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StrifeHira
Nov 7, 2012

I'll remind you that I have a very large stick.

Neddy Seagoon posted:

I cant remember if this has already been announced yet so; there's an HG Crossbone X1 coming in November.

:neckbeard:

Hopefully this means the X-2 and X-3 aren't far behind.

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TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
gently caress Crossbone...



Look at those loving awesome effect parts coming with Build Burning Gundam! :stare:

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007

Buy both, give the Crossbone fire pirate attacks.

SethSeries
Sep 10, 2013



Azubah posted:

Buy both, give the Crossbone fire pirate attacks.

Buy both, give Miss Sazabi the closest thing to an Inazuma Kick you can make with Gunpla.

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

TaurusOxford posted:

gently caress Crossbone...



Look at those loving awesome effect parts coming with Build Burning Gundam! :stare:

:swoon: So loving glad I've already got this preordered! :swoon:

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.
I have a question about priming. I've seen in a few tutorials that priming is a good way to expose defects in the plastic, but I haven't seen any description on what I should do about those defects. Do I sand them down with high grit sandpaper and then add another coat of primer?

Dj Meow Mix
Jan 27, 2009

corgicorgicorgicorgi
rockin everywhere


TheManSeries posted:

Buy both, give Miss Sazabi the closest thing to an Inazuma Kick you can make with Gunpla.

drat, the thing that will make me actually want the Build Burning. I really hope all 3 main units get MGs at some point, I adore the Powered GM Cardigan.

SethSeries
Sep 10, 2013



Dj Meow Mix posted:

drat, the thing that will make me actually want the Build Burning. I really hope all 3 main units get MGs at some point, I adore the Powered GM Cardigan.

That post was made while lovingly looking at the paint needed to convert my miss Sazabi into gun buster. I also really want MGs.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Dj Meow Mix posted:

drat, the thing that will make me actually want the Build Burning. I really hope all 3 main units get MGs at some point, I adore the Powered GM Cardigan.

They'll undoubtedly get MGs, but they probably won't show up as fast as the Season 1 kits did since Build Burning and GM Cardigan have no "origin" kit like Build Strike does. Lightning Gundam could maybe get away with using the ReZel frame, but all the outer armor is completely different.

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today

peeNamaste posted:

I have a question about priming. I've seen in a few tutorials that priming is a good way to expose defects in the plastic, but I haven't seen any description on what I should do about those defects. Do I sand them down with high grit sandpaper and then add another coat of primer?

The idea behind doing this is to expose unfilled seam lines, minor scratches and surface irregularities which might be hard to see on unpainted plastic. Some modelers seem to do this by spraying full primer coats and sanding them down until any defects are filled, but I find this to be overkill: it costs more, it adds further steps to the messiest and most dangerous part of the build, and every coat of paint you apply to the model is going to fill in and soften surface detail.

I like to take a more as-needed approach, eyeballing any potential trouble spots before painting and applying Gunze Mr. Surfacer 1000 directly from the bottle (usually with a toothpick, nothing fancy) to any sink marks, incomplete seams, etc. I sand these with a fine-grit paper so the surface is smooth, and generally use a sanding stick or something similar on flat surfaces so everything is uniform. This can encompass quite a few individual spots on the model — dozens if you're picky — but doing it this way you will probably only have to make one or two cleanup passes after the initial primer coat and can touch up that coat as needed rather than spraying it all again.

For me, the biggest filling issue in any Gunpla kit is going to be sink marks: these are shallow surface depressions that really love to show up anytime there is a thick molding peg or socket on the other side of the part, and a typical snap-fit kit will have them in abundance all over the model. I alway cringe when I see a nicely painted kit with unfilled sink marks (it happens a lot) and if you're going for any kind of fine gloss finish filling them is absolutely essential.

It's fussy work, kind of messy and a general pain in the rear end, but that describes almost everything in this hobby more advanced than "snap it together and put it on a shelf."

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.

Bimmi posted:

The idea behind doing this is to expose unfilled seam lines, minor scratches and surface irregularities which might be hard to see on unpainted plastic. Some modelers seem to do this by spraying full primer coats and sanding them down until any defects are filled, but I find this to be overkill: it costs more, it adds further steps to the messiest and most dangerous part of the build, and every coat of paint you apply to the model is going to fill in and soften surface detail.

