dhcp for ip assignment

boo this man

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

FMguru posted:

i think most places use dhcp for ip assignment

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



FMguru posted:

i think most places use dhcp for ip assignment


H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

hobbesmaster posted:

they are absolutely enforceable if one of the employers isn't in California

is jimmy john's still doing that

Janitor Prime
Jan 22, 2004

PC LOAD LETTER

What da fuck does that mean

Fun Shoe
Hey guys I'm trying to create a job posting and can't come up with the right title for this position. Basically, I need someone who can do the following:
  • Willing to travel to other countries for extended trips, up to a month at a time
  • Collect measurements in the field using custom phones and test software
  • Plan the logistics of getting the necessary equipment into the field
  • Analyze the data and actually interpret it to realize if something is wrong in the field and troubleshoot what the problems are
  • Generate reports from the data to read out to the customers

I think a Field Engineer is the right title, but is there something better than that?

SeXTcube
Jan 1, 2009

Read through the whole thread. Congratulations on your many figgies.

Last year I had an onsite where the interviewer had trouble speaking English and throughout the course of the conversation and white boarding spoke progressively more in Chinese. I am white and made no indication I could understand Chinese. Even before that I had a feeling they never intended to hire me and afterwards when I met with the hiring manager he told me when job hunting it's not about what you know but who you know. I was then escorted out of the building and the receptionist refused to give me any contact information. This was also after having to do some C++ homework problem that was never brought up during the interviews.

The best interview I had, and the one whose offer I accepted, had me interfacing with an internal recruiter then doing a simple coding exercise in Google Docs lol. The onsite consisted of me giving a presentation about myself in front of the whole interview team, saving me from having the same conversation six times, and some simple geometry problems relevant to the job.

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

Janitor Prime posted:

Hey guys I'm trying to create a job posting and can't come up with the right title for this position. Basically, I need someone who can do the following:
  • Willing to travel to other countries for extended trips, up to a month at a time
  • Collect measurements in the field using custom phones and test software
  • Plan the logistics of getting the necessary equipment into the field
  • Analyze the data and actually interpret it to realize if something is wrong in the field and troubleshoot what the problems are
  • Generate reports from the data to read out to the customers

I think a Field Engineer is the right title, but is there something better than that?

sounds like it's pretty much to a letter what my company calls a "support engineer."

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

AnoHito posted:

sounds like it's pretty much to a letter what my company calls a "support engineer."

this an unfortunately oft misused term though

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Janitor Prime posted:

Hey guys I'm trying to create a job posting and can't come up with the right title for this position. Basically, I need someone who can do the following:
  • Willing to travel to other countries for extended trips, up to a month at a time
  • Collect measurements in the field using custom phones and test software
  • Plan the logistics of getting the necessary equipment into the field
  • Analyze the data and actually interpret it to realize if something is wrong in the field and troubleshoot what the problems are
  • Generate reports from the data to read out to the customers

I think a Field Engineer is the right title, but is there something better than that?
Ninja Rockstar Jedi Wizard, duh

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Janitor Prime posted:

Hey guys I'm trying to create a job posting and can't come up with the right title for this position. Basically, I need someone who can do the following:
  • Willing to travel to other countries for extended trips, up to a month at a time
  • Collect measurements in the field using custom phones and test software
  • Plan the logistics of getting the necessary equipment into the field
  • Analyze the data and actually interpret it to realize if something is wrong in the field and troubleshoot what the problems are
  • Generate reports from the data to read out to the customers

I think a Field Engineer is the right title, but is there something better than that?

Field Support Test Guru Wizard Rockstar Engineer

just picture the business card scene from American Psycho but the business cards get progressively larger to accommodate longer and more obnoxious titles

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:
"Let's see Paul Allen's card"

*The sound of a semi backing up gets progressively louder*

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
stealing engineer valor owns

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Janitor Prime posted:

Hey guys I'm trying to create a job posting and can't come up with the right title for this position. Basically, I need someone who can do the following:
  • Willing to travel to other countries for extended trips, up to a month at a time
  • Collect measurements in the field using custom phones and test software
  • Plan the logistics of getting the necessary equipment into the field
  • Analyze the data and actually interpret it to realize if something is wrong in the field and troubleshoot what the problems are
  • Generate reports from the data to read out to the customers

I think a Field Engineer is the right title, but is there something better than that?

Sounds like you need a rogue.

ThePeavstenator
Dec 18, 2012

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

Establish the Buns

:burger::burger::burger::burger::burger:

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

stealing engineer valor owns

*Looks at employee's lanyard*

"Excuse me sir but a real engineer would be using a hip clip for his badge. Do you even know what it means to be ABET accredited?"

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



H.P. Hovercraft posted:

stealing engineer valor owns

lmfao

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

stealing engineer valor owns

abet accredits software engineering now

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FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

ThePeavstenator posted:

*Looks at employee's lanyard*

"Excuse me sir but a real engineer would be using a hip clip for his badge. Do you even know what it means to be ABET accredited?"
flimsy carabiner or gtfo

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