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I budgeted an amount to get my PPL add on in Rotorcraft. By the time I hit 15 hours.I ran out of money. I was BLOWN AWAY by how much those stupid things cost. and to think, it all goes to insurance.
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Jul 14, 2020 04:30
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Animal posted:That’s not a good comparison, and this opens the doors for all sorts of pettiness from companies to stunt pilots chances to find better work. I’m cringing just thinking about how some of my previous sociopath Part 91/135 bosses would use the new rules as a tool for intimidation or revenge, if “disciplinary action” will be part of PRIA records. Maybe, but as long as obviously lovely pilots are allowed to keep sticking around in this career, this is the type of reaction you'll see. We got the 1500 hour rule, we got the ATP-CTP, and now we're going to have this. And probably more down the road.
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Jul 14, 2020 16:30
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Rekinom posted:Maybe, but as long as obviously lovely pilots are allowed to keep sticking around in this career, this is the type of reaction you'll see. I'm just glad Germanwings 9525 happened in Europe. Can you imagine if congress had to be seen doing something about that?
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Jul 14, 2020 16:41
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MrYenko posted:I'm just glad Germanwings 9525 happened in Europe. Can you imagine if congress had to be seen doing something about that? EgyptAir 990 was ignored for some reason. 
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Jul 14, 2020 16:49
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MrYenko posted:I'm just glad Germanwings 9525 happened in Europe. Can you imagine if congress had to be seen doing something about that? That would've been a delightful mess. -(Sully actually says sensible things about mental health.) -Schumer (with families in tow for a photo op): "2500TT, 1500 turbine, and 10 years' flying experience to go to a regional." Then Jim Inhofe flies his own plane to be a part of the presser and lands on a taxiway. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jul 14, 2020 |
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Jul 14, 2020 17:17
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Rekinom posted:Maybe, but as long as obviously lovely pilots are allowed to keep sticking around in this career, this is the type of reaction you'll see. I've been thinking about this in relation to a few situations at my work, and I've reached the conclusion that, while the industry is very much concerned with CRM and human factors inside the cockpit, we don't really apply the same standards to human factors outside the cockpit, and that's leading to problems. Why are lovely pilots allowed to stick around in this career? We know who they are in a lot of cases; anyone working in the industry, I assume, knows there's those one or two guys who cut corners or break rules, or simply aren't very good at flying. We know there's captains who are committing sexual harassment or otherwise abusing their position, and treating their FOs like poo poo. Talking off-the-record with co-workers (pilots and otherwise), it's clear these issues are known, but we don't pay enough attention to the human factors which lead us to give the benefit of the doubt and not file a safety report, or maybe overlook something we think is a mistake but it's being made by someone with a lot more experience than us. One of the things I really enjoy about this career is that your personal improvement as a pilot is basically endless, and while that's something I really appreciate about it, I see a lot of pilots who treat recurrent training, criticism, etc. as a burden rather than an opportunity to improve. That's a hazardous attitude just as surely as any of the ones we talk about in the cockpit itself, and adjusting that culture is going to fix more problems than any amount of record-sharing or experience requirements.
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Jul 14, 2020 17:21
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DL's 737-700s and some A320s and 767-300ERs will join the MD-88, MD-90, and 777 in the desert by the end of the year. https://news.delta.com/delta-air-lines-announces-june-quarter-financial-results-and-update-covid-19-response-actions
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Jul 14, 2020 17:26
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CBJSprague24 posted:DL's 737-700s and some A320s and 767-300ERs will join the MD-88, MD-90, and 777 in the desert by the end of the year. How old are Delta's 777s? I know they were a launch customer but I thought they were buying them for a while and some of them weren't that old. Or was "not that old" just by delta standards?
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Jul 14, 2020 17:35
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hobbesmaster posted:How old are Delta's 777s? I know they were a launch customer but I thought they were buying them for a while and some of them weren't that old. Or was "not that old" just by delta standards? The ERs were delivered around 2000, but the LRs came in around 2010.
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Jul 14, 2020 18:18
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I just don’t want potential employers to see on PRIA that I was disciplined for using the same Cheeto stained uniform shirt too many times is that too much to ask
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Jul 14, 2020 20:14
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CBJSprague24 posted:The ERs were delivered around 2000, but the LRs came in around 2010. They had just redone the interiors too but it’s a sunk cost now. International recovery is a long way off especially with the US being a Covid pariah state right now.