I like to take a more as-needed approach, eyeballing any potential trouble spots before painting and applying Gunze Mr. Surfacer 1000 directly from the bottle (usually with a toothpick, nothing fancy) to any sink marks, incomplete seams, etc. I sand these with a fine-grit paper so the surface is smooth, and generally use a sanding stick or something similar on flat surfaces so everything is uniform. This can encompass quite a few individual spots on the model — dozens if you're picky — but doing it this way you will probably only have to make one or two cleanup passes after the initial primer coat and can touch up that coat as needed rather than spraying it all again.

For me, the biggest filling issue in any Gunpla kit is going to be sink marks: these are shallow surface depressions that really love to show up anytime there is a thick molding peg or socket on the other side of the part, and a typical snap-fit kit will have them in abundance all over the model. I alway cringe when I see a nicely painted kit with unfilled sink marks (it happens a lot) and if you're going for any kind of fine gloss finish filling them is absolutely essential.

It's fussy work, kind of messy and a general pain in the rear end, but that describes almost everything in this hobby more advanced than "snap it together and put it on a shelf."

Okay cool. I was going to pick up some contour putty at the hobby shop today anyway, they have a few Gunze products so maybe they'll have Mr. Surfacer. Thanks!

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan

TaurusOxford posted:

They'll undoubtedly get MGs, but they probably won't show up as fast as the Season 1 kits did since Build Burning and GM Cardigan have no "origin" kit like Build Strike does. Lightning Gundam could maybe get away with using the ReZel frame, but all the outer armor is completely different.

They'd probably all need new molds. The Cardigan could get away with being based on the RGM-79C GM Kai kit, but that Master Grade kit is twelve years old at this point. The Lightning Gundam, which is based on the ReGZ, would have to be built around a mold from 2001.

A ReGZ 2.0 wouldn't be unwelcome either, though. For a minute there I forgot that suit even had a Master Grade.

Or they could just cheap out on us and actually build them around said old molds. The HGUC Quebeley is honest to god 15 years old now and they remolded it for the BF line.

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today
Again, if that's Testors contour putty don't waste your money. It has certain uses but none relevant to Gunpla in my experience.

I don't use putty at all for cleanup, generally speaking. Mr. Surfacer is very thick and can be built up to an extent, and I find it sufficient for the bulk of my needs. For serious surface modification, you'll want to look into some good-quality polyester and epoxy putties (the former is easier to sand and carve, the latter is good where structural strength and hardness is desired) but try to stay away from cheap lacquer-based tube putty like Testors and Squadron, they're obsolete and kind of useless IMO.

Bimmi fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Aug 22, 2014

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.

Bimmi posted:

Again, if that's Testors contour putty don't waste your money. It has certain uses but none relevant to Gunpla in my experience.

I don't use putty at all for cleanup, generally speaking. Mr. Surfacer is very thick and can be built up to an extent, and I find it sufficient for the bulk of my needs. For serious surface modification, you'll want to look into some good-quality polyester and epoxy putties (the former is easier to sand and carve, the latter is good where structural strength and hardness is desired) but try to stay away from cheap lacquer-based tube putty like Testors and Squadron, they're obsolete and kind of useless IMO.

I was going to use Tamiya, but I can't seem to find any information as to whether or not it's lacquer based. Would milliput be a better decision?

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today
Tamiya used to be the best of the tube putties, but I have no idea if they still use the same formula or not. And it's still kind of limited in its uses.

What do you want to do with the putty, exactly? Old-style filler putties hail from an era when even high-end model kits had terrible fit issues, with big gaps and badly misaligned assemblies being commonplace. This isn't really a thing at all with Gunpla, so putty is not really needed in that capacity.

Putty is terrible for filling seams. Chances are it won't actually get into the seam and you'll just wind up sanding it all off. Using a liquid primer like Mr. Surfacer is much easier, less messy, and far more effective for filling small surface defects.

The only time you're going to need putty IMO is when you want to significantly remodel a part, and whether you go for polyester or epoxy in that case depends on what your needs are (Milliput is epoxy, BTW, and dries rock-hard which is not always a good thing.)

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.

Bimmi posted:

Tamiya used to be the best of the tube putties, but I have no idea if they still use the same formula or not. And it's still kind of limited in its uses.

What do you want to do with the putty, exactly? Old-style filler putties hail from an era when even high-end model kits had terrible fit issues, with big gaps and badly misaligned assemblies being commonplace. This isn't really a thing at all with Gunpla, so putty is not really needed in that capacity.

Putty is terrible for filling seams, IMO. Chances are it won't actually get into the seam and you'll just wind up sanding it all off. Using a liquid primer like Mr. Surfacer is much easier, less messy, and far more effective for filling small surface defects.

