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Amphigory posted:How much money is that guy spending on Patroen if he can't remember everyone that he's supporting like I want to believe this because the alternative is way, way worse
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Something like Patreon is such a good candidate for a public service. The actual logistics of it is pretty simple all things considered, the most difficult parts are profit optimization and dealing with competition, and neither of those would be relevant if it was nationalised. This goes double for Facebook and Twitter. If you remove all the add crap, you basically need two developers and some moderators. And it'll be better than it ever was
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Aug 3, 2023 15:35
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFJsFdgMkYE Now the guy's got a bed at the hospital. Any problems, he goes to the doctor. Trouble with arthritis? He can go to the doctor. Trouble with the cholesterol, blood pressure, diabetes, he can call the doctor. But now the guy's gotta come up with the doctor's money every week, no matter what. Savings account drained? gently caress you, pay me. Oh, your insurance ran out? gently caress you, pay me. Got fired, huh? gently caress you, pay me.
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Professor Shark posted:It’s crazy how “Provide good and dependable service” is always a tertiary goal and the. a thousand articles come out about why x company is dying I refuglarly find myself in meetings with our CEO and president. those two 100% believe everything they are doing is to help our customers. it’s absurd the amount of their own farts they huff. they are both insanely charismatic nice people. but to believe they are trying to help people rather than be worth 6 billion dollars they deserve the 
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nexous posted:I refuglarly find myself in meetings with our CEO and president. those two 100% believe everything they are doing is to help our customers. it’s absurd the amount of their own farts they huff. I work in biopharma and the director levels love to talk about how proud we should be that we are helping save lives by assisting in the development of fancy new drugs and then in the same meeting suggest that we not tell a customer our shelf life was extended so that they have to throw away good materials and rebuy them.
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Salvor_Hardin posted:I work in biopharma and the director levels love to talk about how proud we should be that we are helping save lives by assisting in the development of fancy new drugs and then in the same meeting suggest that we not tell a customer our shelf life was extended so that they have to throw away good materials and rebuy them. I also work in biopharma, and while I'm technically at the (associate) director level I don't do any of that poo poo. My job is occasionally unmuting on calls and saying "yeah that sounds good, no objections from me". Luckily I don't think I will ever be promoted to a level where I have to be proactively evil.
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Aug 3, 2023 18:00
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Paladinus posted:I'm not sure that many people really 'run themselves ragged for beer money' on Twitch. A lot of streams with close to no viewers are just some dudes who play CoD while high, but also stream it once a year without face cam or mic for some reason. There are also plenty of people who treat it as a hobby with no desire to make it a full-time job. Some people definitely quit their jobs, took out loans to buy streaming PCs, gaming chairs, premiums, ads, etc. in hopes to become the next Ninja, but there aren't that many of them (you would need to filter for streamers who are online at least somewhat regularly). I know someone who is a full time streamer. He does 9-5 on weekdays, then works another hour or two afterwards on merch and community stuff. And the whole time he has to out on this intensely positive and happy personality which is super draining. Last I heard he had about 100 consistent viewers at a time, and earned about $1000 a month. Which is semi viable here in the global south, but definitely takes a type of person and intense consistency and hard work that requires privilege to maintain.
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Aug 3, 2023 18:07
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Failed Imagineer posted:I also work in biopharma, and while I'm technically at the (associate) director level I don't do any of that poo poo. My job is occasionally unmuting on calls and saying "yeah that sounds good, no objections from me". You sound like my boss who is one of the (mostly) good ones. Our weekly 1-on-1's have devolved into therapy sessions for him where he dishes to me about all the bullshit the rest of the division is up to.
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Votskomit posted:I know someone who is a full time streamer. He does 9-5 on weekdays, then works another hour or two afterwards on merch and community stuff. And the whole time he has to out on this intensely positive and happy personality which is super draining. Being a streamer can get ridiculous. In the span of 10 seconds you might have to respond to a donation with egregiously happy messaging like "Hey %streamer, just wanted to let you know I just proposed to my now fiancee who I met in your chat, thank you so much for creating this great community i love you" and "Hey %streamer, just letting you know that you being online has frequently been the only thing keeping me alive. my dog died, my dad died, my mom has cancer, I have no arms, but you being online gives me so much to look forward to" it's loving insane. Streamers get hit with it so often they're stuck just going "Wow thanks for sharing that" to the first one and going "Hey I'm sorry you're going through with that, I hope things turn out okay" to the second and then they go back to their video game
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lol at exactly one of the four "BRAND" being left alone it's not wrong though
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DACK FAYDEN posted:lol at exactly one of the four "BRAND" being left alone What do you mean by left alone it looks like theyre making ufn of all of them to me Slotducks posted:Being a streamer can get ridiculous. In the span of 10 seconds you might have to respond to a donation with egregiously happy messaging like "Hey %streamer, just wanted to let you know I just proposed to my now fiancee who I met in your chat, thank you so much for creating this great community i love you" and "Hey %streamer, just letting you know that you being online has frequently been the only thing keeping me alive. my dog died, my dad died, my mom has cancer, I have no arms, but you being online gives me so much to look forward to" It's sad all around.