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Jul 14, 2020 20:26
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I'm guessing airbus wants to keep delivering their A350s too and might as well standardize on all Airbus for long haul?
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Jul 14, 2020 20:32
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The first 8 777-200ERs were delivered in 1999, with a 9th in March 2002. The 10 LRs were February 2008-March 2010. The 73Gs are fairly young, too, all being July 2008-October 2009 deliveries. https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Delta-Air-Lines hobbesmaster posted:I'm guessing airbus wants to keep delivering their A350s too and might as well standardize on all Airbus for long haul? They were supposed to take delivery of a couple ex-LATAM A350s as part of their JV, weren't they?
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Jul 14, 2020 21:03
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I think they still have to take 4 of them. Idk what happens to the rest of LATAMs 350s with the bankruptcy. The entire MD-88, MD-90, 777 and 737-700 fleets, and portions of the 767-300ER and A320 fleets are all being retired. Flying is going to get a lot more boring as a passenger with all these flight types getting parked.
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Jul 14, 2020 21:24
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 I'm absolutely suffering here...I want to go back to my window less office and 14 hours days.
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Jul 15, 2020 00:48
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Are you taking lessons in a loving Bell 47?
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Jul 15, 2020 01:34
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Yes. The school has 5 of them.
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Jul 15, 2020 02:33
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MrYenko posted:Are you taking lessons in a loving Bell 47? You didn’t see the cockpit shot he posted? The only helicopter in which you have to worry about bird strikes from behind, as my instructor put it.
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Jul 15, 2020 03:07
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Where in the great north is that? Looks like a really pretty place to fly.
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Jul 15, 2020 03:15
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ImplicitAssembler posted:Yes. The school has 5 of them. Here4DaGangBang posted:You didn’t see the cockpit shot he posted? I did, but i didn’t look close enough to realize it. For the record, my incredulity is based on a deep, deep, almost abyssal jealousy.
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Jul 15, 2020 04:26
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Rolo posted:Where in the great north is that? Looks like a really pretty place to fly. Looks vaguely like Abbotsford, I think?
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Jul 15, 2020 05:05
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I'm flying with Chinook Helicopters in Abbotsford (CYXX). 5 minutes from the mountains (10 in the 47  )https://www.chinookhelicopters.com/ They got Bell47s, R44s and Bell206s. (and apparently, a 505, which I haven't seen yet). Things are still a bit covid-restricted, so they're trying to minimze movement around the facility. Current plan is to do most of the training on the 47s and then get an endorsement on the 206. (You need 10 hours for an type endorsement here in Canadaland). It's a full time course, so flying every day. Helicopters feels like magic. That initial pick-up and translation simply doesn't feel real. With planes, you get the angry acceleration that tells you that things are about to happen, helicopters simply just starts floating.
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Jul 15, 2020 05:16
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Hey guys, I've low-key wanted to learn flying for some time now but haven't had the time/money to start it yet. My friend though recently got the PPL and has 80 or so hours, IIRC. At what point would you consider going for a flight with a new pilot (assuming you weren't the instructor)? I know he takes it very seriously and all but I'm a bit apprehensive, though maybe in 2020 it doesn't really matter.
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Jul 15, 2020 17:49
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I was the first person my friend took flying when he got his license, a couple of days after the checkride, and I intend to do the same in exchange when I finish mine. By definition the person with a private pilot certificate has been certified to carry passengers. You can theoretically get a license when you're 17 with exactly 40 hours of flight time. You just need to decide whether you trust your friend. (Note that you can't log any time flying with him as instruction, in case that was the idea -- he is allowed to let you take the controls, but he remains the pilot-in-command the entire time)
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Jul 15, 2020 17:57
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Most of my flying friends, I’m more apprehensive about the drive to the airport than I am about flying with them.
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Jul 15, 2020 18:03
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Sagebrush posted:I was the first person my friend took flying when he got his license, a couple of days after the checkride, and I intend to do the same in exchange when I finish mine. I know the certificate means they passed all the requirements but still... how many people have a driver/diving/pilot license and do stupid poo poo. Like this guy https://s3.amazonaws.com/mobby_6kl/SA/plane.mp4 MrYenko posted:Most of my flying friends, I’m more apprehensive about the drive to the airport than I am about flying with them.  From what I've seen GA is like motorcycle-level in terms of safety, and I never rode one for that reason. But yeah I suppose by the time we actually get a chance to fly somewhere worthwhile, I'd probably be fine with it.