The only time you're going to need putty IMO is when you want to significantly remodel a part, and whether you go for polyester or epoxy in that case depends on what your needs are (Milliput is epoxy, BTW, and dries rock-hard which is not always a good thing.)

Yeah I wanted it for filling seams. The shoulder on my Zaku has a big seam running down in and it's super noticeable even after sanding. I primed it, but it was spray primer so I guess that doesn't fill very well. I'll get a liquid primer. Thanks bruh. :hfive:

Edit: My local shop has this.

Droyer
Oct 9, 2012

http://gundamguy.blogspot.se/2014/07/hg-1144-g-arukein-new-images-release.html

It seems like the g-arcane is getting two different color schemes.

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today

peeNamaste posted:

Edit: My local shop has this.

Probably similar to Mr. Surfacer, seems like it might be worth a shot.

If the gap is particularly big, try building up several applications over time and let cure before sanding. Also be aware that overuse of plastic cement can leave seams very soft for a long time, meaning you can sand a seam flat only to have it reappear, and reappear again, ad infinitum until all the solvent finally evaporates.

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.

Bimmi posted:

Probably similar to Mr. Surfacer, seems like it might be worth a shot.

If the gap is particularly big, try building up several applications over time and let cure before sanding. Also be aware that overuse of plastic cement can leave seams very soft for a long time, meaning you can sand a seam flat only to have it reappear, and reappear again, ad infinitum until all the solvent finally evaporates.

Thanks for the tip, I'm taking my time on this model so I'll give it plenty of curing time.

Faltion
Jul 4, 2004

I am an anachronism
I love the Tamiya putty. It's pretty thin so it goes on in smaller coats so there's less sanding required.

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan
So, the first Metal Robot Damashii has been announced and it's the Hi Nu Gundam This is actually really disappointing to me, though, because I can't really see any cosmetic differences from the regular release RD Hi-Nu which I already bought like six months ago. Oh well, guess I'll wait and see what comes next.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021

Mecha Gojira posted:

So, the first Metal Robot Damashii has been announced and it's the Hi Nu Gundam This is actually really disappointing to me, though, because I can't really see any cosmetic differences from the regular release RD Hi-Nu which I already bought like six months ago. Oh well, guess I'll wait and see what comes next.

I get the feeling this is less "brand new line" and more "let's take the current RD molds, replace some parts with diecast metal and jack the price up 10-15 dollars". Also, why Hi-Nu Gundam? Between the current RD and the new MG coming out, who is gonna bother with this?

Since we're on the subject, let me show you guys a REAL Chogokin:



Release Date: December
Release Price: 32,400 yen...

Ouch. :(

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

TaurusOxford posted:

Since we're on the subject, let me show you guys a REAL Chogokin:



Release Date: December
Release Price: 32,400 yen...

Ouch. :(
I'm surprised they've actually figured out a way to make a combining mecha with decent articulation. I mean, GGG isn't exactly the most complex of combiners, but still. Speaks well for someday finally getting an affordable Sentai/Megazord toy that can do more than just swing its shoulders. (Not counting the Figuarts 'one-solid-figure' type.)

Mecha Gojira
Jun 23, 2006

Jack Nissan

Poison Mushroom posted:

I'm surprised they've actually figured out a way to make a combining mecha with decent articulation. I mean, GGG isn't exactly the most complex of combiners, but still. Speaks well for someday finally getting an affordable Sentai/Megazord toy that can do more than just swing its shoulders. (Not counting the Figuarts 'one-solid-figure' type.)

Bandai has been making combining mecha with decent articulation and detailing for a while now. They can get away with a lot more than Super Sentai toys, though, because A: they cost an arm and a leg (easily twice as much if not three times the price of a regular Bandai DX toy) and B: they're made for an adult collector audience as opposed to children ages 4-9.

But yeah, I'm of the same opinion, TaurusOxford. The Metal Robot Damashii line does just seem like a way to remold older figures, slap some diecast in them, and jack the price up a little. Kind of a shame, but whatever.

Soul of Chogokin GaoGaiGar has been a long time coming, though, and I do feel like I need that massive sucker in my collection.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
My summer class is finally over, so to celebrate I sat down and finished my GX's paintjob. There's still decals and a topcoat to do, but I figured I'd finally reassemble this thing and have some fun.



