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Top City Homo: Oct 15, 2014; Ramrod XTreme

OSSOF WINS!!!!1

please msg me when May is drawn and quartered (politically) like a stuck pig

# ? Jun 21, 2017 08:57

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# ? May 27, 2024 10:29

Baloogan: Dec 5, 2004; Fun Shoe

Vox Nihili posted:

it really is amazing how much good will and momentum winning even a handful of races gives a party. labour is really killing it even if they havent quite brought things home yet, meanwhile the dems here are scraping the bottom of the barrel on all fronts

meanwhile in demsland

e:woops didnt see the last line of your post lol

# ? Jun 21, 2017 09:27

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Aliquid posted:

Are there not enough Red Tories, anti-Brexit financier Tories and Scottish Conservatives to gently caress things up?

The absolute basic minimum level of loyalty expected for being elected for a party is voting for their Queen's Speech if you are elected as one of their MPs. Not turning up on any other day, nobody cares.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 09:51

Byolante: Mar 23, 2008; by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's a shameful contrast comparing Clinton's photo op with Kanye & Kim, to Jezza doing a whole conversation with JME on video.

Compare grime4corbyn to fight song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyTXL1-R1Js

# ? Jun 21, 2017 10:05

MikeCrotch: Nov 5, 2011; I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Party Boat posted:

Backbenchers rebel / abstain on minor things all the time and it's nbd but if any of them torpedoed the fledgling government they'd be annihilating their own political career in the process.

Ken Clarke was mentioned in the D&D thread because he's the most prominent pro Europe tory and is looking to retire soon, but he's a proper grandee - had multiple ministerial roles and is basically guaranteed for a peerage at some point - so I'd be very surprised if he could be convinced to break the party he's spent his life serving.

Especially as there will not be a formal deal with the DUP at that point so people won't be able to rebel based on whatever gay bashing laws the ullllllllstermen want

# ? Jun 21, 2017 10:10

Pener Kropoopkin: Jan 30, 2013

Byolante posted:

Compare grime4corbyn to fight song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyTXL1-R1Js

goddamn

# ? Jun 21, 2017 10:23

UrbicaMortis: Feb 16, 2012; Hmm, how shall I post today?

MikeCrotch posted:

Especially as there will not be a formal deal with the DUP at that point so people won't be able to rebel based on whatever gay bashing laws the ullllllllstermen want

Yeah, it sounds like the DUP concessions are all budgetary things, easing austerity in NI and funding lots of stuff there.

That means no rebellion over social issues but the image of the conservatives inflicting austerity on England while sending money to Ireland is unlikely to please a lot of their backbenchers or voters.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 10:32

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

i can see the tories suddenly giving NI money to spend but nowhere else going down really well

# ? Jun 21, 2017 10:38

Byolante: Mar 23, 2008; by Cyrano4747

Jose posted:

i can see the tories suddenly giving NI money to spend but nowhere else going down really well

I guess May is thinking that she can't possibly lose seats there no matter what she does so a more expansive policy position is safe.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 11:14

UrbicaMortis: Feb 16, 2012; Hmm, how shall I post today?

Byolante posted:

I guess May is thinking that she can't possibly lose seats there no matter what she does so a more expansive policy position is safe.

But the point is that all the places she can lose seats won't like her sending money away from them and to the place she doesn't have seats.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 12:08

Byolante: Mar 23, 2008; by Cyrano4747

UrbicaMortis posted:

But the point is that all the places she can lose seats won't like her sending money away from them and to the place she doesn't have seats.

I was joking about how every time May does something people like her less. There is no chance of her being liked less in norn so it's safe to do things there.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 12:15

Bryter: Nov 6, 2011; but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

She actually can't commit to increasing spending on NI directly without the Barnett formula kicking in. For every £1 extra allocated to NI, tens more have to be spent elsewhere.

You can fudge this by giving money straight to councils or whatever, but it sounds like what the DUP are focused on is getting funding for health and infrastructure, which would trigger Barnett.

https://twitter.com/BBCNormanS/status/877471621992378368

Bryter has issued a correction as of 13:40 on Jun 21, 2017

# ? Jun 21, 2017 13:28

Party Boat: Nov 1, 2007; where did that other dog come from

who is he

Does the Barnett Formula actually bind Treasury to certain spending ratios? I'd thought it was just convention, so if they really wanted to they could drop it at will.

Of course actually doing so would extract its own cost in political capital, which the government currently doesn't have a surplus of.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 13:47

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

Bryter posted:

She actually can't commit to increasing spending on NI directly without the Barnett formula kicking in. For every £1 extra allocated to NI, tens more have to be spent elsewhere.

You can fudge this by giving money straight to councils or whatever, but it sounds like what the DUP are focused on is getting funding for health, which would trigger Barnett.

Devolve health to regional authorities in northern ireland then bing bong very simple

# ? Jun 21, 2017 13:53

Bryter: Nov 6, 2011; but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Party Boat posted:

Does the Barnett Formula actually bind Treasury to certain spending ratios? I'd thought it was just convention, so if they really wanted to they could drop it at will.

Of course actually doing so would extract its own cost in political capital, which the government currently doesn't have a surplus of.