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Jul 15, 2020 19:02
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mobby_6kl posted:Well maybe if your friends are experienced pilots and you drive like I do I did the math once and yes, GA is broadly similar to motorcycling in terms of fatality rate per hour, at about 1-1.5 fatalities per 100,000 hours of operation. That means if you go up for 2 hours with your friend, or spend 2 hours on the back of a motorcycle, you have a 0.0002% chance of dying. On the other hand, you have a roughly 0.01% chance of dying in a car accident in any given year, and nearly a 1% lifetime chance of that being how you die. The relative risk of flying is higher but the absolute risk is still miniscule. You'd have to fly about 100 hours a year (in a GA airplane; the risk with commercial flights is effectively zero) just to match the chances of dying in a car accident from your normal behavior. e: if your friend likes do to what looks like a 60+ degree banked turn at 100AGL, as in that video, you should not fly with him Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jul 15, 2020 |
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Jul 15, 2020 19:23
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The quality of a private pilot depends a lot on the kind of person your friend is. The safety of GA goes up quite a bit when you take pilot error out of the equation (yes I know that's pretty disingenuous) and look solely at mechanical failures. How many Jerrys are out there that haven't been as lucky is what I'm getting at more or less.
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Jul 15, 2020 19:35
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mobby_6kl posted:Hey guys, I've low-key wanted to learn flying for some time now but haven't had the time/money to start it yet. My friend though recently got the PPL and has 80 or so hours, IIRC. At what point would you consider going for a flight with a new pilot (assuming you weren't the instructor)? I know he takes it very seriously and all but I'm a bit apprehensive, though maybe in 2020 it doesn't really matter. I would not be apprehensive flying with a new GA pilot. It's once a (bad) pilot starts to get comfortable enough to push their limits that things get dangerous. If your friend is the type of person to do donuts in parking lots, burnouts at traffic lights, and says "hold my beer" a lot, yeah maybe let them enjoy the skies on their own. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry.
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Jul 15, 2020 19:37
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Hey dudes. What's your experience been with tablets in the plane? Plates, moving map, navaid info etc. Touchscreen usability, UI, convenience etc. I'm all for not carrying and updating a stack of papers pubs, but I've found the situation subpar. Foreflight just refused to show me approach plates until I connected with WiFi and verified my login. That is right the gently caress out. Actually, I think any system that uses a complex operating system that works non deterministically is right the gently caress out. Verifying you've paid, unimportant notifications, cluttered, stateful UI are inappropriate for the cockpit. Passcodes to unlock are also inappropriate I'm also not a fan of touchscreen, esp with gloves. Thoughts on a dedicated approach plate tablet? No OS, just runs the code to pull up and update plates. Maybe a few extras like a navaid ref. Physical buttons, including ones that go directly to your plate of choice. No extra code running, and no possibility of unexpected behavior. Thoughts?
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Jul 15, 2020 20:09
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Dominoes posted:Hey dudes. What's your experience been with tablets in the plane? Plates, moving map, navaid info etc. Touchscreen usability, UI, convenience etc. I'm all for not carrying and updating a stack of papers pubs, but I've found the situation subpar. Foreflight just refused to show me approach plates until I connected with WiFi and verified my login. That is right the gently caress out. I've had no negative experiences with foreflight. If you're trying to use a tablet with gloves, get some fingerless gloves (I use Wiley X). The tablet you suggest sounds way harder than just carrying paper plates. You're going to spend more time side loading a bunch of pubs on there than you will on anything else. You need to preflight your iPad. Get it out the night/day before the flight and make sure its working. The only error foreflight has given me was when I didn't download updated plates-- it told me they weren't up to date and then didn't georeference but it stilled displayed the chart itself. For reference, I carry my iPad + sentry, iPhone (w/ foreflight), a back up usb battery, AND a back up paper plate.