Like 25% of the way through the painting I figured the sky gray was too harsh a contrast, but I was too lazy to strip everything and try again. :effort:



Accessories. I had a shot of all of this strapped on at once, but it came out too blurry. If you squint you can see my in-progress Garrod figure.



The original plan was to paint all the foil stickers, but :effort: syndrome set in midway through. Sadly I accidentally put the rifle's scope sticker on the satellite cannon's, so I had to peel it off once.



The shoulder vulcan probably came off the worst of the entire lot because I never got around to fixing its paintjob. The thing barely has any good poses so I don't really care to fix it up either. Speaking of vulcans, if you look closely, you'll see I lost two of the chest ones.



Spent forever trying to get a good leaping slash going, then gave up and just did the generic slash.



Next on the list are Exia RII and DX. My GX can just stay with my 3.0 and Nu vKa in eternal 90% completion.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Anyone in the Chicago area know of shops they'd recommend for Gunpla?

ChaiCalico
May 23, 2008

Hobby City Usa in Schaumburg is the only place i've found so far that has more than a few kits. I haven't looked anywhere in the city proper though. The one in Orland Park has a few but no weapon bags or markers, much less model stuff as a whole.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



TARDISman posted:

Anyone in the Chicago area know of shops they'd recommend for Gunpla?

I've heard these guys have some:

http://www.oakridgehobbies.com/catalogsearch/result/?cat=&q=gundam

never been there myself.

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today
Is Moondog's Comics still around? I used to get kits and magazines there.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Thanks for all the suggestions! I'm probably going to Hobby Town since it's considerably closer to the hotel my family's staying at.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

TaurusOxford posted:

gently caress Crossbone...



Look at those loving awesome effect parts coming with Build Burning Gundam! :stare:

Fuuuck, now I actually kinda want one :shepspends:. There's also a Build Burning Gundam Bust display stand coming in Dengeki Hobby at the end of November.

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.
My hobby shop totes had Mr. Surfacer. It's the best.

Bimmi
Nov 8, 2009


someday
but not today
It really is. And for seam-filling purposes, one bottle will last drat near forever.

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



Stumbled across this thread and got inspired to waste a few hours yesterday snapping together an old HG Verde Buster that I'd had in storage for like 7 years (I moved around a lot).

Today I suddenly have a Build Strike kit in my house. And I'm looking up reviews of RG boxes. Oops.

I've been trolling the internet for tutorials and basically nobody ever mentions the option of painting these guys with an actual brush and acrylics, which is basically all I've got. Is it advisable to spot paint panel detail and eyes and such? Am I better off just snap building, using the stickers and marker lining?

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
I do everything with a paintbrush and some acrylics. They're by far the best tool for small details, though when it comes to eyes it's like a 50/50 on if I even want to bother.

quote:


I mean I used the sticker for the eyes here and you can't even tell from this far away.

Koopa Kid
Aug 21, 2007



I was actually just looking at that while browsing the thread, looks great. Did you prime the whole thing and go over it all with brush or just paint on specific details?

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
I just painted over the white with sky gray to save time. It scratches off really easily right now, but a coat of future and some topcoat makes it a little sturdier.

Doc Quantum
Sep 15, 2011
Blitz had a really great post about brushpainting a while back that's a pretty good primer on the subject. Also, handpainting is best for small details, but boy is it hell on the eyes. Especially when you notice that one tiny speck of paint that's gone a fraction of a millimetre over the boundary and have to fix it.

Also, topcoat is essential because there's always going to be unsightly brushmarks, even if you sand and polish your paint. I tried the aqueous gloss coat from Mr. Hobby(the kind in the blue spray cans), and those have seemed to work well.

On the other hand, I wish I'd realised that I could sand down all the bumps I got when I first used it. I panicked and went a bit too heavy on the spray to try and eliminate them. I ruined those parts and had to start them all over again. Think I've got the procedure down, though.

(Spray down multiple layers, quick passes with the spray can, wait a week or so, then sand those motherfuckers down. Use 2000 grit, then give it a good rub with a soft cloth. Your Gundam will look nice and shiny like in the animes! :v:)

ChaiCalico
May 23, 2008

Geara Zulu Guards Type has some nice little upgrades in construction over older gunpla. Really liked the way Feet/Legs are less of a crapshoot in the dark. The shield to arm attachment I couldn't get to stick on so i think some double sided tape is in order or putty.

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Gihon
Jan 9, 2014

Is there a better place to get Mr. Hobby Topcoat Flat than Amazon? They seem pretty expensive to me.

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