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Milo and POTUS posted:What do you mean by left alone it looks like theyre making ufn of all of them to me they mean it wasn't edited to be something else
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Coolness Averted posted:they mean it wasn't edited to be something else Oh lmao. Good catch, I saw it yesterday but forgot most the context
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Paladinus posted:Platforms like OnlyFans might be a better example, as I doubt many people uploaded adult content there for a lark. I can't find the news article, but only something like 2% of creators can make a living on OnlyFans. I mean this tracks for Arts and Entertainment in general. 95% of SAG-AFTRA union members make less than $21k / year, and these are the ones who "made it" in film and radio
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Aug 3, 2023 23:37
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Votskomit posted:I know someone who is a full time streamer. He does 9-5 on weekdays, then works another hour or two afterwards on merch and community stuff. And the whole time he has to out on this intensely positive and happy personality which is super draining. I know a couple of full-time streamers with decent audiences, they both have rich parents and no other day job. No hate for them, they're definitely more productive than a lot of failchildren, and genuinely passionate for what they do. If anything, I'm jealous.
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webcams for christ posted:I mean this tracks for Arts and Entertainment in general. 95% of SAG-AFTRA union members make less than $21k / year, and these are the ones who "made it" in film and radio I've relayed these anecdotes more than a few times, but I know people with established careers in entertainment in -costume and prop design -Voice acting -Writing All for shows, movies, and games where you would see their work and recognize it, so not 'additional voices' or miscellaneous entry stuff or obscure content that technically got produced to pad libraries. People in all 3 categories have had to have multiple side jobs, rely on family and partners, or use gofundme for medical care. Heck I know a few people who dropped out of creative work to do OF because it made them way more money and was less stressful than their mainstream entertainment jobs. Nothing wrong with someone choosing sexwork, but there's something very sick about an industry where someone can't make a living off of sometimes a decade plus of serious experience and skill, especially when it's generating trillions in revenue that ain't trickling down to the people producing it
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Ham Equity posted:I know a couple of full-time streamers with decent audiences, they both have rich parents and no other day job. again, also true of the other successful professionals in Arts & Entertainment sectors
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Coolness Averted posted:there's something very sick about an industry where someone can't make a living off of sometimes a decade plus of serious experience and skill, especially when it's generating trillions in revenue that ain't trickling down to the people producing it I'm a pro musician and can't keep up with how many fabulously talented friends/colleagues are still living with parents, doing gofundme's for healthcare or even transportation, or have dropped out of the industry entirety. it's torture because we all know equally talented friends who got their Big Break and are on Broadway or Disney+ or whatever, so you hold out and tell yourself that it will be you if you can just hang in there. as for myself, I had to learn a new language and move continents to where the arts receive massive public subsidy and are more reliably unionized before I started making a living wage, and we're still massively underpaid relative to the grift and folks at the tippy-top
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It's clear that the big problem is almost all the money is getting hoovered up to the top but I do think there's probably more talented artists than at any point in history and there's enough desperation in the rank in file to depress wages by people who will work for almost anything too. I guess all sort of the same problem, I wonder what it is.
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Aug 4, 2023 00:14
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Everyone clearly just needs to hustlegrind harder and become furry porn artists
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If everybody becomes furry artists nobody will be able to make a living drawing cartoon animal cocks!
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Milo and POTUS posted:If everybody becomes furry artists nobody will be able to make a living drawing cartoon animal cocks! This is true. Google "furry art inflation" to learn more.
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same in academia too. and authors. and there was a whole thing earlier this year about how many people are leaving museum/gallery jobs due to financial stress, despite it being their absolute dream job. almost like the system will turbofuck you if you pick the "wrong" vocation, one that doesn't pay enough tribute to mammon. someone should probably do something.
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Mola Yam posted:same in academia too. and authors. and there was a whole thing earlier this year about how many people are leaving museum/gallery jobs due to financial stress, despite it being their absolute dream job. What if we raised interest rates? Lowered? Raised?
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twirling, twirling towards freedom
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It's not the record breaking heat, it's the tiktoks and deskjobs that are killing modern farmworkers, got it The body can acclimate to heat, but it literally can't do anything to cool off once you reach roughly 90% humidity and temperatures over 95f
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I would like to see the made up reasons they have prepared for how the gently caress "better training materials" are supposed to help
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I thought the National Cotton Council surrendered in April of 1865
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Also like, what is the National Cotton Council's point by even saying that? I mean I know the real reason, it's cuz they think then you'll blame the worker for being lazy and having AIR CONDITIONING or whatever, but it's not even very good at that kinda misdirection cuz they're basically straight up saying "yep modern people literally can't do this work without regular breaks to manage heat" and uhh might not want to admit that to regulatory bodies in charge
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The regulatory bodies in charge don't give a gently caress.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I thought the National Cotton Council surrendered in April of 1865 The south lost the battle but won the war
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cmon it's literally a famous phrase "the north won the war, but the south won the peace"
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Antonymous posted:cmon it's literally a famous phrase Hadn't heard this phrase before, but yeah
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Milo and POTUS posted:It's clear that the big problem is almost all the money is getting hoovered up to the top but I do think there's probably more talented artists than at any point in history and there's enough desperation in the rank in file to depress wages by people who will work for almost anything too. I guess all sort of the same problem, I wonder what it is. The music business is turbofucked, because hobbyist bands will gladly play for beer, because this is just a fun thing, they have team jobs for the bills.
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