Treasury can technically change it any time they wish afaik, but yeah given the position they're in that doesn't seem too likely right now

Bryter has issued a correction as of 14:09 on Jun 21, 2017

# ? Jun 21, 2017 14:05

babypolis: Nov 4, 2009

jim messina still hasnt tweeted anything since the election lol

# ? Jun 21, 2017 14:49

Gravy Jones: Sep 13, 2003; I am not on your side

bbc posted:

Grenfell Tower fire: Flats acquired for survivors

Survivors of London's Grenfell Tower fire are to be rehomed in a luxury housing development in the heart of Kensington, the government has said. Sixty-eight one, two and three-bedroom flats have been acquired at the Kensington Row development, it added. The apartments are "newly built social housing" in a complex where the price of private homes starts at �1.5m.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40357280

:lol:

at all the people freaking the gently caress out when Jezza dared suggest this. Tories drinking the Corbyn Socialist Kool-Aid.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 14:51

Lastgirl: Sep 7, 1997; Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's a shameful contrast comparing Clinton's photo op with Kanye & Kim, to Jezza doing a whole conversation with JME on video.

boy i'll say

Jezza's a fully fledged member compared to that carpetbagging tourist

Jezza and Jammer spit fire on their last set

# ? Jun 21, 2017 15:02

Top City Homo: Oct 15, 2014; Ramrod XTreme

Baloogan posted:

for a third time then :q:

# ? Jun 21, 2017 15:40

MikeCrotch: Nov 5, 2011; I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

babypolis posted:

jim messina still hasnt tweeted anything since the election lol

Maybe he committed seppuku for being such a shameful failure. There are a lot of dems who should do the honourable thing and follow suit.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 15:51

Digiwizzard: Dec 23, 2003; Pork Pro

Bryter posted:

She actually can't commit to increasing spending on NI directly without the Barnett formula kicking in. For every £1 extra allocated to NI, tens more have to be spent elsewhere.

You can fudge this by giving money straight to councils or whatever, but it sounds like what the DUP are focused on is getting funding for health and infrastructure, which would trigger Barnett.

https://twitter.com/BBCNormanS/status/877471621992378368

the barnett formula has no legal basis and the conservatives will pour a billion post brexit pesos into NI if it stops another GE

# ? Jun 21, 2017 15:51

Party Boat: Nov 1, 2007; where did that other dog come from

who is he

There are 13 Scots and 8 Welsh tory MPs though, so discarding Barnett to appease the 10 DUPers is a risky strategic move.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 15:59

byob historian: Nov 5, 2008; I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

jBrereton posted:

s'right which is why they've already said in advance there won't be a queen's speech next year "because of brexit" which is a truly lolworthy moment of constitutional practice.

british people thinking they have a constitution will never not be funny

# ? Jun 21, 2017 16:05

byob historian: Nov 5, 2008; I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

goddamn

# ? Jun 21, 2017 16:17

byob historian: Nov 5, 2008; I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Lastgirl posted:

boy i'll say

Jezza's a fully fledged member compared to that carpetbagging tourist

Jezza and Jammer spit fire on their last set

so hes not the best boy just the better boy :thunk:

# ? Jun 21, 2017 16:20

jBrereton: May 30, 2013; Grimey Drawer

mrbradlymrmartin posted:

british people thinking they have a constitution will never not be funny

It's good, we have a constantly unfolding "hmm so they got away with that" thing rather than a US style meltdown over the specific technicalities of what the pres can('t) do.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 16:21

bump_fn: Apr 12, 2004; _{two of them}

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/877569368720371716

# ? Jun 21, 2017 19:19

Anta: Mar 5, 2007; What a nice day for a gassing

Gravy Jones posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40357280

at all the people freaking the gently caress out when Jezza dared suggest this. Tories drinking the Corbyn Socialist Kool-Aid.

Not actual luxury flats, just luxury-adjacent:

BBC posted:

Sixty-eight social housing flats in Kensington, London, are to be made available to survivors of the Grenfell Tower fire, the government has said.
The one, two and three-bedroom flats are located in two blocks that stand alongside a large luxury development, where private homes go for up to �8.5m.

Nestled off Kensington High Street, and a short distance from Westfield shopping centre, Kensington Row is the perfect example of London's booming real estate market.
It's �700 a week to rent a one-bedroom flat - for that price you get to live in the same borough as Prince William and Simon Cowell.

Builders are beavering away to finish the new blocks for the incoming residents, whilst placards that surround the site promise you can "find yourself in the clouds" after you move in.

You get a true feel for the development from the flats already completed.
On the hottest day of the year so far, the sun reflects off balconies and glass panels onto the tree-lined street and busy main road. The flats all have the luxury finish you would expect of this area - but of course the social housing blocks won't have the same trimmings.

But Kensington Row complex is just over 1.5 miles from Grenfell Tower.
It includes a 24-hour concierge service and a private cinema, the website of developer St Edward says, but it is thought unlikely the new tenants from Grenfell will have access to such facilities.

# ? Jun 21, 2017 19:21

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

baka kaba posted:

For the full corb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_H7jCLCkb4&t=708s

Or straight to the dunking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_H7jCLCkb4&t=940s

It's a long speech though (he even pretends he's wrapping up when he's not at all), there was a lot of stuff that really needed to be said and he went ahead and made them listen to it