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Jul 15, 2020 20:21
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My experience with Foreflight on an ipad mini 4 has been great. Never had any issues with it not pulling up charts as you described. Once you’ve logged into the app and downloaded all the plates I’ve never needed it to be on wifi for any reason while using it. 2nding preflight your ipad. Enter and pack the flight on foreflight and it should grab all the relevant updated plates, weather, notams, etc. Do it when you generate the briefing, easy. The only real problem I’ve had is leaving it in sunlight too long and it overheating... good thing I have my phone for backup
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Jul 15, 2020 20:33
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No personal experience with tablets, obviously, but my buddy said they're pretty commonly used nowadays (and I think even commercial guys use them) without any issues.Sagebrush posted:I did the math once and yes, GA is broadly similar to motorcycling in terms of fatality rate per hour, at about 1-1.5 fatalities per 100,000 hours of operation. That means if you go up for 2 hours with your friend, or spend 2 hours on the back of a motorcycle, you have a 0.0002% chance of dying. Thankfully my friend was the one pointing how what an idiot that guy was (he's the one in the cap, we were at a small local airport). e.pilot posted:The quality of a private pilot depends a lot on the kind of person your friend is. Mao Zedong Thot posted:I would not be apprehensive flying with a new GA pilot. It's once a (bad) pilot starts to get comfortable enough to push their limits that things get dangerous. 
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Jul 15, 2020 20:37
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I use an iPad with JeppFD and FLTPlanGo. We also have Proline 21 with NEXRAD and CPDLC so *fart*
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Jul 15, 2020 20:47
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mobby_6kl posted:I'm not too freaked out about safety in general, I think it was more about new pilots in general. If he just got his license, he has spent the last couple of months drilling emergency procedures and making sure that all of his maneuvers are executed as perfectly as possible. Obviously inexperience can be a problem but so can complacency and ego. I think anyone in this thread would rather fly with a high school student the day after their checkride than Jerry under any circumstance. e: re tablets I use Garmin Pilot and I actually really like the interface but the two parts that bum me out are that it doesn't have a satellite view option, and that it can only sync traffic from Garmin transponders 
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Jul 15, 2020 21:38
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I use an iPad with JeppFD, and it's a hell of a lot easier than paper charts, especially for short IFR flights. It takes me maybe two minutes to load the flight into the app before departure (selecting all of the relevant taxi, departure, arrival and approach charts), and once that's done, a last minute change to an arrival or approach takes maybe 15 seconds on the iPad.
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Jul 15, 2020 21:48
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I just ask approach for the localizer frequency.
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Jul 15, 2020 22:01
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Thanks for the wisdom on tablets. I guess after some thought on the subject, my primary objection is that a general-purpose tablet, running a general purpose OS, doesn't seem like the right approach for aviation. Whenever I have to take my gloves off to enter the passcode we can't remove, it feels wrong. Whenever I have to go into the system settings, and search through small-text submenus to enable WIFI, or change the brightness since the last flight was at night, it feels wrong - especially in the jet. What have you been using the tablet for specifically? Eg, Bob - what pubs do you side load? For example, I mainly use the iPad for approach plates, but use paper pubs for checklists, inflight guide etc since it's easier to flip through the paper than flip through apps and directories on a touch screen, esp with gloves. Dominoes fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jul 15, 2020 |
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Jul 15, 2020 22:39
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Dominoes posted:Hey dudes. What's your experience been with tablets in the plane? Plates, moving map, navaid info etc. Touchscreen usability, UI, convenience etc. I'm all for not carrying and updating a stack of papers pubs, but I've found the situation subpar. Foreflight just refused to show me approach plates until I connected with WiFi and verified my login. That is right the gently caress out. Anything that's not Garmin Pilot, Foreflight, or Jeppesen Flight Deck on an iPad is going to be a bad experience. Foreflight won't do what you're describing without warning, you need to keep your apps, charts, and pubs up to date, this reeks of user error. Dominoes posted:Thanks for the wisdom on tablets. I guess after some thought on the subject, my primary objection is that a general-purpose tablet, running a general purpose OS, doesn't seem like the right approach for aviation. Whenever I have to take my gloves off to enter the passcode we can't remove, it feels wrong. Whenever I have to go into the system settings, and search through small-text submenus to enable WIFI, or change the brightness since the last flight was at night, it feels wrong - especially in the jet. Almost literally every airline in the world and the US military use iPads to great success, you have no idea what you're talking about. That general purpose OS goes through VASTLY more testing and quality control than some niche aviation tablet would ever get. You can get to the wifi menu on an iPad in literally one button push and two taps. You can swipe down from the top right corner to adjust the brightness and never even leave the app. Side loading apps for charts. 
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Jul 15, 2020 22:46
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